Check out this article on Fangraphs by Dave.

This is not a statement that should be made. Getting Guitrrrez had nothing to directly with losing Jones. We could of had both. Now how do you like this imaginary outfield?

Frankly, I’m kind of indifferent to it. If we’re pontificating: if Endy hadn’t been hurt, our outfield defense would far, far outclass a Gutierrez-Ichiro!-Jones outfield by a rate of 12 runs (Chavez UZR: 8.0 / Jones UZR: -4.8). Jones has so far granted his team +1.7 WAR, whereas Chavez–platooning as he did with Griffey and Balentien’s spot starts (and even a few for Cedeno)–gave the M’s +1.0.

If Jones improves defensively in the next 3-5 years (Guti is 26, Jones is 23, Endy is 31), he MIGHT fit favorably into our outfield.

For what it’s worth, Langerhans career UZR/150 in the outfield is 12.0 (over 418 games total). Guti’s is 20.6, Ichiro’s 10.0, Endy’s is 14.8…

If we can keep all four of those guys and use Langerhans as a bench player (or Endy as a bench player, their WAR values are about a push), we will still have the best defensive outfield in baseball. So Adam Jones…still has time to develop, but considering we’re starting to see some legitimate power numbers out of Guti…

We got fleeced in the Jones trade (damn you, Bavasi). But that doesn’t mean Jones would be better for the ball club were he here now. As a matter of fact, if Jones were here now, do you think Z would have gone out to get Guti and/or Endy?

I’m just going to say it — I’m glad we have Gutierrez over Jones. Gutierrez is the better player.

There, I said it.

Goeff Baker, is that you?

I’m glad we have Gutierrez over Jones. Gutierrez is the better player.

This is not a statement that should be made. Getting Guitrrrez had nothing to directly with losing Jones. We could of had both. Now how do you like this imaginary outfield?

It’s a flipping exhibition game; it should have the same rule as peewee league: Everybody Plays.

at last report, Ellsbury was gaining fast on the third spot

I could live with him more than Hamilton since at least he’s played most of the season, but he wouldn’t be in my top 10 either, and only about 6-7 OF get to go.

Ichiro and Felix are both in for sure. Branyan and Aardsma both really need to go though. Both are more than deserving. I think Aardsma have the second lowest era among AL relievers and lowest number of hits per 9 innings. It looks like Teix or Youklis are going to be voted in. Branyan should really be there over both of them.

I think the only way Branyan goes is if Tex beats Youkilis in the voting, allowing Youkilis to be picked at 3B. As it is, I think Youkilis, Tex, Cabrera and Morneau end up going.

At relief pitcher, I think Aardsma deserves to go, but they only take 4 relievers in most cases (unless there are no worthy starters.. not the case this season). You know Papelbon and Rivera go based on reputation, and I think Andrew Bailey goes since Oakland has to send someone. That leaves Aardsma to fight it out with Jenks, Fuentes for that last spot, and reputation tends to hold a lot of weight with the managers and playes who do the voting.

Both Russell and AA deserve to go, just saying I think at least one of them stays home, and likely both.

I have a question about the awesomeness of Ichiro!. He has yet to go 2 games in a row without getting a hit. He’ll have a 10 game hitting streak broken, but the very next game he gets a hit. Is there a way to find out if this has ever been done over a full season? They’ll probably DQ him for the first 8 games he missed, but it still seems to be an amazing feat.