Comments on: Bedard currently middle of the Type Bs http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: joser http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339757 joser Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:45:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339757 A large part of Washburn's ERA is the <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/a-little-help-from-his-friends" rel="nofollow">responsibility of the outfield</a>, as is true with any flyball pitcher . Chavez got hurt but Langerhans is a reasonable fill-in, and as long as Gutierrez and Ichiro are out there he's fairly safe. A few more balls will find the seats instead of gloves during the hot months, but as long as his walk rate doesn't jump for some reason his ERA should be fairly stable. His BABIP is lower and his strand rate is higher this year than any of his past years with the M's, but they're both in line with some of his years with the Angels, so again that may just be chalked up to defense (and luck). So he might regress in the second half, but there's no certainty of it. Trade him for sure if there's a good deal to be had, but not just because he might get worse. A large part of Washburn’s ERA is the responsibility of the outfield, as is true with any flyball pitcher . Chavez got hurt but Langerhans is a reasonable fill-in, and as long as Gutierrez and Ichiro are out there he’s fairly safe. A few more balls will find the seats instead of gloves during the hot months, but as long as his walk rate doesn’t jump for some reason his ERA should be fairly stable. His BABIP is lower and his strand rate is higher this year than any of his past years with the M’s, but they’re both in line with some of his years with the Angels, so again that may just be chalked up to defense (and luck).

So he might regress in the second half, but there’s no certainty of it. Trade him for sure if there’s a good deal to be had, but not just because he might get worse.

]]> By: Steve T http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339594 Steve T Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:39:19 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339594 Can I point out that the season is only half over? There's no guarantee that Washburn's ERA stays where it is through October. Just through the effects of random chance he could start to suck pickled eggs starting next week, and then what would we get for him? Trade him today. Can I point out that the season is only half over? There’s no guarantee that Washburn’s ERA stays where it is through October. Just through the effects of random chance he could start to suck pickled eggs starting next week, and then what would we get for him?

Trade him today.

]]> By: BLYKMYK44 http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339552 BLYKMYK44 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:07:23 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339552 I'd like to ask more of a question on the procedure. If you trade a player from one League to another could that have an affect on their "Type X" status? Seems odd, that you would lose out from one of the beneifts of a FA leaving your team just because you played in the wrong league. I’d like to ask more of a question on the procedure. If you trade a player from one League to another could that have an affect on their “Type X” status?

Seems odd, that you would lose out from one of the beneifts of a FA leaving your team just because you played in the wrong league.

]]> By: Slippery Elmer http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339545 Slippery Elmer Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:36:44 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339545 <blockquote>I see Vincente Padilla is also a type A. This system makes little sense to me.</blockquote> Judging by his hair, I've always pegged him as type 10W-30.

I see Vincente Padilla is also a type A. This system makes little sense to me.

Judging by his hair, I’ve always pegged him as type 10W-30.

]]> By: don52656 http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339538 don52656 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:41:18 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339538 I see Vincente Padilla is also a type A. This system makes little sense to me. I see Vincente Padilla is also a type A. This system makes little sense to me.

]]> By: scott19 http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339473 scott19 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:16:21 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339473 <blockquote>Why are Ichiro and Carl Crawford type Bs?</blockquote> I guess for the same reason that a future Hall of Famer such as Milton Bradley is considered a "Type A".

Why are Ichiro and Carl Crawford type Bs?

I guess for the same reason that a future Hall of Famer such as Milton Bradley is considered a “Type A”.

]]> By: MsofEnchantment http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339411 MsofEnchantment Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:10:13 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339411 Washburn has an uncanny ability to pitch out of his mind and far surpass his value when he has a little motivation. His value has far outpaced his contract in only these 3 seasons: 2002 - last season at league minimum Value: $11.6MM Contract: $400k 2005 - contract year Value: $8.1MM Contract: $6.5MM 2009 (Projected based on 190 innings) - contract year Value: $16.1MM Contract: $9.9 Does he have impeccable timing, or he is just lucky? I hope the M's don't re-sign a guy who has only been a superb ROI in 25% of his career. Washburn has an uncanny ability to pitch out of his mind and far surpass his value when he has a little motivation. His value has far outpaced his contract in only these 3 seasons:

2002 – last season at league minimum
Value: $11.6MM Contract: $400k

2005 – contract year
Value: $8.1MM Contract: $6.5MM

2009 (Projected based on 190 innings) – contract year
Value: $16.1MM Contract: $9.9

Does he have impeccable timing, or he is just lucky? I hope the M’s don’t re-sign a guy who has only been a superb ROI in 25% of his career.

]]> By: Slurve http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339404 Slurve Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:45:16 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339404 <em>it strikes me a contradictory to say that washburn would kill the M’s in arbitration because of comparables, then note that last year’s comps weren’t that high (what Dave’s last comment seems to imply). What are the comps that would give him $12-15 mil? they look at more than just most recent ERA and K’s, age, and previous performance weigh against Wash. and he could always agree to decline, which other player’s have done.</em> Arbitration does not work that way. it strikes me a contradictory to say that washburn would kill the M’s in arbitration because of comparables, then note that last year’s comps weren’t that high (what Dave’s last comment seems to imply). What are the comps that would give him $12-15 mil? they look at more than just most recent ERA and K’s, age, and previous performance weigh against Wash. and he could always agree to decline, which other player’s have done.

Arbitration does not work that way.

]]> By: Sports on a Schtick http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339403 Sports on a Schtick Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:43:25 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339403 The rankings posted are accumulated from 2008 until now. Basically it provides a picture of free agent compensation if the season ended today. <a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/elias-rankings.html" rel="nofollow">This link</a> will provide further info as well as how the rankings are determined. The rankings posted are accumulated from 2008 until now. Basically it provides a picture of free agent compensation if the season ended today.

This link will provide further info as well as how the rankings are determined.

]]> By: mw3 http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/13/bedard-currently-middle-of-the-type-bs/comment-page-1/#comment-339392 mw3 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:25:28 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=8745#comment-339392 decatur7, that is why the whole system is a complete joke. I noticed the same thing and I couldn't believe it. decatur7, that is why the whole system is a complete joke. I noticed the same thing and I couldn’t believe it.

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