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		<title>By: pgreyy</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/14/lincecum-lincecum-lincecum/comment-page-1/#comment-339695</link>
		<dc:creator>pgreyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan Franklin &gt; American League

Who knew?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan Franklin &gt; American League</p>
<p>Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: jefffrane</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/14/lincecum-lincecum-lincecum/comment-page-1/#comment-339693</link>
		<dc:creator>jefffrane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s Ryan Franklin?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s Ryan Franklin?!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve T</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/14/lincecum-lincecum-lincecum/comment-page-1/#comment-339692</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if we&#039;d taken Manny Ramirez in 1991 instead of Shawn Estes, we&#039;d&#039;ve been better. Or Rafael Palmeiro instead of Mike Campbell in &#039;85. Or Todd Helton in &#039;95 instead of Jose Cruz? Whew. That would have been awesome. Or Jason Varitek in &#039;94 -- oh, wait, we did draft Varitek. But we traded him and Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb, so hey, that worked out great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if we&#8217;d taken Manny Ramirez in 1991 instead of Shawn Estes, we&#8217;d've been better. Or Rafael Palmeiro instead of Mike Campbell in &#8217;85. Or Todd Helton in &#8217;95 instead of Jose Cruz? Whew. That would have been awesome. Or Jason Varitek in &#8217;94 &#8212; oh, wait, we did draft Varitek. But we traded him and Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb, so hey, that worked out great.</p>
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		<title>By: pgreyy</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/14/lincecum-lincecum-lincecum/comment-page-1/#comment-339691</link>
		<dc:creator>pgreyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ichiro &gt; Lincecum

(A bit of a small sample size, I admit.)</description>
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<p>(A bit of a small sample size, I admit.)</p>
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		<title>By: pgreyy</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/07/14/lincecum-lincecum-lincecum/comment-page-1/#comment-339688</link>
		<dc:creator>pgreyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still say that it&#039;s amazing how much Lincecum looks like Mitch Kramer (as played by Wiley Wiggins in &quot;Dazed &amp; Confused&quot;.)

Oh...and how thrilling and bizarre is it to see Ichiro!, King Felix, Wak, Rauuuuuuuuuul, AJ and Ryan Franklin all in the same All-Star game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still say that it&#8217;s amazing how much Lincecum looks like Mitch Kramer (as played by Wiley Wiggins in &#8220;Dazed &amp; Confused&#8221;.)</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and how thrilling and bizarre is it to see Ichiro!, King Felix, Wak, Rauuuuuuuuuul, AJ and Ryan Franklin all in the same All-Star game?</p>
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		<title>By: Marinerz51</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marinerz51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am counting down the days till Lincecum becomes a FA. We should be able to get him at a home town discount. No? Well that is if he doesn&#039;t hold a grudge against us passing him up. Those commercials that they show with Lincecum and his dad, where he is wearing his Mariners hat just make me more and more depressed that we passed on him. Maybe he is still a Mariners fan deep down inside.

There that is my Lincecum rant for the month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am counting down the days till Lincecum becomes a FA. We should be able to get him at a home town discount. No? Well that is if he doesn&#8217;t hold a grudge against us passing him up. Those commercials that they show with Lincecum and his dad, where he is wearing his Mariners hat just make me more and more depressed that we passed on him. Maybe he is still a Mariners fan deep down inside.</p>
<p>There that is my Lincecum rant for the month.</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My entry in the &lt;em&gt;Dave&#039;s Top 5&lt;/em&gt; office pool:

1 Longoria
2 Upton
3 Lincecum
4 Mauer
5 Pujols

Mauer is the wildcard.  Pujols over Hanley because . . . well, just because.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My entry in the <em>Dave&#8217;s Top 5</em> office pool:</p>
<p>1 Longoria<br />
2 Upton<br />
3 Lincecum<br />
4 Mauer<br />
5 Pujols</p>
<p>Mauer is the wildcard.  Pujols over Hanley because . . . well, just because.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-introduction/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;criteria&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Essentially, the idea is to take all the information that goes into encapsulating a playerâ€™s value to an organization - his present skills, his future potential, how long heâ€™s under club control, the expected cost of paying him over that time, and the risks involved with projecting his future performances - and figure out which players currently have the most trade value in baseball. The #1 guy wouldnâ€™t get traded, straight up, for any other player in baseball. The #10 guy is someone who his organization would call untouchable, but if one of the nine guys above him was made available, theyâ€™d rethink that stance. You get the idea.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Also: no fatties. (Per the comment uproar over Kung Fu Panda)
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Does that mean we can have a one-day (rational) Timmay v. Felix discussion?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Could we, in theory?  Yes.  
Will we, in practice?  Unclear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave&#8217;s <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2009-mlb-trade-value-introduction/" rel="nofollow">criteria</a>:</p>
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Essentially, the idea is to take all the information that goes into encapsulating a playerâ€™s value to an organization &#8211; his present skills, his future potential, how long heâ€™s under club control, the expected cost of paying him over that time, and the risks involved with projecting his future performances &#8211; and figure out which players currently have the most trade value in baseball. The #1 guy wouldnâ€™t get traded, straight up, for any other player in baseball. The #10 guy is someone who his organization would call untouchable, but if one of the nine guys above him was made available, theyâ€™d rethink that stance. You get the idea.
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<p>Also: no fatties. (Per the comment uproar over Kung Fu Panda)</p>
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Does that mean we can have a one-day (rational) Timmay v. Felix discussion?
</p></blockquote>
<p>Could we, in theory?  Yes.<br />
Will we, in practice?  Unclear.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Am I right in remembering that the Ms havenâ€™t even faced Lincecum in ST? I am looking forward to the first pitch vs Ichiro.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Lincecum didn&#039;t face the Mariners during Spring Training, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090311&amp;content_id=3968300&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;he did face Team Japan&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Lincecum retired Ichiro Suzuki to lead off the top of the first, but the next hitter, Hiroyuki Nakajima followed with a single to center field. The Giants ace recovered to strike out Norichika Aoki and Atsunori Inaba to end the inning.
...
Ichiro walked to lead off the third inning, and Lincecum struck out the next hitter, Nakajima, for his fifth strikeout of the game. After Ichiro stole second, Lincecum walked Aoki and was replaced by Jesse English.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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Am I right in remembering that the Ms havenâ€™t even faced Lincecum in ST? I am looking forward to the first pitch vs Ichiro.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Lincecum didn&#8217;t face the Mariners during Spring Training, but <a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090311&amp;content_id=3968300&amp;vkey=news_mlb&amp;fext=.jsp&amp;c_id=mlb" rel="nofollow">he did face Team Japan</a>.</p>
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Lincecum retired Ichiro Suzuki to lead off the top of the first, but the next hitter, Hiroyuki Nakajima followed with a single to center field. The Giants ace recovered to strike out Norichika Aoki and Atsunori Inaba to end the inning.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Ichiro walked to lead off the third inning, and Lincecum struck out the next hitter, Nakajima, for his fifth strikeout of the game. After Ichiro stole second, Lincecum walked Aoki and was replaced by Jesse English.
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		<title>By: CCW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CCW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No. Position players are more valuable than pitchers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you&#039;re wrong, as the question had to do with the post-season, where it&#039;s a completely different calculus because of all the days off.  A #1 starter that during the regular season would pitch 20% of his team&#039;s innings could easily pitch 35% of his team&#039;s innings in a 7-game series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No. Position players are more valuable than pitchers.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you&#8217;re wrong, as the question had to do with the post-season, where it&#8217;s a completely different calculus because of all the days off.  A #1 starter that during the regular season would pitch 20% of his team&#8217;s innings could easily pitch 35% of his team&#8217;s innings in a 7-game series.</p>
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