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	<title>Comments on: Shelton gets DFAd</title>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/08/01/shelton-gets-dfad/comment-page-1/#comment-344591</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 18:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Soooooo I donâ€™t get it.
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It&#039;s just the Willie Bloomquist, 25th-man-on-the-roster argument.  Yes, if you&#039;re trying to eke every fractional win out of the roster, it matters.  If you&#039;re no longer in contention, it doesn&#039;t.  There are still reasons to keep him up for the purposes of planning for 2010, but those fall into a bin with whole lot of other off-field considerations that we&#039;re not privy to, so I just have to defer to the decisions made by the people who are.</description>
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Soooooo I donâ€™t get it.
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<p>It&#8217;s just the Willie Bloomquist, 25th-man-on-the-roster argument.  Yes, if you&#8217;re trying to eke every fractional win out of the roster, it matters.  If you&#8217;re no longer in contention, it doesn&#8217;t.  There are still reasons to keep him up for the purposes of planning for 2010, but those fall into a bin with whole lot of other off-field considerations that we&#8217;re not privy to, so I just have to defer to the decisions made by the people who are.</p>
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		<title>By: TestaverdeTD</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/08/01/shelton-gets-dfad/comment-page-1/#comment-344587</link>
		<dc:creator>TestaverdeTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Baker:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Shelton is trying not to take this as too much of a negative. He&#039;s been designated for assignment, but expects to go back to Class AAA Tacoma and hopes to be back up here in September.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Doesn&#039;t make it the right decision, but 1 more month of Sweeney over someone who could contribute more for 2009 doesn&#039;t mean a ton in the grand scheme of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Baker:</p>
<blockquote><p>Shelton is trying not to take this as too much of a negative. He&#8217;s been designated for assignment, but expects to go back to Class AAA Tacoma and hopes to be back up here in September.</p></blockquote>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t make it the right decision, but 1 more month of Sweeney over someone who could contribute more for 2009 doesn&#8217;t mean a ton in the grand scheme of things.</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/08/01/shelton-gets-dfad/comment-page-1/#comment-344583</link>
		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 07:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™m not sure about their lives off the field, but Sweeney and Branyan have become Siamese twins on the top step of the dugout â€“ those two dudes are completely inseparable.  I hate use the word chemistry, but Sheltonâ€™s DFA could simply be the small price which allows Sweeney to chum around with Branyan long enough to keep Branyan happy and in Seattle through 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™m not sure about their lives off the field, but Sweeney and Branyan have become Siamese twins on the top step of the dugout â€“ those two dudes are completely inseparable.  I hate use the word chemistry, but Sheltonâ€™s DFA could simply be the small price which allows Sweeney to chum around with Branyan long enough to keep Branyan happy and in Seattle through 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: cdowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Beltre comes back, I think Sweeney&#039;s knees might stiffen up on him again, requiring a DL stint...

As to who would back up first... Hannahan and/or Lopez, probably. Hardly ideal, but the most likely scenario given the roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Beltre comes back, I think Sweeney&#8217;s knees might stiffen up on him again, requiring a DL stint&#8230;</p>
<p>As to who would back up first&#8230; Hannahan and/or Lopez, probably. Hardly ideal, but the most likely scenario given the roster.</p>
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		<title>By: Kazinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Branyan&#039;s back is good, and we won&#039;t need a backup to take any reps for the rest of the season.  It will be interesting to see who gets cut when Beltre comes back next week.  If it is Sweeney, then no big deal.  It can&#039;t be Hanahan, because Beltre isn&#039;t going to be an iron horse coming back so soon from surgery. 

But then without Shelton or Sweeney, who do you have to back up first and DH?  Bring Carp back? Tui?  Nelson?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Branyan&#8217;s back is good, and we won&#8217;t need a backup to take any reps for the rest of the season.  It will be interesting to see who gets cut when Beltre comes back next week.  If it is Sweeney, then no big deal.  It can&#8217;t be Hanahan, because Beltre isn&#8217;t going to be an iron horse coming back so soon from surgery. </p>
<p>But then without Shelton or Sweeney, who do you have to back up first and DH?  Bring Carp back? Tui?  Nelson?</p>
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		<title>By: just a fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Shelton is young and has shown potential for being a very good hitter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Shelton is 29 years old, past his peak. I know, that&#039;s not perfect for everybody. But I don&#039;t think this is that big of a deal. If Shelton were any good, then surely somebody would have offered Zduriencik a 25-year-old AA reliever for him before the trade deadline. Obviously, nobody else in major league baseball cares that much about Chris Shelton, and he will likely be in Tacoma whenever the rules say he can be.

He hasn&#039;t done anything in the majors since 2006. Maybe he will become a right-handed Russell Branyan, but obviously his 11 Ks in 28 plate appearances this year were.

The M&#039;s will have the same record whether Mike Sweeney or Chris Shelton is batting from the right side at DH. And Griffey probably plays better defense at 3rd, and he&#039;s left-handed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Shelton is young and has shown potential for being a very good hitter.</p></blockquote>
<p>Shelton is 29 years old, past his peak. I know, that&#8217;s not perfect for everybody. But I don&#8217;t think this is that big of a deal. If Shelton were any good, then surely somebody would have offered Zduriencik a 25-year-old AA reliever for him before the trade deadline. Obviously, nobody else in major league baseball cares that much about Chris Shelton, and he will likely be in Tacoma whenever the rules say he can be.</p>
<p>He hasn&#8217;t done anything in the majors since 2006. Maybe he will become a right-handed Russell Branyan, but obviously his 11 Ks in 28 plate appearances this year were.</p>
<p>The M&#8217;s will have the same record whether Mike Sweeney or Chris Shelton is batting from the right side at DH. And Griffey probably plays better defense at 3rd, and he&#8217;s left-handed.</p>
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		<title>By: JMHawkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMHawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 04:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Sheltonâ€™s presence has no effect on the rest of this season. Itâ€™s not like heâ€™s going to pull off a mask and reveal heâ€™s Albert Pujols in disguise.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He was Pujolsian for one month a couple of years ago.  More than Pujolsian.  Sure, there was luck involved, but Shelton is young and has shown potential for being a very good hitter.  Sweeney on the other hand is playing out the end of a nice career.  He was a good ballplayer, but his body is held together with ace bandages and pine tar these days.  Shelton has much greater odds of being a valuable hitter next year than Sweeney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Sheltonâ€™s presence has no effect on the rest of this season. Itâ€™s not like heâ€™s going to pull off a mask and reveal heâ€™s Albert Pujols in disguise.</p></blockquote>
<p>He was Pujolsian for one month a couple of years ago.  More than Pujolsian.  Sure, there was luck involved, but Shelton is young and has shown potential for being a very good hitter.  Sweeney on the other hand is playing out the end of a nice career.  He was a good ballplayer, but his body is held together with ace bandages and pine tar these days.  Shelton has much greater odds of being a valuable hitter next year than Sweeney.</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soooooo I don&#039;t get it.

If you think the team is not competitive, why keep Sweeney around? He has zero long-term value to the team, and the team employs a managerial staff (and Griffey, among others) to keep the clubhouse happy, if you think that&#039;s important. He&#039;s not a part of the long-term plans, and he&#039;s taking a roster spot they could use on someone interesting or useful.

If you think the team is competitive, or that they should try and win games this year, why keep Sweeney around? He can&#039;t hit, can&#039;t play defense. At least Shelton can hit, and play bad defense at third in a pinch in addition to first. He&#039;s a useful part of a bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soooooo I don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>If you think the team is not competitive, why keep Sweeney around? He has zero long-term value to the team, and the team employs a managerial staff (and Griffey, among others) to keep the clubhouse happy, if you think that&#8217;s important. He&#8217;s not a part of the long-term plans, and he&#8217;s taking a roster spot they could use on someone interesting or useful.</p>
<p>If you think the team is competitive, or that they should try and win games this year, why keep Sweeney around? He can&#8217;t hit, can&#8217;t play defense. At least Shelton can hit, and play bad defense at third in a pinch in addition to first. He&#8217;s a useful part of a bench.</p>
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		<title>By: PBS</title>
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		<dc:creator>PBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest misstep of this season is all the stuff that happened last season.  I was much more sorry to Clement and even Wlad go. Heck, I think there is a decent chance he is playing 1st in tacoma next week.

From a performance standpoint, I don&#039;t really see the a huge difference between dropping a -0.1 WAR who didn&#039;t played enough in favor of a -0.5 WAR player, who doesn&#039;t really play a lot.  They are both in the way of Carp.  And if having Sweeney and Griffey around make Wak&#039;s first season easier, then so be it.

I am bothered that we are denying Royals fans the opportunity for a Mike Sweeney Farewell Tour.  After they took Yuni off our hands, we owe them that much.  Maybe we can send him back there for some delicious BBQ or something, let him retire in style...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest misstep of this season is all the stuff that happened last season.  I was much more sorry to Clement and even Wlad go. Heck, I think there is a decent chance he is playing 1st in tacoma next week.</p>
<p>From a performance standpoint, I don&#8217;t really see the a huge difference between dropping a -0.1 WAR who didn&#8217;t played enough in favor of a -0.5 WAR player, who doesn&#8217;t really play a lot.  They are both in the way of Carp.  And if having Sweeney and Griffey around make Wak&#8217;s first season easier, then so be it.</p>
<p>I am bothered that we are denying Royals fans the opportunity for a Mike Sweeney Farewell Tour.  After they took Yuni off our hands, we owe them that much.  Maybe we can send him back there for some delicious BBQ or something, let him retire in style&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: diderot</title>
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		<dc:creator>diderot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is simply a terrible move.  
What the last couple of weeks have given us is the gift of watching the core of our 2010 team compete for the rest of the season against major league competition--much of it fighting for playoff spots.  
The continued presence of Griffey and Sweeney prevents us from better understanding what our needs will be in the offseason in the 1B/DH roles.  First Clement, and now Shelton could have well helped answer those questions for us given the requisite ABs.  Instead, both of them are gone for the sake of two guys who can&#039;t hit as well as Edgar could right now...can&#039;t run as well as Zdurencik...and make Ibanez look like Gutierrez.
Really, the huge misstep of this entire season has been the waste of our DH position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is simply a terrible move.<br />
What the last couple of weeks have given us is the gift of watching the core of our 2010 team compete for the rest of the season against major league competition&#8211;much of it fighting for playoff spots.<br />
The continued presence of Griffey and Sweeney prevents us from better understanding what our needs will be in the offseason in the 1B/DH roles.  First Clement, and now Shelton could have well helped answer those questions for us given the requisite ABs.  Instead, both of them are gone for the sake of two guys who can&#8217;t hit as well as Edgar could right now&#8230;can&#8217;t run as well as Zdurencik&#8230;and make Ibanez look like Gutierrez.<br />
Really, the huge misstep of this entire season has been the waste of our DH position.</p>
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