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		<title>By: RollingWave</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/08/02/the-yankees-and-lying-and-the-yankees-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-345172</link>
		<dc:creator>RollingWave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 07:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What prospects have the Yankees traded recently that became impact players (not even stars) for other teams? In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.

Iâ€™m sure there are some, but Cano is the only one who sticks out.
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Aside from the guys on their roster. They traded away Mike Lowell, Juan Rivera, Alfonso Soriano (though he was already established by then), Nick Johnson (though he&#039;s hurt a lot). Ramon Ramirez (for Shawn Chacon, he&#039;s been a very good RP when healthy), Marcus Thames. Ted Lilly kinda started his career with the Yankees (but he debuted with the Expos) as did Damaso Marte.

They havn&#039;t traded away anyone who&#039;s a likely hall of famer  (unlike say... Jeff Bagwell and Curt Schilling)  . but they have traded away some reasonablly solid players . it wasn&#039;t as bad as the 80s when they traded Fred McGriff for a shitty RP, Kyle Drabek for a overrated SP 10 years older than him. or the epic Jay Buhner trade. and I&#039;m sure there was a sour taste in their mouth watching Jose Rijo looking like a god in the 1990 WS . (though he did net Ricky Henderson. so it&#039;s not like they blew him for crap)

Most big market clubs overhype their prospects (well everyone does just that the big market amplifies that more) but you could discern with your own eyes on who is probably overhyped (say.. Andrew Brackman) and who is pretty legit (say.. Jesus Montero. with the bat anyway) and someone who&#039;s inbetween (Austin Jackson..I&#039;m not totally sold on him but there&#039;s a reasonable chance that he&#039;s solid)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What prospects have the Yankees traded recently that became impact players (not even stars) for other teams? In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.</p>
<p>Iâ€™m sure there are some, but Cano is the only one who sticks out.
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<p>Aside from the guys on their roster. They traded away Mike Lowell, Juan Rivera, Alfonso Soriano (though he was already established by then), Nick Johnson (though he&#8217;s hurt a lot). Ramon Ramirez (for Shawn Chacon, he&#8217;s been a very good RP when healthy), Marcus Thames. Ted Lilly kinda started his career with the Yankees (but he debuted with the Expos) as did Damaso Marte.</p>
<p>They havn&#8217;t traded away anyone who&#8217;s a likely hall of famer  (unlike say&#8230; Jeff Bagwell and Curt Schilling)  . but they have traded away some reasonablly solid players . it wasn&#8217;t as bad as the 80s when they traded Fred McGriff for a shitty RP, Kyle Drabek for a overrated SP 10 years older than him. or the epic Jay Buhner trade. and I&#8217;m sure there was a sour taste in their mouth watching Jose Rijo looking like a god in the 1990 WS . (though he did net Ricky Henderson. so it&#8217;s not like they blew him for crap)</p>
<p>Most big market clubs overhype their prospects (well everyone does just that the big market amplifies that more) but you could discern with your own eyes on who is probably overhyped (say.. Andrew Brackman) and who is pretty legit (say.. Jesus Montero. with the bat anyway) and someone who&#8217;s inbetween (Austin Jackson..I&#8217;m not totally sold on him but there&#8217;s a reasonable chance that he&#8217;s solid)</p>
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		<title>By: TestaverdeTD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TestaverdeTD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam S:

On this year&#039;s team, Joba, Phil Hughes, Cano, Gardner before he broke his thumb, Alfredo Aceves, David Robertson, Melky Cabrera and Ramiro Pena have all seen time.   Brian Bruney was signed as a minor league FA.  Chien-Ming Wang was the team&#039;s #2 starter before imploding with injuries.  Over the last few years we&#039;ve also had a bunch of homegrown RP and spot starters.  In fairness, we haven&#039;t produced many impact position players - just Cano so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam S:</p>
<p>On this year&#8217;s team, Joba, Phil Hughes, Cano, Gardner before he broke his thumb, Alfredo Aceves, David Robertson, Melky Cabrera and Ramiro Pena have all seen time.   Brian Bruney was signed as a minor league FA.  Chien-Ming Wang was the team&#8217;s #2 starter before imploding with injuries.  Over the last few years we&#8217;ve also had a bunch of homegrown RP and spot starters.  In fairness, we haven&#8217;t produced many impact position players &#8211; just Cano so far.</p>
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		<title>By: et_blankenship</title>
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		<dc:creator>et_blankenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You missed the evolution.  The Yankees currently feature more home-grown talent on the 25-man roster than just about every other team in baseball.  In fact, most big-budget teams rank near the top while most of the small budget teams have gone in the opposite direction.  As for the Mets . . . they are still hunting with sticks and rocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.</p></blockquote>
<p>You missed the evolution.  The Yankees currently feature more home-grown talent on the 25-man roster than just about every other team in baseball.  In fact, most big-budget teams rank near the top while most of the small budget teams have gone in the opposite direction.  As for the Mets . . . they are still hunting with sticks and rocks.</p>
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		<title>By: BobbyAyalaFan4Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobbyAyalaFan4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Youâ€™re just helping them. Donâ€™t help the Yankees.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think this just became one of my favorite last sentences to any post on this site! An age-old adage that holds true today! That said, can&#039;t wait til next week when we get to smoke &#039;em at home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Youâ€™re just helping them. Donâ€™t help the Yankees.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think this just became one of my favorite last sentences to any post on this site! An age-old adage that holds true today! That said, can&#8217;t wait til next week when we get to smoke &#8216;em at home!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What prospects have the Yankees traded recently that became impact players (not even stars) for other teams?  In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.

I&#039;m sure there are some, but Cano is the only one who sticks out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What prospects have the Yankees traded recently that became impact players (not even stars) for other teams?  In the last 10 years, what Yankee prospects have they brought through the system and contributed to the major league team.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are some, but Cano is the only one who sticks out.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is why every Yankee prospect gets hyped to the skies until theyâ€™re traded and discovered to be players with all the baseball talent of an ox and the work ethic of Yuni.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I want this as my ring tone.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is why every Yankee prospect gets hyped to the skies until theyâ€™re traded and discovered to be players with all the baseball talent of an ox and the work ethic of Yuni.</p></blockquote>
<p>I want this as my ring tone&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: scott19</title>
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		<dc:creator>scott19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is why every Yankee prospect gets hyped to the skies until theyâ€™re traded and discovered to be players with all the baseball talent of an ox and the work ethic of Yuni.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, you mean first-ballot HOFer&#039;s such as Russ Davis and Sterling Hitchcock...who Woody Woodward got duped into over-trading for?

Thank goodness we have a GM these days in Zduriencik with a lot more acumen and savvy.

And, yes, nice work Derek!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is why every Yankee prospect gets hyped to the skies until theyâ€™re traded and discovered to be players with all the baseball talent of an ox and the work ethic of Yuni.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, you mean first-ballot HOFer&#8217;s such as Russ Davis and Sterling Hitchcock&#8230;who Woody Woodward got duped into over-trading for?</p>
<p>Thank goodness we have a GM these days in Zduriencik with a lot more acumen and savvy.</p>
<p>And, yes, nice work Derek!</p>
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		<title>By: DMZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, yet still OT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, yet still OT</p>
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		<title>By: mln</title>
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		<dc:creator>mln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=47840&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sons of Sam Horn&lt;/a&gt; site that the Yankees 2.0 (aka the Red Sox) inquired about King Felix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read on the <a href="http://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?showtopic=47840" rel="nofollow">Sons of Sam Horn</a> site that the Yankees 2.0 (aka the Red Sox) inquired about King Felix.</p>
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