Comments on: Trusting Your Changeup

By: Jake N.

Jake N. — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:38:45 +0000

Because it beat your bull pen to death…

By: joser

joser — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:20:54 +0000

There needs to be at very least 2 more pitchers that can log 200 quality innings next year along with felix.

Why? Just because that’s usually how it’s done? This year has proven that you can run an assortment of back end starters out there for a few games apiece and get close to the same results. It hasn’t been the pitching that’s been the problem this year; the M’s have not lost a lot of blow-outs. With a little more offense they’d still be in the hunt for the post-season.

By: Jake N.

Jake N. — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:23:57 +0000

Yah, I felt Fister accomplished alot there yesterday with that pitch. More then I thought he would get away with. Good on him for the effort. I hope he continues to develope.

Now for my concerns.
The Mariners have collected quite an assortment of back end starters, left and right hand. Not one of these guys has showed ability/skill/durability to stick. RRS,Vargas,Olson,Snell,Morrow,Silva,French have all been in and out of the rotation for numerous reasons. We have one starter Felix. There needs to be at very least 2 more pitchers that can log 200 quality innings next year along with felix. Who are the most like guys that will step up and take those rolls? Care to prognosticate?

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 22:48:11 +0000

OK, then I’m going with Fister = Guetterman, for a reasonable comparison of what his career is likely to look like.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:11:08 +0000

There’s only been one Jamie Moyer. There’s no point in comparing every guy with a crappy fastball to the once-in-history dude who made it work.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:09:28 +0000

To clarify, Dave says Fister is either a back of the rotation starter or else a reliever.

I think his absolute upside would be something like a right handed Moyer, whereas something along what Dave is predicting might be, what, a righthanded Lee Guetterman (who also lacked a fastball and bounced between starting and relieving? And Fister’s downside would be to wash out in a year or two like Bob Wolcott.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 19:35:20 +0000

Yeah, but heâ€™s left handed and has a heartbeat.

Are you saying Fister has no heartbeat?

I’m afraid the meaning of the comment went past me.

By: JakeSuds

JakeSuds — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:01:43 +0000

Yeah, but he’s left handed and has a heartbeat.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 13:55:25 +0000

A guy named Moyer ended up having a pretty good major league career with a below average fastball, great changeup, and good control.

By: The Ancient Mariner

The Ancient Mariner — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:10:07 +0000

The White Sox would probably look at Fister and teach him a cutter . . . I wonder if something like that would help him. It seems to me that if he could get another pitch even to fringe-average, as good as his change is, he’d have a pretty workable repertoire.