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		<title>By: thebigp708</title>
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		<dc:creator>thebigp708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: poetfiend</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/kenji-opts-out/comment-page-2/#comment-353643</link>
		<dc:creator>poetfiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even as he parts
he surprises us still: he
will not block the plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even as he parts<br />
he surprises us still: he<br />
will not block the plate.</p>
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		<title>By: henryv</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/kenji-opts-out/comment-page-2/#comment-353591</link>
		<dc:creator>henryv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank freaking God.

It&#039;s not that I don&#039;t appreciate what Kenji has done, but rather that I have no interest in having him on the roster for that insanely stupid price tag.

This is one of the best pieces of new the M&#039;s have had in quite a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank freaking God.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that I don&#8217;t appreciate what Kenji has done, but rather that I have no interest in having him on the roster for that insanely stupid price tag.</p>
<p>This is one of the best pieces of new the M&#8217;s have had in quite a while.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ancient Mariner</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/kenji-opts-out/comment-page-2/#comment-353384</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ancient Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; this leaves us with Moore and (maybe if he heals) Johnson as a catching tandem. And Wak, for whatever reason, fails to observe the sinkhole that is Johnson every time he approaches the plate, either with a bat or a mask. This decision makes us worse on the field, if better on the payroll.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, it doesn&#039;t make us worse on the field, because Johnson was going to be the main guy regardless.  Nor does this leave us with Moore and Johnson as a catching tandem -- Moore probably isn&#039;t ready, and  if you go up and look at crelsner&#039;s post, you&#039;ll see there are plenty of serviceable catchers out there who shouldn&#039;t cost much, some of whom at least could probably give us roughly comparable production to what we would have been likely to get out of Kenji.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And finally, using homeless people as an analogy for this discussion is beneath this site.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nobody was.  Chill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> this leaves us with Moore and (maybe if he heals) Johnson as a catching tandem. And Wak, for whatever reason, fails to observe the sinkhole that is Johnson every time he approaches the plate, either with a bat or a mask. This decision makes us worse on the field, if better on the payroll.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t make us worse on the field, because Johnson was going to be the main guy regardless.  Nor does this leave us with Moore and Johnson as a catching tandem &#8212; Moore probably isn&#8217;t ready, and  if you go up and look at crelsner&#8217;s post, you&#8217;ll see there are plenty of serviceable catchers out there who shouldn&#8217;t cost much, some of whom at least could probably give us roughly comparable production to what we would have been likely to get out of Kenji.</p>
<blockquote><p>And finally, using homeless people as an analogy for this discussion is beneath this site.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nobody was.  Chill.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 07:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the Mariners should earmark money for anything yet.  I don&#039;t think Zduriencik has chiseled anything in stone as to his off-season plans; Outside of general goals perhaps, and this &quot;windfall&quot; may or may not have any impact on what he does this off-season.

I do agree that I don&#039;t think the Mariners can simply buy their way into the post-season.  
The cash and free agents available just aren&#039;t conducive to that approach, and it&#039;s not the way a smart team operates. 

What we can conclude is that this team has been very astute at acquiring quality players within a very limited budget, and I don&#039;t think that approach is thrown out the window simply because a few more dollars show up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the Mariners should earmark money for anything yet.  I don&#8217;t think Zduriencik has chiseled anything in stone as to his off-season plans; Outside of general goals perhaps, and this &#8220;windfall&#8221; may or may not have any impact on what he does this off-season.</p>
<p>I do agree that I don&#8217;t think the Mariners can simply buy their way into the post-season.<br />
The cash and free agents available just aren&#8217;t conducive to that approach, and it&#8217;s not the way a smart team operates. </p>
<p>What we can conclude is that this team has been very astute at acquiring quality players within a very limited budget, and I don&#8217;t think that approach is thrown out the window simply because a few more dollars show up.</p>
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		<title>By: mariners2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>mariners2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 06:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we have a little more confidence in Zduriencikâ€™s ability to spend $8M effectively&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Should he just save this money for Felix in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we have a little more confidence in Zduriencikâ€™s ability to spend $8M effectively</p></blockquote>
<p>Should he just save this money for Felix in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: diderot</title>
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		<dc:creator>diderot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we have a little more confidence in Zduriencikâ€™s ability to spend $8M effectively&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Adam, I agree.

My point was for those who apparently think we should go out immediately and spend the cash on the best available free agent catcher.  
If the money goes instead to more scouting or international free agents or cheaper beer at Safeco, fine.  I just fear the knee jerk reaction of spend-it-now for someone who won&#039;t serve us  better than Kenji.

But then, as you say, it&#039;s Z making the decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we have a little more confidence in Zduriencikâ€™s ability to spend $8M effectively</p></blockquote>
<p>Adam, I agree.</p>
<p>My point was for those who apparently think we should go out immediately and spend the cash on the best available free agent catcher.<br />
If the money goes instead to more scouting or international free agents or cheaper beer at Safeco, fine.  I just fear the knee jerk reaction of spend-it-now for someone who won&#8217;t serve us  better than Kenji.</p>
<p>But then, as you say, it&#8217;s Z making the decision.</p>
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		<title>By: 95Ms</title>
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		<dc:creator>95Ms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo what lots of others have said. I want to add my voice of thanks to Kenji for his hard work and the time he gave to help our team. To me, he always seemed to be giving it his best. In my judgement, that unfortunately seems to be a problem in today&#039;s sports culture. That&#039;s all I think one can do in life. I don&#039;t know the factors that went into his decision of course. But, if some of it was made on the basis of what is better for the team, a huge thanks even more to you Mr. Johjima. I will never know, but I wanted to put that out there. Much appreciation. Best wishes for the man and his family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo what lots of others have said. I want to add my voice of thanks to Kenji for his hard work and the time he gave to help our team. To me, he always seemed to be giving it his best. In my judgement, that unfortunately seems to be a problem in today&#8217;s sports culture. That&#8217;s all I think one can do in life. I don&#8217;t know the factors that went into his decision of course. But, if some of it was made on the basis of what is better for the team, a huge thanks even more to you Mr. Johjima. I will never know, but I wanted to put that out there. Much appreciation. Best wishes for the man and his family.</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
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		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 05:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, OK, everybody &lt;a href=&quot;http://ussmariner.com/2009/10/06/the-foundation/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Go back to Dave&#039;s October 6 article&lt;/a&gt; and add 8 million... and we see that now Jack Z. has more like ~2.1 million per WAR to play with in salary flexibility, instead of ~1.7.

This helps things, but it still means Zduriencik isn&#039;t going to be able to sign the Mariners into contention (unless management is willing to REALLY crank the budget up, which is dubious).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, OK, everybody <a href="http://ussmariner.com/2009/10/06/the-foundation/" rel="nofollow">Go back to Dave&#8217;s October 6 article</a> and add 8 million&#8230; and we see that now Jack Z. has more like ~2.1 million per WAR to play with in salary flexibility, instead of ~1.7.</p>
<p>This helps things, but it still means Zduriencik isn&#8217;t going to be able to sign the Mariners into contention (unless management is willing to REALLY crank the budget up, which is dubious).</p>
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		<title>By: Adam B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>diderot:
&lt;blockquote&gt;for those dancing on Kenjiâ€™s contractual grave, remember that this leaves us with Moore and (maybe if he heals) Johnson as a catching tandem. And Wak, for whatever reason, fails to observe the sinkhole that is Johnson every time he approaches the plate, either with a bat or a mask. This decision makes us worse on the field, if better on the payroll.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think the reason everyone here is pretty gleeful is the fact that we have a little more confidence in Zduriencik&#039;s ability to spend $8M effectively, then we do in Johjima&#039;s ability to be worth $8M as a middle aged catcher coming off an injury plagued season.

Personally I don&#039;t see a huge trade off in performance moving from Johjima to a Moore/Johjima/Catcher X situation. I think that whatever difference in production the Mariners suffer from losing Johjima, will be more then offset by the potential gains of a much more flexible payroll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>diderot:</p>
<blockquote><p>for those dancing on Kenjiâ€™s contractual grave, remember that this leaves us with Moore and (maybe if he heals) Johnson as a catching tandem. And Wak, for whatever reason, fails to observe the sinkhole that is Johnson every time he approaches the plate, either with a bat or a mask. This decision makes us worse on the field, if better on the payroll.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think the reason everyone here is pretty gleeful is the fact that we have a little more confidence in Zduriencik&#8217;s ability to spend $8M effectively, then we do in Johjima&#8217;s ability to be worth $8M as a middle aged catcher coming off an injury plagued season.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t see a huge trade off in performance moving from Johjima to a Moore/Johjima/Catcher X situation. I think that whatever difference in production the Mariners suffer from losing Johjima, will be more then offset by the potential gains of a much more flexible payroll.</p>
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