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		<title>By: Jay Yencich</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/now-about-yusei-kikuchi/comment-page-1/#comment-353841</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Yencich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 05:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not until he&#039;s done his time in the NPB at least.  Good for him, probably, good for the NPB, definitely, less good for us, though we weren&#039;t exactly the front-runners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not until he&#8217;s done his time in the NPB at least.  Good for him, probably, good for the NPB, definitely, less good for us, though we weren&#8217;t exactly the front-runners.</p>
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		<title>By: KaminaAyato</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/now-about-yusei-kikuchi/comment-page-1/#comment-353838</link>
		<dc:creator>KaminaAyato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been announced.  No one stateside will be able to get him as he has announced his intention to stay in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been announced.  No one stateside will be able to get him as he has announced his intention to stay in Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Yencich</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/now-about-yusei-kikuchi/comment-page-1/#comment-353788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Yencich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d imagine that he &lt;em&gt;could &lt;/em&gt;get a contract close to what Ynoa got from the Athletics ($4.25m).  He will try to drive up his price as much as he can, which is about par for the course, though a lot of teams seem to be making overtures to him in the form of chatting with major leaguers or big time prospects or making additional offers to help his adjustment.  I don&#039;t know what his demands are exactly.  Some outlets have suggested that he wants a major league contract, which is absurd, but someone might offer him one anyway.

I don&#039;t know what the Mariners are doing for their part.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;d have an issue with providing him with his own translator though, seeing as how they gave Suda one when he signed.

The Rangers may be emerging as the front runners.  They sent Derek Holland to talk to him about the minor league system and what it&#039;s like to come through it.  Who knows if they have the money to spend, what with all their issues.  

Kikuchi is supposed to make an announcement as to whether he&#039;ll opt for the NPB or the MLB on Sunday</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d imagine that he <em>could </em>get a contract close to what Ynoa got from the Athletics ($4.25m).  He will try to drive up his price as much as he can, which is about par for the course, though a lot of teams seem to be making overtures to him in the form of chatting with major leaguers or big time prospects or making additional offers to help his adjustment.  I don&#8217;t know what his demands are exactly.  Some outlets have suggested that he wants a major league contract, which is absurd, but someone might offer him one anyway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the Mariners are doing for their part.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;d have an issue with providing him with his own translator though, seeing as how they gave Suda one when he signed.</p>
<p>The Rangers may be emerging as the front runners.  They sent Derek Holland to talk to him about the minor league system and what it&#8217;s like to come through it.  Who knows if they have the money to spend, what with all their issues.  </p>
<p>Kikuchi is supposed to make an announcement as to whether he&#8217;ll opt for the NPB or the MLB on Sunday</p>
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		<title>By: John W.</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/10/19/now-about-yusei-kikuchi/comment-page-1/#comment-353720</link>
		<dc:creator>John W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

How much would we be paying this kid to develop in our farm system for three to four years?  Wouldn&#039;t the fact that a lot of teams are interested in him allow Kikuchi to drive up his own price?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>How much would we be paying this kid to develop in our farm system for three to four years?  Wouldn&#8217;t the fact that a lot of teams are interested in him allow Kikuchi to drive up his own price?</p>
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		<title>By: Typical Idiot Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Typical Idiot Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the inverted W&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is a M!  Invert the W, flip it upside down, or whatever, and it&#039;s darned M!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the inverted W</p></blockquote>
<p>Is a M!  Invert the W, flip it upside down, or whatever, and it&#8217;s darned M!</p>
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		<title>By: KaminaAyato</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaminaAyato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true.  So that being said, Kikuchi would probably have a better shot given that Chinese/Taiwanese baseball is still considered inferior to Japanese/Korean baseball.

While I&#039;d love to see Kikuchi here in the states, it&#039;s a touchy subject taking HS players and bringing them to the states.  It&#039;s one thing taking an established player like a Kuroda or a Matsuzaka, it&#039;s another to take an up-and-comer such as Kikuchi or Tazawa.

Of course that being said, there was a super-rookie (1st year) in the summer tournament that got people excited, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maQ2_4FzQ4M&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Itou Takuro&lt;/a&gt;, that&#039;ll be interesting to watch the next 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true.  So that being said, Kikuchi would probably have a better shot given that Chinese/Taiwanese baseball is still considered inferior to Japanese/Korean baseball.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;d love to see Kikuchi here in the states, it&#8217;s a touchy subject taking HS players and bringing them to the states.  It&#8217;s one thing taking an established player like a Kuroda or a Matsuzaka, it&#8217;s another to take an up-and-comer such as Kikuchi or Tazawa.</p>
<p>Of course that being said, there was a super-rookie (1st year) in the summer tournament that got people excited, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maQ2_4FzQ4M" rel="nofollow">Itou Takuro</a>, that&#8217;ll be interesting to watch the next 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Yencich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Yencich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I didn&#039;t think the eephus was legit, but the broadcasters were talking about his curveball just before that and seemed to be surprised by it, so I thought that might have been it.

It&#039;s clear that some players handle the transition more easily than others when it comes to making the jump across.  We&#039;ve seen our share of that.  Chao Wang, who is now an outfielder on the Chinese National Team, started out as a pitcher with us, but couldn&#039;t handle the cultural transition.  Chia-an Huang also had some trouble, but there was a lot of off-field stuff that was working against him from the get-go.  It seems though that teams are putting in a great deal of effort these days to making sure such prospects have a support network as they&#039;re moving up, so that when things fall short for them its usually baseball-related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I didn&#8217;t think the eephus was legit, but the broadcasters were talking about his curveball just before that and seemed to be surprised by it, so I thought that might have been it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that some players handle the transition more easily than others when it comes to making the jump across.  We&#8217;ve seen our share of that.  Chao Wang, who is now an outfielder on the Chinese National Team, started out as a pitcher with us, but couldn&#8217;t handle the cultural transition.  Chia-an Huang also had some trouble, but there was a lot of off-field stuff that was working against him from the get-go.  It seems though that teams are putting in a great deal of effort these days to making sure such prospects have a support network as they&#8217;re moving up, so that when things fall short for them its usually baseball-related.</p>
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		<title>By: KaminaAyato</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaminaAyato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jay for giving a bit of a more detailed analysis on Kikuchi.  While I follow Japanese HS baseball quite a bit, I don&#039;t have the ability to analyze players.

That being said, while I favored Imamura Takeru out of Seihou HS, I could definitely see that Kikuchi was a very good pitcher who had the makeup of someone who could succeed in the states both in talent and mindset.

BTW, as for the eephus, he doesn&#039;t throw that at all.  I think it was a gimmicky thing.  I first saw that on a clip in YouTube and probably had the same reaction as the batter.

As a note, after the first day of meetings, it appeared that Kikuchi&#039;s manager Sasaki had some &lt;a href=&quot;http://yakyubaka.com/2009/10/19/day-three-of-the-kikuchi-meetings-end/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reservations&lt;/a&gt; about Kikuchi&#039;s development outside of baseball should he go to the states.  Don&#039;t blame him about that.  It&#039;ll certainly be a tough road coming through the minors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jay for giving a bit of a more detailed analysis on Kikuchi.  While I follow Japanese HS baseball quite a bit, I don&#8217;t have the ability to analyze players.</p>
<p>That being said, while I favored Imamura Takeru out of Seihou HS, I could definitely see that Kikuchi was a very good pitcher who had the makeup of someone who could succeed in the states both in talent and mindset.</p>
<p>BTW, as for the eephus, he doesn&#8217;t throw that at all.  I think it was a gimmicky thing.  I first saw that on a clip in YouTube and probably had the same reaction as the batter.</p>
<p>As a note, after the first day of meetings, it appeared that Kikuchi&#8217;s manager Sasaki had some <a href="http://yakyubaka.com/2009/10/19/day-three-of-the-kikuchi-meetings-end/" rel="nofollow">reservations</a> about Kikuchi&#8217;s development outside of baseball should he go to the states.  Don&#8217;t blame him about that.  It&#8217;ll certainly be a tough road coming through the minors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Yencich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Yencich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 17:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;When Dave would cover the prospects after the draft, he would include a high and low equivalent in terms of stuff and projection. Can you project Kikuchi like that for us?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, that&#039;s not exactly my forte, since I spend so much time staring at prospects.

A lot of people were making the claim that Kikuchi was Clayton Kershaw v2.0.  I think that&#039;s exaggerated, because he&#039;s not as tall, or strong, and doesn&#039;t light up the gun with the same consistency.  Kasey Kiker might be closer, presumably with better health.

I&#039;ll see what I can do for a comp with a &quot;real pitcher&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>When Dave would cover the prospects after the draft, he would include a high and low equivalent in terms of stuff and projection. Can you project Kikuchi like that for us?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s not exactly my forte, since I spend so much time staring at prospects.</p>
<p>A lot of people were making the claim that Kikuchi was Clayton Kershaw v2.0.  I think that&#8217;s exaggerated, because he&#8217;s not as tall, or strong, and doesn&#8217;t light up the gun with the same consistency.  Kasey Kiker might be closer, presumably with better health.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see what I can do for a comp with a &#8220;real pitcher&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Yencich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Yencich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t remember going through videos on Suda in quite the same way as I did with Kikuchi, but their billings are entirely different.  Suda dropped out of high school to hook up with Nomo&#039;s program in order to give himself a better chance of being signed, which means that he wasn&#039;t exactly developing a tremendous reputation for himself up to that point.  Suda, at the time he was signed, was an inch shorter and topping out at 93 mph.  His mechanics were even when I saw him, his motion a bit deliberate in terms of this weird leg kick thing he was doing, but no glaring issues, aside from him sucking that night because he had no command.  I&#039;d say Kikuchi is better in both categories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t remember going through videos on Suda in quite the same way as I did with Kikuchi, but their billings are entirely different.  Suda dropped out of high school to hook up with Nomo&#8217;s program in order to give himself a better chance of being signed, which means that he wasn&#8217;t exactly developing a tremendous reputation for himself up to that point.  Suda, at the time he was signed, was an inch shorter and topping out at 93 mph.  His mechanics were even when I saw him, his motion a bit deliberate in terms of this weird leg kick thing he was doing, but no glaring issues, aside from him sucking that night because he had no command.  I&#8217;d say Kikuchi is better in both categories.</p>
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