Comments on: Griffey Decision Not Going To Drag Out http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/ Seattle Mariners blog and general baseball discussion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:19:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: maqman http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354454 maqman Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:57:30 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354454 Overvaluations. In the last eight seasons Griffey and Sweeney together have been paid about $140,000,000 (Griffey roughly $78M and Sweeney about $62M). Their combined WAR value for those seasons was about $80M, Sweeney about $62.5M and Junior about $17.1. They make bankers pay look like chump change! Overvaluations. In the last eight seasons Griffey and Sweeney together have been paid about $140,000,000 (Griffey roughly $78M and Sweeney about $62M). Their combined WAR value for those seasons was about $80M, Sweeney about $62.5M and Junior about $17.1. They make bankers pay look like chump change!

]]> By: idahowriter http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354405 idahowriter Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:05:35 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354405 Sorry, "...BY calling it quits..." Sorry, “…BY calling it quits…”

]]> By: idahowriter http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354404 idahowriter Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:04:33 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354404 Not I. Junior wanted/needed a full season back in Seattle. I think he and Z both hoped the homecoming would rejuvenate the bat. Didn't happen, so that on-field lovefest after the last game of the season was the start of the Junior Farewell. Neither party is going to leave cash on the table but calling it quits in the offseason. Not I. Junior wanted/needed a full season back in Seattle. I think he and Z both hoped the homecoming would rejuvenate the bat. Didn’t happen, so that on-field lovefest after the last game of the season was the start of the Junior Farewell. Neither party is going to leave cash on the table but calling it quits in the offseason.

]]> By: georgmi http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354381 georgmi Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:51:05 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354381 Wasn't that the scenario we were discussing this spring? Wasn’t that the scenario we were discussing this spring?

]]> By: idahowriter http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354374 idahowriter Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:31 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354374 Prediction: M's resign Griffey. He struggles and/or goes down with an injury, announces retirement mid-season. M's rake in a oil tanker-load of cash during the farewell homestand and surrounding lovefest. Roster spot opened for whoever is crushing the PCL. Weepy fans rejoice. Prediction: M’s resign Griffey. He struggles and/or goes down with an injury, announces retirement mid-season. M’s rake in a oil tanker-load of cash during the farewell homestand and surrounding lovefest. Roster spot opened for whoever is crushing the PCL. Weepy fans rejoice.

]]> By: Pete http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354358 Pete Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:09:06 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354358 I think he's coming back, but I don't think he's going to demand a full-time DH job. Call me naive, but I think he'll be a part-timer/LH pinch hitter. In which case, the only thing we lose is the flexibility of that roster spot (which admittedly, could be unfortunate if we do the 12-pitcher thing again). But honestly, I don't think it will be as horrible as most of us think. In fact, I'm guessing he's at least a mildly helpful recruiting tool for a real DH. Thome? Delgado? I think he’s coming back, but I don’t think he’s going to demand a full-time DH job. Call me naive, but I think he’ll be a part-timer/LH pinch hitter. In which case, the only thing we lose is the flexibility of that roster spot (which admittedly, could be unfortunate if we do the 12-pitcher thing again).

But honestly, I don’t think it will be as horrible as most of us think. In fact, I’m guessing he’s at least a mildly helpful recruiting tool for a real DH. Thome? Delgado?

]]> By: maqman http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354327 maqman Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:08:14 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354327 If Jr makes an announcement it's that he's retiring, not that he wants the Ms to make him an offer (who else would?)- that's begging. If he's being re-signed the team makes the announcement. If Jr makes an announcement it’s that he’s retiring, not that he wants the Ms to make him an offer (who else would?)- that’s begging. If he’s being re-signed the team makes the announcement.

]]> By: Liam http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354325 Liam Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:11:59 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354325 Tim B. this was covered ad nauseum in the <em>On bringing back Griffey</em> comments. To summarize, in addition to the small sample size, there's nothing to suggest that this is a repeatable skill. Tim B. this was covered ad nauseum in the On bringing back Griffey comments.

To summarize, in addition to the small sample size, there’s nothing to suggest that this is a repeatable skill.

]]> By: Tim B. http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354324 Tim B. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:51:03 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354324 Griffey's home numbers look great. His OPS of .930 at home led the team. (If he had not played an away game in 2009, he would have placed eighth on the AL OPS leaderboard, among players with 150+ plate appearances.) At home, he was hitting .268/.382/.548/.930. Of course, his away numbers were atrocious: .174/.278/.306/.584. Griffey’s home numbers look great. His OPS of .930 at home led the team. (If he had not played an away game in 2009, he would have placed eighth on the AL OPS leaderboard, among players with 150+ plate appearances.)

At home, he was hitting .268/.382/.548/.930. Of course, his away numbers were atrocious: .174/.278/.306/.584.

]]> By: Robo Ape http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/05/griffey-decision-not-going-to-drag-out/comment-page-1/#comment-354323 Robo Ape Fri, 06 Nov 2009 08:38:54 +0000 http://ussmariner.com/?p=9617#comment-354323 While <em>excited</em> about his return for purely nostalgia reasons last year, I was nervous when they brought him on because I was afraid of how he'd be used. I think I couldn't have been happier with how he ended up being used considering the team we had. If they do bring him back I can't conceivably imagine Z saying "Okay, that's it, we've got the DH spot taken care of." Worst case scenario, it's "We didn't get the moves we wanted but we have a reasonable fall back at DH in JR". Best case scenario "we've got a good pinch hit bat off the bench". That is, of course, assuming he's back. While excited about his return for purely nostalgia reasons last year, I was nervous when they brought him on because I was afraid of how he’d be used. I think I couldn’t have been happier with how he ended up being used considering the team we had.

If they do bring him back I can’t conceivably imagine Z saying “Okay, that’s it, we’ve got the DH spot taken care of.” Worst case scenario, it’s “We didn’t get the moves we wanted but we have a reasonable fall back at DH in JR”. Best case scenario “we’ve got a good pinch hit bat off the bench”.

That is, of course, assuming he’s back.

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