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		<title>By: Wolfman</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/06/getting-to-five-hundred-was-hard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-354460</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolfman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Our comments section sucks.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I MIGHT EVEN SAY THAT IN THE POST ITSELF ARRGGHHH&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sometimes I don&#039;t understand the snide comments made by you guys and sometimes I find them hilarious.  I chose to look at these two comments as hilarious...especially given the comments that preceded them!  :D

Given all that, I do appreciate the work you do in putting all this info and off-season possibilities together.  I don&#039;t follow this stuff nearly as closely as you guys so I want to than you for the &#039;enlightenment&#039;.  It&#039;s going to be fun watching Z operate. I absolutely believe he can and will make that next tough step and get this team to the playoffs.  Maybe I&#039;m just being a homer, but everything he&#039;s done has been impressive to me so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our comments section sucks.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I MIGHT EVEN SAY THAT IN THE POST ITSELF ARRGGHHH</p></blockquote>
<p>Sometimes I don&#8217;t understand the snide comments made by you guys and sometimes I find them hilarious.  I chose to look at these two comments as hilarious&#8230;especially given the comments that preceded them!  <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Given all that, I do appreciate the work you do in putting all this info and off-season possibilities together.  I don&#8217;t follow this stuff nearly as closely as you guys so I want to than you for the &#8216;enlightenment&#8217;.  It&#8217;s going to be fun watching Z operate. I absolutely believe he can and will make that next tough step and get this team to the playoffs.  Maybe I&#8217;m just being a homer, but everything he&#8217;s done has been impressive to me so far.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaytonMiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClaytonMiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this post. This season&#039;s W-L improvement was uncommon and particularly successful. Historically, that quick rise has been unsustainable (like a housing bubble). I wonder how the Ms 2009 roster composition and the theory behind it compares to other +24 or better win seasons since UZR is available?

Without knowing that data, I&#039;d like to think Jack Z has the ability to avoid those pitfalls of the past. He sure has shown himself as a top notch GM.

I tip my cap to the Royals fan who commented earlier. That&#039;s fan-class.
And check out the great write-up on Guti&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/highs-and-lows-of-uzr-2007-9-gutierrez&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;insane&lt;/a&gt; UZR on Fangraphs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this post. This season&#8217;s W-L improvement was uncommon and particularly successful. Historically, that quick rise has been unsustainable (like a housing bubble). I wonder how the Ms 2009 roster composition and the theory behind it compares to other +24 or better win seasons since UZR is available?</p>
<p>Without knowing that data, I&#8217;d like to think Jack Z has the ability to avoid those pitfalls of the past. He sure has shown himself as a top notch GM.</p>
<p>I tip my cap to the Royals fan who commented earlier. That&#8217;s fan-class.<br />
And check out the great write-up on Guti&#8217;s <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/highs-and-lows-of-uzr-2007-9-gutierrez" rel="nofollow">insane</a> UZR on Fangraphs.</p>
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		<title>By: TranquilPsychosis</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/06/getting-to-five-hundred-was-hard-too/comment-page-1/#comment-354450</link>
		<dc:creator>TranquilPsychosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 05:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, fortunately the Mâ€™s get to play six games against the Padres every year and nine against the Royals, while only playing 9 games each against the Yankees and Red Sox.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 This is MLB&#039;s idea of parity. Lovely isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, fortunately the Mâ€™s get to play six games against the Padres every year and nine against the Royals, while only playing 9 games each against the Yankees and Red Sox.</p></blockquote>
<p> This is MLB&#8217;s idea of parity. Lovely isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 01:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Part of the issue is that itâ€™s a zero-sum game. The total number of wins in a season for all teams is set, and the average is always 81. You can improve your talent level without increasing your wins if the other teams improve more.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, fortunately the M&#039;s get to play six games against the Padres every year and nine against the Royals, while only playing 9 games each against the Yankees and Red Sox.</description>
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Part of the issue is that itâ€™s a zero-sum game. The total number of wins in a season for all teams is set, and the average is always 81. You can improve your talent level without increasing your wins if the other teams improve more.
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<p>Yes, fortunately the M&#8217;s get to play six games against the Padres every year and nine against the Royals, while only playing 9 games each against the Yankees and Red Sox.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In most MLB divisions in most years a .600 record gets you into the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In most MLB divisions in most years a .600 record gets you into the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Breadbaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breadbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of the issue is that it&#039;s a zero-sum game.  The total number of wins in a season for all teams is set, and the average is always 81.  You can improve your talent level without increasing your wins if the other teams improve more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of the issue is that it&#8217;s a zero-sum game.  The total number of wins in a season for all teams is set, and the average is always 81.  You can improve your talent level without increasing your wins if the other teams improve more.</p>
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		<title>By: Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the solid write-up wasn&#039;t enough, the comments were.

Launch the &quot;Buy the author a beer&quot; link, Derek! You&#039;ve earned one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the solid write-up wasn&#8217;t enough, the comments were.</p>
<p>Launch the &#8220;Buy the author a beer&#8221; link, Derek! You&#8217;ve earned one.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
On the other hand, I still donâ€™t quite understand forcing Hall out to left when he clearly couldnâ€™t play there, injury or otherwise. If thatâ€™s a sign that Saunders isnâ€™t going to get everyday at bats, I worry.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As was &lt;a href=&quot;http://ussmariner.com/2009/09/25/game-154-mariners-at-blue-jays/#comment-351850&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussed here at the time&lt;/a&gt;, Wakamatsu wanted to work on Saunders&#039; hitting, and not in a game situation.    With the team out of the running for the division by that point, it didn&#039;t really matter who he ran out in LF (other than maybe hurting Felix&#039; Cy Young candidacy a little).  You can quibble with that decision, but it certainly doesn&#039;t suggest they don&#039;t want to give Saunders &quot;everyday at bats&quot; in the future when it matters.</description>
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On the other hand, I still donâ€™t quite understand forcing Hall out to left when he clearly couldnâ€™t play there, injury or otherwise. If thatâ€™s a sign that Saunders isnâ€™t going to get everyday at bats, I worry.
</p></blockquote>
<p>As was <a href="http://ussmariner.com/2009/09/25/game-154-mariners-at-blue-jays/#comment-351850" rel="nofollow">discussed here at the time</a>, Wakamatsu wanted to work on Saunders&#8217; hitting, and not in a game situation.    With the team out of the running for the division by that point, it didn&#8217;t really matter who he ran out in LF (other than maybe hurting Felix&#8217; Cy Young candidacy a little).  You can quibble with that decision, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t suggest they don&#8217;t want to give Saunders &#8220;everyday at bats&#8221; in the future when it matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwezilwoffa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dwezilwoffa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, from a KC fan, who lurks here alot, I have been tremendously impressed with the ability by Jack Z to improve your team.  It should give me hope that KC could do the same thing, but instead we pick up your leftovers.  Huzzah Meche, boo everyone else. 

Until proven otherwise Jack Z is a topshelf GM, who is going to make the Mariners a consistent and sustainable winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, from a KC fan, who lurks here alot, I have been tremendously impressed with the ability by Jack Z to improve your team.  It should give me hope that KC could do the same thing, but instead we pick up your leftovers.  Huzzah Meche, boo everyone else. </p>
<p>Until proven otherwise Jack Z is a topshelf GM, who is going to make the Mariners a consistent and sustainable winner.</p>
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		<title>By: diderot</title>
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		<dc:creator>diderot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So that makes them 1 for 11 on sentences making sense.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

TP,
Well, sure, point taken.  All I&#039;m saying is I still have a concern about the level of commitment to developing our players...as opposed to buying someone else&#039;s.  

Stockpiling &#039;free&#039; arms and letting the cream rise to the top?  Sure.  That makes perfect sense.

Making the best bet you can (Branyan) to fill the gaping hole at first?  Absolutely.

On the other hand, I still don&#039;t quite understand forcing Hall out to left when he clearly couldn&#039;t play there, injury or otherwise.  If that&#039;s a sign that Saunders isn&#039;t going to get everyday at bats, I worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So that makes them 1 for 11 on sentences making sense.</p></blockquote>
<p>TP,<br />
Well, sure, point taken.  All I&#8217;m saying is I still have a concern about the level of commitment to developing our players&#8230;as opposed to buying someone else&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Stockpiling &#8216;free&#8217; arms and letting the cream rise to the top?  Sure.  That makes perfect sense.</p>
<p>Making the best bet you can (Branyan) to fill the gaping hole at first?  Absolutely.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I still don&#8217;t quite understand forcing Hall out to left when he clearly couldn&#8217;t play there, injury or otherwise.  If that&#8217;s a sign that Saunders isn&#8217;t going to get everyday at bats, I worry.</p>
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