Comments on: The Jones Gold Glove thing

By: Breadbaker

Breadbaker — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:26:03 +0000

Bill James had a good article (I think it may be in Palmeiro’s entry in the Historical Baseball Abstract, 2nd edition) about how poorly designed the Gold Glove voting system is. Gold Gloves are nice pieces of hardware, but a lot of shortstops won them with their bats and the statistical correlation between any reasonable approximation of fielding quality and Gold Glove awards is minimal.

By: TranquilPsychosis

TranquilPsychosis — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:11:05 +0000

Is it against the rules to have Gold Glove bonuses included in contracts?

No, it’s not against the rules. Oddly enough, even jr had the clause written into his ’09 contract. (I laughed long and loud when I read that)

Cots doesn’t show that Guti has that in his contract though. So if he gets one, it’s all pride.

By: Alex

Alex — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:08:19 +0000

I’m fine with Gutierrez not winning. I’d rather have no one else understand how good he is, and the Mariners keep him forever! He can be underappreciated like Mike Cameron, and these Mariners will hold onto him.

By: Ike Clanton

Ike Clanton — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:50:26 +0000

Either/or, neither/nor.

Some days I think American grammar might cause me to kill myself.

By: joser

joser — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:37:34 +0000

C’mon, among former/current M’s outfielders, neither Gutierrez or Jones is as qualified for a Gold Glove as Raul Ibanez.

Of course I’m not talking about the supposed qualifications, but rather the real-life performance that evidentially get a player a Gold Glove: being the player with the best batting line for a position who embarrasses himself the least in the field.

By: msb

msb — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:30:12 +0000

Read Larry Stone on the subject of GG voting

By: Liam

Liam — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:12:27 +0000

Quick, someone check Luke Greinke’s myspace or facebook.

By: Paul B

Paul B — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:08:40 +0000

It would be nice if there was some sort of correlation between gold gloves and something like UZR.

But there’s not.

Instead, there’s probably a correlation between gold gloves and batting average, and gold gloves and how many years a player has won it before.

By: Liam

Liam — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:07:19 +0000

Also, I donâ€™t see why we should really get worked up about this if itâ€™s true. Itâ€™s like bemoaning the Oscars, or NBA officiating.

What about Hall of Fame voting?

By: ivan

ivan — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:52:21 +0000

Seems silly, but thanks very much for posting the link.