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		<title>By: PositivePaul</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/23/on-bringing-back-the-bus/comment-page-2/#comment-355676</link>
		<dc:creator>PositivePaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Pardon me, but didnâ€™t he come in a trade?&lt;/em&gt;

Right.  It was a trade he made after ones he wanted to make didn&#039;t pan out, and when other Free Agents didn&#039;t want his money.

&lt;em&gt;You have no way of knowing that this is how his mind functions.&lt;/em&gt;

I won&#039;t claim to know how his mind functions, but I did directly ask him (at FanFest) what the hell he was thinking. He admitted (off the mike) it wasn&#039;t his first choice, so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Pardon me, but didnâ€™t he come in a trade?</em></p>
<p>Right.  It was a trade he made after ones he wanted to make didn&#8217;t pan out, and when other Free Agents didn&#8217;t want his money.</p>
<p><em>You have no way of knowing that this is how his mind functions.</em></p>
<p>I won&#8217;t claim to know how his mind functions, but I did directly ask him (at FanFest) what the hell he was thinking. He admitted (off the mike) it wasn&#8217;t his first choice, so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor H</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/23/on-bringing-back-the-bus/comment-page-2/#comment-355667</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Iâ€™m just soooo glad we donâ€™t have to deal with the infamous â€œPlan Bâ€™sâ€ of Bavasi (i.e. when his main target isnâ€™t available, he takes the same offer to someone else â€“ See Ramirez, Horacio; Silva, Carlos et al.).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You have no way of knowing that this is how his mind functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Iâ€™m just soooo glad we donâ€™t have to deal with the infamous â€œPlan Bâ€™sâ€ of Bavasi (i.e. when his main target isnâ€™t available, he takes the same offer to someone else â€“ See Ramirez, Horacio; Silva, Carlos et al.).</p></blockquote>
<p>You have no way of knowing that this is how his mind functions.</p>
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		<title>By: TranquilPsychosis</title>
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		<dc:creator>TranquilPsychosis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;See Ramirez, Horacio&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Pardon me, but didn&#039;t he come in a trade?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>See Ramirez, Horacio</p></blockquote>
<p> Pardon me, but didn&#8217;t he come in a trade?</p>
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		<title>By: PositivePaul</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/11/23/on-bringing-back-the-bus/comment-page-2/#comment-355651</link>
		<dc:creator>PositivePaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking Dave&#039;s head would explode if they brought back Washburn. From what I know about Dave, Washburn&#039;s pretty much not one of his favorite players. I specifically remember some after dinner conversation I had with Dave about Washburn, and I tried to argue that Washburn wasn&#039;t entirely useless (though admitting he&#039;s nothing special), and Dave &amp; I agreed to disagree...

I&#039;m not a Washburn fan, but he might be useful under certain circumstances.  Hopefully it&#039;s like plan &quot;Q&quot; or later...

I&#039;m just soooo glad we don&#039;t have to deal with the infamous &quot;Plan B&#039;s&quot; of Bavasi (i.e. when his main target isn&#039;t available, he takes the same offer to someone else - See Ramirez, Horacio; Silva, Carlos et al.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking Dave&#8217;s head would explode if they brought back Washburn. From what I know about Dave, Washburn&#8217;s pretty much not one of his favorite players. I specifically remember some after dinner conversation I had with Dave about Washburn, and I tried to argue that Washburn wasn&#8217;t entirely useless (though admitting he&#8217;s nothing special), and Dave &amp; I agreed to disagree&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Washburn fan, but he might be useful under certain circumstances.  Hopefully it&#8217;s like plan &#8220;Q&#8221; or later&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just soooo glad we don&#8217;t have to deal with the infamous &#8220;Plan B&#8217;s&#8221; of Bavasi (i.e. when his main target isn&#8217;t available, he takes the same offer to someone else &#8211; See Ramirez, Horacio; Silva, Carlos et al.).</p>
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		<title>By: amnizu</title>
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		<dc:creator>amnizu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta say, I&#039;m with the thanks but no thanks crowd here.  I agree Washburn is a serviceable left handed starter that is at or slightly above MLB average.  Really, the team doesnâ€™t need any more of those, Z spent most of last season picking that type of player up on the cheap.  For the M&#039;s to improve they need to invest their payroll in players that provide the chance at above average MLB production.  I think the roster as it stands now is about a 80 to 84 win team (assuming Beltre leaves, and Guiti comes down to earth a little).  In my opinion Washburn does not improve the team enough to warrant his expenditure.  His salary is better spent elsewhere, even at 3 to 4 mil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta say, I&#8217;m with the thanks but no thanks crowd here.  I agree Washburn is a serviceable left handed starter that is at or slightly above MLB average.  Really, the team doesnâ€™t need any more of those, Z spent most of last season picking that type of player up on the cheap.  For the M&#8217;s to improve they need to invest their payroll in players that provide the chance at above average MLB production.  I think the roster as it stands now is about a 80 to 84 win team (assuming Beltre leaves, and Guiti comes down to earth a little).  In my opinion Washburn does not improve the team enough to warrant his expenditure.  His salary is better spent elsewhere, even at 3 to 4 mil.</p>
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		<title>By: PADJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PADJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as it&#039;s in vogue to do so, offer him a one year, incentive laden contract including an incentive to earn more by being the poster boy for clubhouse unity.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as it&#8217;s in vogue to do so, offer him a one year, incentive laden contract including an incentive to earn more by being the poster boy for clubhouse unity.  <img src='http://www.ussmariner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nathaniel dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathaniel dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;nathaniel dawson, nothing inherently wrong with an innings eater 5th starter but why would you want to waste budget on a guy who you already have on your roster. RRS, Snell, Vargas, Fister, and French&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t want to. I&#039;m not sure where you got the idea that I did, as I never said anything like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>nathaniel dawson, nothing inherently wrong with an innings eater 5th starter but why would you want to waste budget on a guy who you already have on your roster. RRS, Snell, Vargas, Fister, and French</p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to. I&#8217;m not sure where you got the idea that I did, as I never said anything like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but â€¦ Jon Heyman tells me that â€œKnee issues hurt him in Detroit, but he starred in Seattle before that. His great rapport with Mariners pitching coach Rick Adair make them a natural reunion.â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;
What else would Heyman say?  Isn&#039;t it Heyman&#039;s job to shill for Boras?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but â€¦ Jon Heyman tells me that â€œKnee issues hurt him in Detroit, but he starred in Seattle before that. His great rapport with Mariners pitching coach Rick Adair make them a natural reunion.â€</p></blockquote>
<p>What else would Heyman say?  Isn&#8217;t it Heyman&#8217;s job to shill for Boras?</p>
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		<title>By: rsrobinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>rsrobinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be okay with giving Washburn a one-year $6 million deal but no more than that and definitely not a multi-year deal.  Besides Felix, RRS is the only one that really looked like he earned a spot in the 2010 rotation.  It&#039;s a crapshoot predicting what we&#039;re going to get out of Morrow, Snell, French, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be okay with giving Washburn a one-year $6 million deal but no more than that and definitely not a multi-year deal.  Besides Felix, RRS is the only one that really looked like he earned a spot in the 2010 rotation.  It&#8217;s a crapshoot predicting what we&#8217;re going to get out of Morrow, Snell, French, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/11/20/free.agency/1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jon Heyman&lt;/a&gt; tells me that &quot;Knee issues hurt him in Detroit, but he starred in Seattle before that. His great rapport with Mariners pitching coach Rick Adair make them a natural reunion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but &#8230; <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/11/20/free.agency/1.html" rel="nofollow">Jon Heyman</a> tells me that &#8220;Knee issues hurt him in Detroit, but he starred in Seattle before that. His great rapport with Mariners pitching coach Rick Adair make them a natural reunion.&#8221;</p>
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