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		<title>By: littlesongs</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlesongs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really really really like this move. Of all the former Portland players bandied about this winter -- like Bay, Nady, et al -- Figgins is far and away the best fit for Seattle. I will have no trouble adjusting to loving Chone Figgins again.

Quite a few Portlanders remember cheering for Figgins back in &#039;98 when he played for the Rockies. Chone was already a pesky offensive spark plug and showed flashes of defensive brilliance too. He quickly became one of my favorite players.

We had the Rockies in &#039;98 because our beloved Beavers were stolen away taken to Salt Lake a few years before by a crummy owner. So, when Chone returned in a Buzz uniform in &#039;02 &amp; &#039;03 it was very painful. He made matters worse by humiliating our beloved Beavers on a regular basis.

Of course, it was just a matter of time before he became a full-time Angel and a regular pain in the Mariners&#039; ass too. I have always liked seeing him play, but after all these years of swinging between love and hate, the idea of having Figgins back in the NW playing for a team that I love makes me very happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really really really like this move. Of all the former Portland players bandied about this winter &#8212; like Bay, Nady, et al &#8212; Figgins is far and away the best fit for Seattle. I will have no trouble adjusting to loving Chone Figgins again.</p>
<p>Quite a few Portlanders remember cheering for Figgins back in &#8217;98 when he played for the Rockies. Chone was already a pesky offensive spark plug and showed flashes of defensive brilliance too. He quickly became one of my favorite players.</p>
<p>We had the Rockies in &#8217;98 because our beloved Beavers were stolen away taken to Salt Lake a few years before by a crummy owner. So, when Chone returned in a Buzz uniform in &#8217;02 &amp; &#8217;03 it was very painful. He made matters worse by humiliating our beloved Beavers on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Of course, it was just a matter of time before he became a full-time Angel and a regular pain in the Mariners&#8217; ass too. I have always liked seeing him play, but after all these years of swinging between love and hate, the idea of having Figgins back in the NW playing for a team that I love makes me very happy.</p>
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		<title>By: TumwaterMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>TumwaterMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should we all be thanking Kenji?  If he hadn&#039;t returned to Japan would the Mariners still make this deal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should we all be thanking Kenji?  If he hadn&#8217;t returned to Japan would the Mariners still make this deal?</p>
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		<title>By: just a fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>just a fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Any thoughts on the price dropping on Figgins? Hoping to leave room to sign N. Johnson and Harden still.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I know Dave budgeted his offseason plan for $95 million, but has there been any word on specifically what the budget is?

Figgins would put us around 80 million (a guess on the high end, I&#039;m sure Dave knows the real number). Thing is, unless they&#039;ve come out and said it, I wouldn&#039;t be shocked to see the M&#039;s push over 100 million. I don&#039;t see any reason to assume they couldn&#039;t afford Figgins along with, say, Johnson (or Delgado?), Harden and Lackey, if they really wanted to. We know they went over-budget to acquire Bedard. Among those four guys, Lackey seems like a guy Lincoln and Armstrong would increase the budget to sign.

Maybe they wouldn&#039;t do that, but it&#039;s not out of the realm of possibility, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Any thoughts on the price dropping on Figgins? Hoping to leave room to sign N. Johnson and Harden still.</p></blockquote>
<p>I know Dave budgeted his offseason plan for $95 million, but has there been any word on specifically what the budget is?</p>
<p>Figgins would put us around 80 million (a guess on the high end, I&#8217;m sure Dave knows the real number). Thing is, unless they&#8217;ve come out and said it, I wouldn&#8217;t be shocked to see the M&#8217;s push over 100 million. I don&#8217;t see any reason to assume they couldn&#8217;t afford Figgins along with, say, Johnson (or Delgado?), Harden and Lackey, if they really wanted to. We know they went over-budget to acquire Bedard. Among those four guys, Lackey seems like a guy Lincoln and Armstrong would increase the budget to sign.</p>
<p>Maybe they wouldn&#8217;t do that, but it&#8217;s not out of the realm of possibility, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: moyerLIVES</title>
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		<dc:creator>moyerLIVES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/mariners-on-verge-of-signing-chone-figgins.html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MLBTR&lt;/a&gt; says the price is coming down, currently at 4/35.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/12/mariners-on-verge-of-signing-chone-figgins.html#comments" rel="nofollow">MLBTR</a> says the price is coming down, currently at 4/35.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
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		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, if wins are still valued at about $4M per (this could go down if the market is really as soft as it is initially looking) then even a 3 WAR Figgins at $9M a year is a pretty good deal.
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Nice
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Thanks.  I like to drop &lt;i&gt;mots&lt;/i&gt; of varying &lt;i&gt;bon&lt;/i&gt;-ness into my longer posts for the same reason Van Halen always requested a bowl of M&amp;Ms of particular colors -- to see if folks are paying attention.  And to try to reward them if they are.

And because it amuses me, and I can&#039;t help myself.
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I heard that you can score runs without extra base hits. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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Heck, Rickey Henderson used to do it without any hits at all (walk, steal, FC advance to 3rd, FC score).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, if wins are still valued at about $4M per (this could go down if the market is really as soft as it is initially looking) then even a 3 WAR Figgins at $9M a year is a pretty good deal.</p>
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Nice
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<p>Thanks.  I like to drop <i>mots</i> of varying <i>bon</i>-ness into my longer posts for the same reason Van Halen always requested a bowl of M&amp;Ms of particular colors &#8212; to see if folks are paying attention.  And to try to reward them if they are.</p>
<p>And because it amuses me, and I can&#8217;t help myself.</p>
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I heard that you can score runs without extra base hits. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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<p>Heck, Rickey Henderson used to do it without any hits at all (walk, steal, FC advance to 3rd, FC score).</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree with Dave when he says, â€œFiggins isnâ€™t going to repeat his 2009 season again, but heâ€™s probably a +3 win player for 2010. . . â€&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unstated in that there&#039;s a decent chance (though not a probability) that he does better than that. At 4/36, that&#039;s not a bad price to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I agree with Dave when he says, â€œFiggins isnâ€™t going to repeat his 2009 season again, but heâ€™s probably a +3 win player for 2010. . . â€</p></blockquote>
<p>Unstated in that there&#8217;s a decent chance (though not a probability) that he does better than that. At 4/36, that&#8217;s not a bad price to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: stevie_j13</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevie_j13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the WAR, the defense, and the &quot;peskiness&quot; (could Figgins explode the Bloomquist grit-o-meter?), it&#039;s the walks that get me excited.  M&#039;s were dead last is BB% and OBP - we need guys on base!  Next up: someone to drive them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the WAR, the defense, and the &#8220;peskiness&#8221; (could Figgins explode the Bloomquist grit-o-meter?), it&#8217;s the walks that get me excited.  M&#8217;s were dead last is BB% and OBP &#8211; we need guys on base!  Next up: someone to drive them in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariner Fan in CO Exile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariner Fan in CO Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What do you mean â€œSure Figgins isnâ€™t as good as he was last yearâ€?

Unless I am missing something, we have not started the new season yet.&lt;/em&gt;

Banton, Figgins was a 6+ WAR player last year.  He&#039;s done that exactly zero other times in his career, and usually hovers somewhere between 2.5 and 3+.  It&#039;s possible he&#039;s turned some magical corner and will maintain this level of offense will hold up, but I don&#039;t really see it. 

I agree with Dave when he says, &quot;Figgins isnâ€™t going to repeat his 2009 season again, but heâ€™s probably a +3 win player for 2010. . . &quot;

That&#039;s something to be happy with given the flexibility we get along a reasonable price tag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What do you mean â€œSure Figgins isnâ€™t as good as he was last yearâ€?</p>
<p>Unless I am missing something, we have not started the new season yet.</em></p>
<p>Banton, Figgins was a 6+ WAR player last year.  He&#8217;s done that exactly zero other times in his career, and usually hovers somewhere between 2.5 and 3+.  It&#8217;s possible he&#8217;s turned some magical corner and will maintain this level of offense will hold up, but I don&#8217;t really see it. </p>
<p>I agree with Dave when he says, &#8220;Figgins isnâ€™t going to repeat his 2009 season again, but heâ€™s probably a +3 win player for 2010. . . &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s something to be happy with given the flexibility we get along a reasonable price tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What do you mean â€œSure Figgins isnâ€™t as good as he was last yearâ€?

Unless I am missing something, we have not started the new season yet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His performance last season is better than one might expect from a player with his actual level of talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What do you mean â€œSure Figgins isnâ€™t as good as he was last yearâ€?</p>
<p>Unless I am missing something, we have not started the new season yet.</p></blockquote>
<p>His performance last season is better than one might expect from a player with his actual level of talent.</p>
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		<title>By: robbbbbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>robbbbbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Rosenthal says deal is very close, for about 4/36.

I give it a thumbs up.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

F$&amp;% Yeah!  For a guy who&#039;s a 3 WAR player, that&#039;s an awesome deal.

Dave said earlier this season that the M&#039;s are going to need to squeeze extra runs out of their payroll than the standard $5M/win you get in free agency.  This is a great start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Rosenthal says deal is very close, for about 4/36.</p>
<p>I give it a thumbs up.</p></blockquote>
<p>F$&amp;% Yeah!  For a guy who&#8217;s a 3 WAR player, that&#8217;s an awesome deal.</p>
<p>Dave said earlier this season that the M&#8217;s are going to need to squeeze extra runs out of their payroll than the standard $5M/win you get in free agency.  This is a great start.</p>
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