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		<title>By: Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358196</link>
		<dc:creator>Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I shouldn&#039;t be so geeked about stuff like this, but any word on a press conference?

I do enjoy seeing the new players slip on the uni and hat. This time there is extra intrigue, as I&#039;m curious to see his body language and words after all the stuff in the press. Oh, and that he&#039;s really awesome, too.

He seemed to really want to stay in Philly, but I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll move past that and fall in love with our little slice of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t be so geeked about stuff like this, but any word on a press conference?</p>
<p>I do enjoy seeing the new players slip on the uni and hat. This time there is extra intrigue, as I&#8217;m curious to see his body language and words after all the stuff in the press. Oh, and that he&#8217;s really awesome, too.</p>
<p>He seemed to really want to stay in Philly, but I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll move past that and fall in love with our little slice of America.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358195</link>
		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved this little throw away note from Geoff Baker: &quot;For nearly a year, Trader Jack had talked with Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos about landing Halladay for the Mariners.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this little throw away note from Geoff Baker: &#8220;For nearly a year, Trader Jack had talked with Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos about landing Halladay for the Mariners.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Nelson</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358193</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lombardie360&lt;blockquote&gt;What if during the Lee/Halladay deal there were talks of â€œLook there is no way Billy Beene will trade me Brett Wallace. Get em for me, well keep talkin, and Ill tell Morrow to go get one of those new licenses or a passport as a starter.â€

Wallace bats Left and we need a 1b which hes supposed to becomeâ€¦.I dont know if Im crazy. Not very good at making this stuff up. Im just making my own Jack Z next move hypothesis to see if I can be the one to call it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;Helpful hint - and I don&#039;t know any other way to say this without being blunt.  If you&#039;re going to start hypothesizing, it helps if you start with a bit of base knowledge before throwing out ideas. Otherwise you end up exposing your lack of preparation.

So, why would you hypothesize that Beane would be unwilling to trade Wallace to the Mariners?  Beane is well known to be willing to talk with any team about any player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lombardie360<br />
<blockquote>What if during the Lee/Halladay deal there were talks of â€œLook there is no way Billy Beene will trade me Brett Wallace. Get em for me, well keep talkin, and Ill tell Morrow to go get one of those new licenses or a passport as a starter.â€</p>
<p>Wallace bats Left and we need a 1b which hes supposed to becomeâ€¦.I dont know if Im crazy. Not very good at making this stuff up. Im just making my own Jack Z next move hypothesis to see if I can be the one to call it.
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<p>Helpful hint &#8211; and I don&#8217;t know any other way to say this without being blunt.  If you&#8217;re going to start hypothesizing, it helps if you start with a bit of base knowledge before throwing out ideas. Otherwise you end up exposing your lack of preparation.</p>
<p>So, why would you hypothesize that Beane would be unwilling to trade Wallace to the Mariners?  Beane is well known to be willing to talk with any team about any player.</p>
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		<title>By: nick.h</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358184</link>
		<dc:creator>nick.h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If memory serves that was his last, or second to last start, before his DL stint.  I saw that too and it was horrifying.  But seeing what he did in years before he&#039;s got talent.  I still wouldn&#039;t want to have him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If memory serves that was his last, or second to last start, before his DL stint.  I saw that too and it was horrifying.  But seeing what he did in years before he&#8217;s got talent.  I still wouldn&#8217;t want to have him.</p>
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		<title>By: joser</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358183</link>
		<dc:creator>joser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Wang may scare away suitors because of last yearâ€™s injury.
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He scared me more when he was healthy.  Did you see the first couple of innings of that Fox Saturday game when he gave up 8 runs to Cleveland in the first couple of innings?  No thanks.</description>
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Wang may scare away suitors because of last yearâ€™s injury.
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<p>He scared me more when he was healthy.  Did you see the first couple of innings of that Fox Saturday game when he gave up 8 runs to Cleveland in the first couple of innings?  No thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattleken</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2009/12/16/what-this-trade-does/comment-page-4/#comment-358182</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattleken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the Jays are trying to move Overbay I can see the M&#039;s getting him basically for his 7M contract. He&#039;s be better than Capp with the bat and glove, is left-handed with an .800 OPS. He sucks vs lefties but has a .380+ OB% vs righties as is a nice fit for the new mariners with OB% and plus defense.

This understanding that the better options of Adrian Gonzalez and Prince Fielder are not at all likely. 

I would rather have Overbay for one year at 7M  and than 2 years Branyon or Johnson at 6M a year who are weak with the glove and are extremely fragile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Jays are trying to move Overbay I can see the M&#8217;s getting him basically for his 7M contract. He&#8217;s be better than Capp with the bat and glove, is left-handed with an .800 OPS. He sucks vs lefties but has a .380+ OB% vs righties as is a nice fit for the new mariners with OB% and plus defense.</p>
<p>This understanding that the better options of Adrian Gonzalez and Prince Fielder are not at all likely. </p>
<p>I would rather have Overbay for one year at 7M  and than 2 years Branyon or Johnson at 6M a year who are weak with the glove and are extremely fragile.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ancient Mariner</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ancient Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not news that Doumit isn&#039;t a very good catcher.  The point is, he could catch at need, which would make him a very useful player to have on the roster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not news that Doumit isn&#8217;t a very good catcher.  The point is, he could catch at need, which would make him a very useful player to have on the roster.</p>
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		<title>By: ClaytonMiles</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClaytonMiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for all the great perspective from Dave and DMZ. I am happy to see all the national exposure you have earned in the last two weeks. I promise I will start donating as soon as I can.
This really makes me likely to attend more games next season (9 last year). Who knows what move will happen next, but I am sure it will improve the team.
If some of Jr.&#039;s incentives are based on ticket sales, how much is he likely to benefit from Lee and Figgins - both in $ and wins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for all the great perspective from Dave and DMZ. I am happy to see all the national exposure you have earned in the last two weeks. I promise I will start donating as soon as I can.<br />
This really makes me likely to attend more games next season (9 last year). Who knows what move will happen next, but I am sure it will improve the team.<br />
If some of Jr.&#8217;s incentives are based on ticket sales, how much is he likely to benefit from Lee and Figgins &#8211; both in $ and wins?</p>
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		<title>By: nick.h</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick.h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk about Doumit, I just want to throw this out there and you can take it or leave it.  Last week at work one of the Pittsburgh Pirates showed up at work (I saw his union card... pretty cool, lol) and apprently Ryan isn&#039;t a very good catcher, and doesn&#039;t WANT to catch.  They&#039;re converting him to a RF.

In other news: what do we think about D. Lee if the Cubbies pick up part of that contract and he waives the no trade clause (and the Red Sea parts...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk about Doumit, I just want to throw this out there and you can take it or leave it.  Last week at work one of the Pittsburgh Pirates showed up at work (I saw his union card&#8230; pretty cool, lol) and apprently Ryan isn&#8217;t a very good catcher, and doesn&#8217;t WANT to catch.  They&#8217;re converting him to a RF.</p>
<p>In other news: what do we think about D. Lee if the Cubbies pick up part of that contract and he waives the no trade clause (and the Red Sea parts&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Heâ€™s not going to come cheap from K.C. They need all the good, cheap players they can get right now, and he holds quite a bit of promise to break out. Heâ€™s the exact kind of player they would want to keep around right now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, I probably underestimated his perceived value to KC. But it seemed like they soured on him quite a bit last year, and between the trade for Fields and Billy Butler&#039;s presence, it seems like they have other priorities on the corners.

A permanent move to 1B would probably do him a lot of good, since his glove at 3B doesn&#039;t seem up to it. But I&#039;m veering way off topic now, so I&#039;ll stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Heâ€™s not going to come cheap from K.C. They need all the good, cheap players they can get right now, and he holds quite a bit of promise to break out. Heâ€™s the exact kind of player they would want to keep around right now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, I probably underestimated his perceived value to KC. But it seemed like they soured on him quite a bit last year, and between the trade for Fields and Billy Butler&#8217;s presence, it seems like they have other priorities on the corners.</p>
<p>A permanent move to 1B would probably do him a lot of good, since his glove at 3B doesn&#8217;t seem up to it. But I&#8217;m veering way off topic now, so I&#8217;ll stop.</p>
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