Comments on: First Base Options

By: Kazinski

Kazinski — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 05:45:26 +0000

You get that Bradley’s a head case and can’t stay healthy, right?

I get that he is a risk, but a risk worth taking given his production and cost.

I also get that Cabrera is drunk and unreliable. You get that committing 120m to someone that clocked in a blood alcohol level of .26 the morning of a critical game in a pennant race, which his team ultimately coughed up, is just crazy, right?

By: Leroy Stanton

Leroy Stanton — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:43:30 +0000

Kazinski,

Maybe I misunderstood your earlier post. Did you think I was giving up too much for Cabrera? I thought it wasn’t enough.

You get that Bradley’s a headcase and can’t stay healthy, right?

By: Leroy Stanton

Leroy Stanton — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:34:50 +0000

Carlos Silva + $6MM = $31MM

By: Kazinski

Kazinski — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 04:17:39 +0000

Bradley 2007-2009 OPS – .902 1016AB.
Cabrera 2007-2009 OPS – .931 1815AB.

Bradley 2010-2011 cost – Carlos Silva + 6M.
Cabrera 2010-2011 cost – 40m.

Bradley 2012 – 2014 commitment – 0M.
Cabrera 2012 – 2014 commitment – 80M.

By: ClaytonMiles

ClaytonMiles — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:26:54 +0000

Cabrera is great, but his contract seems too long and too big for Jack Z.
I think there is nothing wrong with letting the market come to the Mariners. Perhaps waiting will give us the best out of a 1B-SP-RP signing and then later we can swing the best trade possible, because you know we’ll be front and center for it.

By: moethedog

moethedog — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:11:59 +0000

Loney has seen progressively declining BA’s, Slg%, OBP, BABIP, and ISO in his three (or 2.5) years as a regular.

During this last year…which was his worst production-wise…pitchers threw more fastballs and sliders and fewer curves and change-ups….

Looks like pitchers have caught up with his strengths ….

He’s a .290/.350/.440 type of guy. Carp will give you that. Forfree.

Keith

By: Leroy Stanton

Leroy Stanton — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:43:16 +0000

But your trade scenario has us giving up Bradley, who can be penciled in for about 3 WAR.

There’s a lot of ways to get 3 WAR and Bradley is possibly the worst (unless you get him for Silva). If the Tigers would take Bradley, then that would make Cabrera cost ~$9MM in 2010 and 2011. And then you could explore other LF options or use Saunders.

And there is no way we can afford both Bradley and Cabrera. In fact there is no way we can afford Cabrera even without Bradley.

Since I don’t know what the budget is I guess you might be right.

By: Kazinski

Kazinski — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:32:59 +0000

But the 3 extra WAR (assuming Overbay at 2 WAR) goes a long way for this yearâ€™s team.

But your trade scenario has us giving up Bradley, who can be penciled in for about 3 WAR. And there is no way we can afford both Bradley and Cabrera. In fact there is no way we can afford Cabrera even without Bradley.

By: Leroy Stanton

Leroy Stanton — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:51:12 +0000

Not to mention you donâ€™t get Cabrera just for the price of his contract â€” the trade to obtain him further strips the farm.

But you might be able to get him because of the price of his contract. And we don’t know what the budget is.

By: joser

joser — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:32:52 +0000

Weâ€™ve been pretty spoiled with Guti and Lee signings giving us that type of leverage, but Iâ€™m not exactly sure thatâ€™s a long-term sustainable ability without a deeper farm system than we currently have.

Not to mention you don’t get Cabrera just for the price of his contract — the trade to obtain him further strips the farm.