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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/02/23/jose-lopez-third-baseman/comment-page-2/#comment-364736</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;d like to see us all back off on trying to treat everything that the team does like the first move in a twelve-move-deep chess gambit.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, Jack is awesome and very very good at what he does; but some, maybe even most, of the things the team does should be taken at face value. This move strikes me as one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;d like to see us all back off on trying to treat everything that the team does like the first move in a twelve-move-deep chess gambit.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Jack is awesome and very very good at what he does; but some, maybe even most, of the things the team does should be taken at face value. This move strikes me as one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: eponymous coward</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/02/23/jose-lopez-third-baseman/comment-page-2/#comment-364732</link>
		<dc:creator>eponymous coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 07:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I speculate that the Ms have decided that Ackley is ready to step right in at 2B; and Lopez has become expendable.
They are playing Lopez at 3B because a potential trading partner has asked them to.&lt;/em&gt;

Dustin Ackley has played precisely ZERO innings of pro ball at 2B outside of Peoria, and here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010931615_dustin_ackley_and_other_draftp.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;relevant quote from someone&lt;/a&gt;...

&quot;There&#039;s a lot of bucks that stop right here, but you have to have the input and information. I&#039;ve experienced this in my past. A good example, there was a situation with a club in the past where we brought a player to the big leagues where he had never played anywhere else but the position he was drafted at. Now all of a sudden, he gets to the big leagues, and you have a reasonably good big league club. So often, a young player gets to the big leagues, he&#039;s trying to fin&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;d his way. A starter ends up in the bullpen. An infielder might end up in the outfield. Vice versa. What ends up happening, if the first time a person gets put in a position he&#039;s never played before, and it&#039;s at the major league level, it&#039;s tough. That&#039;s not an easy thing to do. This game is tough enough to play up here, let alone you&#039;re giving a kid an internship at the big league level.&quot;

&lt;em&gt;I have never been a fan of Lopez and anything that gets him out of a Mariner uniform is a good thing.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;ve never been a fan of people who trash baseball players based on very cursory and shallow biases. Body language? Really?

Lopez is a league-average 2B (defense AND offense). That&#039;s fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I speculate that the Ms have decided that Ackley is ready to step right in at 2B; and Lopez has become expendable.<br />
They are playing Lopez at 3B because a potential trading partner has asked them to.</em></p>
<p>Dustin Ackley has played precisely ZERO innings of pro ball at 2B outside of Peoria, and here&#8217;s a <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thehotstoneleague/2010931615_dustin_ackley_and_other_draftp.html" rel="nofollow">relevant quote from someone</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a lot of bucks that stop right here, but you have to have the input and information. I&#8217;ve experienced this in my past. A good example, there was a situation with a club in the past where we brought a player to the big leagues where he had never played anywhere else but the position he was drafted at. Now all of a sudden, he gets to the big leagues, and you have a reasonably good big league club. So often, a young player gets to the big leagues, he&#8217;s trying to fin<em></em><em></em>d his way. A starter ends up in the bullpen. An infielder might end up in the outfield. Vice versa. What ends up happening, if the first time a person gets put in a position he&#8217;s never played before, and it&#8217;s at the major league level, it&#8217;s tough. That&#8217;s not an easy thing to do. This game is tough enough to play up here, let alone you&#8217;re giving a kid an internship at the big league level.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>I have never been a fan of Lopez and anything that gets him out of a Mariner uniform is a good thing.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been a fan of people who trash baseball players based on very cursory and shallow biases. Body language? Really?</p>
<p>Lopez is a league-average 2B (defense AND offense). That&#8217;s fine.</p>
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		<title>By: DerikH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerikH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the M&#039;s are really auditioning Lopez at third base because a potential trade suitor asked them to. I could see that as a possibility since Lopez trade rumors have been rampant since 2008. 

Lopez seems open to playing third base, but not quite as flexible as Figgins, who has said from the start he is willing to play anywhere so long as it helps the team win. 

I have never been a fan of Lopez and anything that gets him out of a Mariner uniform is a good thing. I realize that he is probably our biggest bat, but his body language on the field is lazy and his plate discipline is non existent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the M&#8217;s are really auditioning Lopez at third base because a potential trade suitor asked them to. I could see that as a possibility since Lopez trade rumors have been rampant since 2008. </p>
<p>Lopez seems open to playing third base, but not quite as flexible as Figgins, who has said from the start he is willing to play anywhere so long as it helps the team win. </p>
<p>I have never been a fan of Lopez and anything that gets him out of a Mariner uniform is a good thing. I realize that he is probably our biggest bat, but his body language on the field is lazy and his plate discipline is non existent.</p>
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		<title>By: John D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Kazinski hit on something with the last point: sure seems like a move to add to Lopezâ€™s trade value. Or, as I am hoping, to answer questions for a specific partner Z already has in mind. 

Is anybody willing to offer speculation on teams that might be interested in seeing Lopez at third?&lt;/em&gt;

   I speculate that the Ms have decided that Ackley is ready to step right in at 2B; and Lopez has become expendable.
   They are playing Lopez at 3B because a potential trading partner has asked them to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Kazinski hit on something with the last point: sure seems like a move to add to Lopezâ€™s trade value. Or, as I am hoping, to answer questions for a specific partner Z already has in mind. </p>
<p>Is anybody willing to offer speculation on teams that might be interested in seeing Lopez at third?</em></p>
<p>   I speculate that the Ms have decided that Ackley is ready to step right in at 2B; and Lopez has become expendable.<br />
   They are playing Lopez at 3B because a potential trading partner has asked them to.</p>
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		<title>By: jjracoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjracoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players donâ€™t generally â€œlearnâ€ patience at Lopezâ€™s age. It can happen, but itâ€™s the exception, not the rule.

At least Lopez is young enough to still learn as he is just entering the peak years of his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players donâ€™t generally â€œlearnâ€ patience at Lopezâ€™s age. It can happen, but itâ€™s the exception, not the rule.</p>
<p>At least Lopez is young enough to still learn as he is just entering the peak years of his career.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyway, this seems right up Jack Z and Wakâ€™s alley, and I wouldnâ€™t make too much of it. It never hurts to know your 2B can slider over to 3B in a pinch, and vice versa, especially when you only have one backup infielder.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, if it&#039;s spring training, I really don&#039;t think it&#039;s a problem. 

Too, you&#039;re keeping your vets engaged by having them experiment (and that&#039;s what many vets do in spring training--experiment, try out new things and expand their repertoire).

And, finally, you&#039;re really establishing an organizational philosophy of flexibility by having your established vets do it or experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Anyway, this seems right up Jack Z and Wakâ€™s alley, and I wouldnâ€™t make too much of it. It never hurts to know your 2B can slider over to 3B in a pinch, and vice versa, especially when you only have one backup infielder.
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<p>Yeah, if it&#8217;s spring training, I really don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a problem. </p>
<p>Too, you&#8217;re keeping your vets engaged by having them experiment (and that&#8217;s what many vets do in spring training&#8211;experiment, try out new things and expand their repertoire).</p>
<p>And, finally, you&#8217;re really establishing an organizational philosophy of flexibility by having your established vets do it or experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: msb</title>
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		<dc:creator>msb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Itâ€™s not necessarily weak â€” it was strong enough for the outfield before it needed to be surgically repaired.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and, to use Alex&#039; old line, Ackley doesn&#039;t have his &#039;man strength&#039; yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Itâ€™s not necessarily weak â€” it was strong enough for the outfield before it needed to be surgically repaired.</p></blockquote>
<p>and, to use Alex&#8217; old line, Ackley doesn&#8217;t have his &#8216;man strength&#8217; yet</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Nye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Nye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Players don&#039;t generally &quot;learn&quot; patience at Lopez&#039;s age. It can happen, but it&#039;s the exception, not the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Players don&#8217;t generally &#8220;learn&#8221; patience at Lopez&#8217;s age. It can happen, but it&#8217;s the exception, not the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: jjracoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jjracoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you give up on Lopez becoming more patient at the plate, look at Bradleys first few years. He had the same problem but is now considered at least by Seattle to be an OBP type of player. 

Only issue I could see with this &quot;try out&quot; for Lopez is with Figgins at 2nd will Ackley get any chance to play 2nd this spring??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you give up on Lopez becoming more patient at the plate, look at Bradleys first few years. He had the same problem but is now considered at least by Seattle to be an OBP type of player. </p>
<p>Only issue I could see with this &#8220;try out&#8221; for Lopez is with Figgins at 2nd will Ackley get any chance to play 2nd this spring??</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 07:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jose Lopez said that he didn&#039;t want to move to first base was he thinking of the value it would have on his next free agent contract or his comfort level? 

It can make all the sense in the world for Raul Ibanez to DH, but he would rather play the field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jose Lopez said that he didn&#8217;t want to move to first base was he thinking of the value it would have on his next free agent contract or his comfort level? </p>
<p>It can make all the sense in the world for Raul Ibanez to DH, but he would rather play the field.</p>
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