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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380521</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 16:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Cockrell was a scapegoat.  You can&#039;t apply that word to a person who is unquestionably the biggest problem on the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Cockrell was a scapegoat.  You can&#8217;t apply that word to a person who is unquestionably the biggest problem on the team.</p>
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		<title>By: jkcmason</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380495</link>
		<dc:creator>jkcmason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 01:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response:
http://seattlemarination.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/and-the-scapegoat-for-the-slow-start-is%e2%80%a6-ken-griffey-jr/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response:<br />
<a href="http://seattlemarination.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/and-the-scapegoat-for-the-slow-start-is%e2%80%a6-ken-griffey-jr/" rel="nofollow">http://seattlemarination.wordpress.com/2010/05/20/and-the-scapegoat-for-the-slow-start-is%e2%80%a6-ken-griffey-jr/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380487</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 00:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To add one more thing, while some members of the lineup have not produced thus far there is good reason to believe that they will by years end. The same can&#039;t be said about Griffey. He wasn&#039;t projected to be any good this year and has managed to be even worse than the most negative of projections. At 40 years old with bad knees platooning in a premium offensive position, it should be obvious to anyone why he needs to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add one more thing, while some members of the lineup have not produced thus far there is good reason to believe that they will by years end. The same can&#8217;t be said about Griffey. He wasn&#8217;t projected to be any good this year and has managed to be even worse than the most negative of projections. At 40 years old with bad knees platooning in a premium offensive position, it should be obvious to anyone why he needs to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380476</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 00:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think that Dave hasn&#039;t criticized anyone else this year for their poor performance, then you clearly haven&#039;t been paying attention. 

Matt Tuiasosopo, Sean White and Mike Sweeney would be joining Ken Griffey Jr. in being removed from the roster if Dave had his way. Rob Johnson has been routinely ridiculed for his inability to catch the baseball (and hit).   

Some of the other unproductive players get more of a break because they play a defensive position everyday.  Jose Lopez in particular has been phenomenal with the glove thus far, both with the eye and UZR.  For a player whose only role on the team is to hit and they&#039;re limiting his at-bats to RHP to give him the best chance to succeed, a lot is going to be expected.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This roster just doesn’t play well together Dave. Why don’t you start ripping Jack Z and criticize the bejesus out of him because he pretty much has blown the window of opportunity for this season, according to you and your USSM mates. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
See this recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/18/process-and-results/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think that Dave hasn&#8217;t criticized anyone else this year for their poor performance, then you clearly haven&#8217;t been paying attention. </p>
<p>Matt Tuiasosopo, Sean White and Mike Sweeney would be joining Ken Griffey Jr. in being removed from the roster if Dave had his way. Rob Johnson has been routinely ridiculed for his inability to catch the baseball (and hit).   </p>
<p>Some of the other unproductive players get more of a break because they play a defensive position everyday.  Jose Lopez in particular has been phenomenal with the glove thus far, both with the eye and UZR.  For a player whose only role on the team is to hit and they&#8217;re limiting his at-bats to RHP to give him the best chance to succeed, a lot is going to be expected.</p>
<blockquote><p>This roster just doesn’t play well together Dave. Why don’t you start ripping Jack Z and criticize the bejesus out of him because he pretty much has blown the window of opportunity for this season, according to you and your USSM mates. </p></blockquote>
<p>See this recent <a href="http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/18/process-and-results/" rel="nofollow">post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Holmes</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380438</link>
		<dc:creator>Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 22:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - this is the stupidest thing you have ever written.  Really though, fantastic job of singling out Jr and bashing him for 7 paragraphs.  That&#039;s a great way of showing &#039;respect&#039; to the man who made all of us on here Seattle Mariners fans.  

Really Dave, why crucify Griffey when our entire roster has been absolutely putrid?  Griffey doesn&#039;t even play everyday yet you rip him like it&#039;s your job and you have nothing else to write about.  

You can&#039;t single out anyone else on the roster who is batting piss poor while playing everyday?  Figgins? Lopez? Kotchman? SS?  Moore/Johnson?  Our roster isn&#039;t getting it done.  For you to bash Griffey and no one else makes no sense.  How about the bullpen?  How many times have we given games away this season.  10+. Yet all you can do is continue to trash Jr.  

Say the Mariners didn&#039;t have Jr on the roster this season... How many more games would this team have won at this point in the season?  

This roster just doesn&#039;t play well together Dave.  Why don&#039;t you start ripping Jack Z and criticize the bejesus out of him because he pretty much has blown the window of opportunity for this season, according to you and your USSM mates.  

You should be embarrassed for posting your 7 paragraph Griffey Jr &#039;respect&#039; bash.  Ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; this is the stupidest thing you have ever written.  Really though, fantastic job of singling out Jr and bashing him for 7 paragraphs.  That&#8217;s a great way of showing &#8216;respect&#8217; to the man who made all of us on here Seattle Mariners fans.  </p>
<p>Really Dave, why crucify Griffey when our entire roster has been absolutely putrid?  Griffey doesn&#8217;t even play everyday yet you rip him like it&#8217;s your job and you have nothing else to write about.  </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t single out anyone else on the roster who is batting piss poor while playing everyday?  Figgins? Lopez? Kotchman? SS?  Moore/Johnson?  Our roster isn&#8217;t getting it done.  For you to bash Griffey and no one else makes no sense.  How about the bullpen?  How many times have we given games away this season.  10+. Yet all you can do is continue to trash Jr.  </p>
<p>Say the Mariners didn&#8217;t have Jr on the roster this season&#8230; How many more games would this team have won at this point in the season?  </p>
<p>This roster just doesn&#8217;t play well together Dave.  Why don&#8217;t you start ripping Jack Z and criticize the bejesus out of him because he pretty much has blown the window of opportunity for this season, according to you and your USSM mates.  </p>
<p>You should be embarrassed for posting your 7 paragraph Griffey Jr &#8216;respect&#8217; bash.  Ass.</p>
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		<title>By: ima-zeliever</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380191</link>
		<dc:creator>ima-zeliever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am becoming a fan of the Yankees.

No, I would still root for the M&#039;s over the Yankees, but I am a fan of the Yankee philosophy: WIN.  No player(s) are more important than that simple goal. 

The Mariners on the other hand make it &quot;complicated.&quot; As a fan, I am tired of it.  I think the problem is Chuck Armstrong.  It is understandable for fans to have idolized players and have unreasonable emotional attachments to them.  For the front office to act in this way is ridiculous.  If this is true, the M&#039;s will never win a World Series as long as Armstrong is the President or he learns that his job and everyone&#039;s job in the organization is to win baseball games.  How about instead of a call for Junior to go away, we deal with the real problem and that is that the M&#039;s philosophy is wacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am becoming a fan of the Yankees.</p>
<p>No, I would still root for the M&#8217;s over the Yankees, but I am a fan of the Yankee philosophy: WIN.  No player(s) are more important than that simple goal. </p>
<p>The Mariners on the other hand make it &#8220;complicated.&#8221; As a fan, I am tired of it.  I think the problem is Chuck Armstrong.  It is understandable for fans to have idolized players and have unreasonable emotional attachments to them.  For the front office to act in this way is ridiculous.  If this is true, the M&#8217;s will never win a World Series as long as Armstrong is the President or he learns that his job and everyone&#8217;s job in the organization is to win baseball games.  How about instead of a call for Junior to go away, we deal with the real problem and that is that the M&#8217;s philosophy is wacked.</p>
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		<title>By: Idaho M</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380183</link>
		<dc:creator>Idaho M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 18:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On this point I am in complete agreement with the blog host. I wouldnt trade Guti for any other centerfielder in baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this point I am in complete agreement with the blog host. I wouldnt trade Guti for any other centerfielder in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: downwarddog</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380145</link>
		<dc:creator>downwarddog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 14:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea. Quit going to the games. That&#039;ll show &#039;em. Maybe they&#039;ll cut payroll another 6 or 8 million in 2011 and you can keep bleating about &lt;em&gt;coulda shoulda woulda&lt;/em&gt;. Typical Seattle &quot;fans&quot;: Jump on the bandwagon when they win. Jump off when they lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea. Quit going to the games. That&#8217;ll show &#8216;em. Maybe they&#8217;ll cut payroll another 6 or 8 million in 2011 and you can keep bleating about <em>coulda shoulda woulda</em>. Typical Seattle &#8220;fans&#8221;: Jump on the bandwagon when they win. Jump off when they lose.</p>
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		<title>By: clandon</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380142</link>
		<dc:creator>clandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 13:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that the M&#039;s season is effectively on cruise control, one of the few remaining elements of high drama is whether or not Griffey might be able to break out of his slump before the FO finally acquiesces on their position.  How ironic is it that this April roster mistake is now May&#039;s most interesting storyline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that the M&#8217;s season is effectively on cruise control, one of the few remaining elements of high drama is whether or not Griffey might be able to break out of his slump before the FO finally acquiesces on their position.  How ironic is it that this April roster mistake is now May&#8217;s most interesting storyline?</p>
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		<title>By: PackBob</title>
		<link>http://www.ussmariner.com/2010/05/19/respect/comment-page-3/#comment-380129</link>
		<dc:creator>PackBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 08:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely, 110%, right on the mark.

I really dislike having the pie of Griffey&#039;s legacy twisted around in my face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, 110%, right on the mark.</p>
<p>I really dislike having the pie of Griffey&#8217;s legacy twisted around in my face.</p>
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