Edgar pre-game

DMZ · October 26, 2004 at 11:13 am · Filed Under Mariners 

According to reports in both the PI and Times, Edgar will win the 2004 Roberto Clemente Award, which recognizes “the player who best exemplifies the game of baseball, sportsmanship, community involvement and the individual’s contribution to his team.” (from MLB.com)

If that’s the case, we should see a pre-game ceremony before tonight’s Game 3 of the World Series.


30 Responses to “Edgar pre-game”

  1. Grant on October 26th, 2004 12:01 pm

    A couple of things, both off topic:

    Best case scenario I can only see us getting two big bats in free agency, if Beltran is one (not to say that he will be, but hypothetically) which do you guys think would be the better 1B-3B combo Ibanez and Glaus or Delgado or Sexson and Leone.
    Also I been trying to find trying to find some options for SS that would be an upgrade over Lopez, but that we could sign for about 2 mil or less, what about Pokey Reese? Do you think he would be more valuable next year htan Lopez, does anyone have any other ideas?

  2. IgnatiusReilly on October 26th, 2004 12:27 pm

    In true Edgar fashion…already overlooked on post #1. A sweet deal for Edgar, and it is nice that it will be in St. Louis where the fans appreciate a good player, even if they are from another team.

  3. Ryan on October 26th, 2004 12:40 pm

    Heh. Looking forward to it.

    The next question is: will Edgar win the Edgar Award? (Probably not…)

  4. Kevin on October 26th, 2004 12:43 pm

    It’s worth noting that Moyer won this award last year. Having a clubhouse full of nice guys has SOME advantages.


  5. PositivePaul on October 26th, 2004 1:24 pm

    I suspect that Travis Hafner will win the Edgar award this year. Bucky next year???

  6. Troy on October 26th, 2004 1:43 pm

    What, pray tell, is the Edgar award? Best DH?

  7. brain on October 26th, 2004 1:51 pm

    Troy – It was announced at Edgar’s retirement ceremony by Bud “Have I Got A Car For You” Selig. The DH of the year award is now called “The Edgar Martinez Award.”

  8. Troy on October 26th, 2004 1:54 pm

    Thanks brain. Not sure how I missed that. Good gesture.

  9. Harry Teasley on October 26th, 2004 2:36 pm

    Grant, the official M’s site as a Q&A up that is not encouraging regarding acquisitions like Beltran. It also answers a question from a fan who thinks Mo Vaughn might be worth a flier, so it was a depressing read all around. It read to me like a “the M’s aren’t doing anything in the off season” primer.

  10. David J Corcoran on October 26th, 2004 2:43 pm

    If we sign Mo Vaughn and Barry Larkin as our “big bats”, I will be a very depressed individual.
    I will have to question my fan-dom, seriously.

    Nothing against Larkin, I love the guy, but he is NOT our “big bat” that we have been whining about for a couple years now.

  11. IgnatiusReilly on October 26th, 2004 3:02 pm

    FINE! Be off topic. But now that you’ve made me read that Q&A, I’m banging my head on the desk reading more defending of a guy with a 4.96 ERA. Run support? Yeah, well in theory, I could win 20 games in the majors with the proper run support.

  12. Evan on October 26th, 2004 3:04 pm

    Seriously? Mo Vaughn? The man can’t even walk. The only way he’d be ready to play next year is if he’d had his knees replaced in 2002

  13. DMZ on October 26th, 2004 3:18 pm

    Replaced by some kind of bionic super-knees.

  14. Cap on October 26th, 2004 3:23 pm

    Have I got a knee for you!

  15. Conor Glassey on October 26th, 2004 3:25 pm

    That’s awesome about Edgar!

    As far as the Jim Street mailbag goes, those things should only be read for comedic value. I like this question…

    I have recently heard that Bret Boone, Eddie Guardado, Ron Villone and Dan Wilson can declare free agency this year. If one of these players officially leaves the Mariners, what will the team try to do to fix that gap? — Sam K., Seattle

    Boone and Guardado are signed through next season and therefore can’t become free agents at the end of the World Series. However, Villone and Wilson are eligible for free agency and Mariners management is expected to make contract offers to both of them. The versatile Villone was selected as the team’s Pitcher of the Year by the Seattle chapter of the Baseball Writers Association of America and Wilson remains one of the top defensive catchers in the Majors. Perhaps more importantly, both have said they would like to return to the Mariners in ’05.

    Oh no…what would we ever do without Dan Wilson and Ron “Pitcher of the Year” Villone?!? Commending Villone for his versatility is like commending me for my versatility as a cook. Sure, I can cook you breakfast, lunch or dinner – but it doesn’t matter what time I cook for you, it’s still going to taste like crap! And the part at the end had me laughing out loud. I would to note that, although I can’t hit either, I too would really love to play for the Mariners. Does that count for anything?

  16. PositivePaul on October 26th, 2004 3:35 pm

    Doesn’t Jim Street live next door to Bob Finnegan???

    I still find it amazing, as Ignatius pointed out, that The Edgar is yet again overshadowed. Okay by him, I’m sure, but still…

    “Good gesture” (as per Troy in #8) — that wins my nomination for understatement of the year.

    It’s only the most incredible tribute ever given to any Seattle player. EVER. I darn near balled my eyes out when they announced that during the ceremony. How befitting an honor is that upon our Gar!

  17. Aaron on October 26th, 2004 3:56 pm

    And what happens to the pre-game ceremony if the game is rained out?

  18. JPWood on October 26th, 2004 3:58 pm

    I won’t say I told you so… Yes I will.
    Almost two days ago. It got no comment then, and I can’t believe anyone on this link thinks that Street music (who used to work for the PI, not the Fii-Times) is more interesting than EDGAR! winning the Clemente award.
    I can’t imagine the emotional roller coaster he and his family will be on as they watch their first WS game live and getting celebrated for just showing up.
    Hats off to the one and only.

  19. Jon Wells on October 26th, 2004 4:08 pm

    I agree 100% that reading Street’s mailbag is usually a waste of time but his answer to the final question was worth reading, where he uncharacteristically gives it to a fan who says Johnny O got a “bad deal”. Street and I never seem to agree on much but his response was pretty close to what I would have said…

    Do you think there is a chance for John Olerud to return to the Mariners? I think he got a “bad deal” this year. One “off” year is reason to let go one of the best veteran players and fan favorites. — Karen E., Stanwood, Wash.

    Bad deal? He was paid $7 million this season, drove in 22 runs in 78 games for the Mariners, then rejected a trade that would have sent him to the Giants for veteran first baseman J.T. Snow. Olerud is a wonderful person, but if he — and other veterans — had performed to their capabilities this past season, he wouldn’t have been released and the Mariners wouldn’t have finished in last place. As for him returning to the Mariners, that appears to be highly unlikely right now.

  20. PositivePaul on October 26th, 2004 4:14 pm

    What’s the old adage — something about even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while…

    Gosh, it chokes me to continue this OT discussion, and swamp out ‘Gar…

    An idea for a new thread?

    Getting back to ‘Gar — it’s got to be HUGE for him to be honored with the Clemente. If New-Years’ eve 1972 hadn’t happened, you think it would’ve been Clemente there alongside Cepeda at Edgar’s bash? Youbetcha!

    So, any chance that his fellow PR-native (okay so ‘Gar was born in NY, still he grew up in PR) Carlos Beltran would have any inkling to come in and take over for The Edgar??? That would be sweet!

  21. Evan on October 26th, 2004 4:22 pm

    Edgar could be a great tool for the M’s in any attempt to woo a Puerto Rican FA.

    I would argue that many of our “veterans” did perform to the level of their abilities. Their abilities are just declining.

  22. grr on October 26th, 2004 5:16 pm

    Looks like he’s not in the pregame show, unless they’re doing it after the lineups are introduced.

  23. Jeremy on October 26th, 2004 6:33 pm

    During the top of the 3rd inning, they showed a clip of Edgar receiving the Clemente Award before the game.

    And one thing’s for sure, I’m going to a game in St. Louis next year. St. Louis isn’t too far of a trip for me to make. In addition, 2005 is the final season of Busch Stadium. The Cardinals will have a new ballpark in 2006.

  24. austinspace on October 26th, 2004 6:37 pm

    Yay! Just showed the briefest excerpt of the ceremony, then Edgar and fam live in the stands. And did you hear what McCarver said about him? I’m stunned an old NL guy would say it!

  25. John in NV on October 26th, 2004 8:59 pm

    Missed it. What did he say?

  26. John Hawkins on October 26th, 2004 10:17 pm

    There are a lot of reasons to stick pins in a Bud Selig voodoo doll, but I will give him credit for this one thing – he wants to see Edgar get in the Hall, and he’s doing everything he can to convince the writers to put him there.

    Not something I would’ve expected to say, but way to go Bud.

  27. Jon Wells on October 27th, 2004 1:10 am

    Off topic post here but important nevertheless — Bryan Price will be a part of Mike Hargrove’s staff. Glad they made a quick decision — esp. since they made it before Arizona decided whether to hire Melvin (the M’s had said they’d probably let Price out of his contract if Melvin got the AZ job and he wanted Price…)


  28. msb on October 27th, 2004 9:23 am

    “And did you hear what McCarver said about him? I’m stunned an old NL guy would say it!– Comment by austinspace — 10/26/2004 @ 6:37 pm

    “Missed it. What did he say?–Comment by John in NV — 10/26/2004 @ 8:59 pm

    that Edgar, as essentially the first full-time DH deserves to be in the Hall…

  29. petec on October 27th, 2004 9:23 am


    You “balled” your eyes out? You must be very flexible! (Sorry, couldn’t resist!)

  30. tyler on October 27th, 2004 9:52 am

    per 15, Connor…

    that may have been the funniest thing i’ve ever read on an M’s weblog. (and there have been some classics.)

    not every day i start cracking up at the computer with my class taking a test…. “what’s so funny, mr. j?”

    “Wit and sarcasm. you wouldn’t understand.”