Wilson signs with Reds – 2y, $8m!

DMZ · November 30, 2004 at 5:13 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Paul Wilson, that is. Sorry, slow news week.


26 Responses to “Wilson signs with Reds – 2y, $8m!”

  1. David J Corcoran on November 30th, 2004 5:20 pm

    Seems about right for him. That’s good.

  2. PositivePaul on November 30th, 2004 5:27 pm

    Saw that headline, too. I darn near had a coronary until I actually clicked the link and read that it was Paul Wilson.

  3. Bruce on November 30th, 2004 5:42 pm

    I also thought for a second it was Dan, until I saw the 2 year 8 million part.

  4. NBarnes on November 30th, 2004 6:06 pm

    A 2 year, $8 million deal doesn’t sound radically more insane than anything else that’s happened this offseason. Espeically since Beane locked down Kendall.

  5. Evan on November 30th, 2004 6:08 pm

    That was mean.

    The way this offseason’s been going, $8 million for Danny seemed kind of credible.

  6. Shoeless Jose on November 30th, 2004 6:30 pm

    While we’re on the subject — what about Pierzynski? The rumors in SF are that the Giants want to deal him because he’ll end up with $5M in arbitration and they want budget room. He’s a 29 year old left-hitting catcher with less than 600 games under his belt. His stats, make him basically a late-90s Dan Wilson: a .270ish hitter witout much power (10 HR) but gets men across the plate (70 RBI). His BA was better with the Twins but I image the field effect of Safeco would be about the same as SBC, though as a lefty he might do a little better. Of course that would give the Ms three catchers, but unless Olivio makes a remarkable improvement is he likely to be catching a lot of games anyway? And how much longer can Dan W go on?

  7. Ralph Malph on November 30th, 2004 6:34 pm

    This doesn’t seem outrageous, but the Giants signing of Benitez for 3 years/$21M strikes me as unbelievably stupid.

    Report on ESPN is the Mets have offered Pedro 3 years/$38 million plus a vesting option for a fourth year at $12 million.

    The chances of the M’s signing one of the Belt brothers seem to be getting smaller and smaller with each signing.

  8. Ty on November 30th, 2004 6:46 pm

    Phew. You scared me for a sec. I thought at first it was Dan.

  9. austinspace on November 30th, 2004 7:02 pm

    I saw that and said to my wife, “Dan Wilson…never mind.”

  10. Bill on November 30th, 2004 8:03 pm

    Does anyone think it is significant that the Mariners haven’t signed anyone yet before Dec 7th? I am surprised they haven’t tried to rid themselves of their first round pick.

  11. Trent on November 30th, 2004 8:08 pm

    We can’t lose our first round pick

  12. chief on November 30th, 2004 8:43 pm

    Ref #5 and #8. That was mean and it did scare me, which suprised me. Up until I read Derek’s post I felt it was okay if Dan W. wasn’t resigned. Then I saw the headline and thought oh no! So I guess deep down I want Dan W. to remain with the Ms. One more year to back up Olivio and try to help O learn to cut down on the passed balls. Ref #7 – as I have posted before I don’t think we were ever in the running for the B boys. Delgado at 1B and Glaus at 3B would be a nice start for building towards 2006, but we still need another starter. Clement would be a nice fit. Then the FO would have a foundation for 2006. I just don’t think we can turn this around and make the playoffs in 2005 so the FO should be thinking long term.

  13. Jim Thomsen on November 30th, 2004 8:59 pm

    You know, I don’t think I’ve heard a whisper about Clement this offseason. Is anybody actively angling for him?

  14. DMZ on November 30th, 2004 9:26 pm

    We can’t lose our first round pick

    To be fair, Bill was expressing surprise that the M’s hadn’t been trying to find some way out of the pick, not that they hadn’t weaseled out of it successfully.

    You know, I don’t think I’ve heard a whisper about Clement this offseason. Is anybody actively angling for him?

    Brewers maybe, Mets definately, Tigers, Marlins possibly, the Yankees could be interested. And that’s just the last week or so.

  15. Jeff on November 30th, 2004 9:33 pm

    Word is the Blue Jays are very interested in Clement as well.


  16. Chris Begley on November 30th, 2004 9:38 pm

    Riccardi (Ricciardi?) at first said he wouldn’t be too upset losing his first overall pick if he signed Clement. But then he backed down. Nevertheless, I think that can be taken as a sign that the Jays are interested.

  17. Jerry on November 30th, 2004 9:40 pm

    The more I think about it, the more I think that just going with Wiki as the backup makes sense. If not, perhaps they can get some solid defense/no bat backup cheap. If they can resign Wilson for one year and less than 1.5 million, great. But if not, they could just try to pick up someone that is non-tendered or not offered arbitration for less than 1 mil. They would also get a first round pick for Wilson from whoever signs him if they offer arbitration.

  18. Shoeless Jose on November 30th, 2004 10:12 pm

    The Chicago papers say both the Indians and the White Sox are interested in Clement.

    On the topic of old catchers, I keep seeing talk of the Angels picking up Piazza as a DH. Seems like an awfully expensive way to fill that position, even for an owner who likes to make big splashes. Is Piazza really such a draw in LA?

  19. Jerry on November 30th, 2004 10:13 pm


    I hope that they do bring in Piazza. That would make it tough to sign Beltran. If the M’s aren’t going to go after Beltran, I just hope that he lands in the NL. Or at least not in the AL West.

  20. Paul Molitor Cocktail on November 30th, 2004 10:31 pm

    I also thought for a second it was Dan, until I saw the 2 year 8 million part.

    Same here.

    Dan would go for 3/$16 easily.

  21. MER on November 30th, 2004 10:48 pm

    Maybe if they passed a cup around Safeco to the little ol’ ladies, the M’s could raise that to 4/$25 with an option for life.

  22. C on December 1st, 2004 2:05 am

    Any thoughts about Finnigan’s article?:
    ‘In addition to making offers to sluggers Carlos Delgado and Richie Sexson, the Mariners apparently have put their need for pitching on the table in the form of an offer to right-handed pitcher Jaret Wright.

    Unconfirmed word has the offer at $15 million over three years for Wright, who came back from years of shoulder and elbow miseries to go 15-8 with a 3.28 earned-run average in 32 starts for Atlanta in 2004.

    “Wright is an interesting possibility,” a National League scout said. “He pitched awfully well at times for the Braves. He throws with a lot smoother delivery now, which should help him avoid more arm trouble, and he’s learned to keep the ball down and use his running fastball.”‘

    Anyone else scared of a big contract going to a pitcher with a history of shoulder and elbow injuries?!

  23. Shoeless Jose on December 1st, 2004 2:24 am

    Yeesh, don’t the M’s have enough pitchers with elbow problems? I wish this town had a sports writer that would at least ask why they don’t seem even to be considering Clement. And what about Odalis Perez? And the bullpen — Steve Kline? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

  24. Jeff Sullivan on December 1st, 2004 6:13 am

    Jumping back in the conversation, the Indians are also reportedly hot for Clement.

  25. Bernard Aboba on December 1st, 2004 7:19 am

    Here’s the payout to Benitez, who is 32 and signed a 3 year contract:
    2005 (33): 1.6 MM signing bonus + 2.5 MM salary = 4.1 MM total
    2006 (34): 2.6 MM signing bonus + 4 MM salary = 6.6 MM total
    2007 (35): 7.6 MM salary
    2008 (36): 1.6 MM signing bonus
    2009 (37): 1.6 MM signing bonus

    Does anyone really think that Benitez will be worth 7.6 MM in 2007, let alone 6.6 MM in 2006?

    And here’s the best part (from the MSNBC article at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6620966/):

    Only the backloading made the deal possible for the Giants.

    “Without that we would have had a real tough time folding him in,” assistant general manager Ned Colletti said. “Their willingness to work with us was the key to getting it done.”

    I guess by 2007 they expect to have Bonds off the books, so they will have salary flexibility. Though keep doing deals like this one and the Vizquel deal, I expect the Giants to be a last place team by then.

  26. pat on December 1st, 2004 9:31 am

    #6 – the rap on AJ in Minnesota and SF has been that he’s a poor clubhouse guy, so I would imagine that the M’s won’t be interested based on that.