Game 3, Twins at Mariners

DMZ · April 6, 2005 at 2:24 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Silva vs Madritsch
3:35, no TV, so it’s KOMO-only

Will Thornton make another appearance? Ever? Will the rest of the Mariner lineup hit? Who does Ron Gardenhire remind you of?


191 Responses to “Game 3, Twins at Mariners”

  1. Roger on April 6th, 2005 5:58 pm

    And please remember that the worst thing Sexson could do here would be to hit a homerun. (Shakes head)

  2. Ralph Malph on April 6th, 2005 5:59 pm

    Don’t worry we won’t reach Wilson’s spot. Or Bloomquist’s.

  3. Roger on April 6th, 2005 6:00 pm


  4. Marty Lighthizer on April 6th, 2005 6:00 pm

    Small sample size and all…

    Runs scored so far:
    Tampa Bay 13
    Arizona 11
    Kansas City 9
    Seattle 10

    We’re up there with the big boys!

    BTW, Rincon to Nathan looks about as Everyday as Eddie used to be…

  5. Graham on April 6th, 2005 6:02 pm

    For some reason, I’m much more annoyed at today then I was yesterday.

  6. Fathom on April 6th, 2005 6:05 pm

    Add a possible injury to our team weakness and that feeling gets worse.

  7. Jeremy on April 6th, 2005 6:06 pm

    10 hits, 1 run for your Seattle Mariners.


  8. Graham on April 6th, 2005 6:07 pm

    This game can be summarized in 24 characters…

    Mads hurt. M’s Bats: 3DPs, CS.

  9. NY-Mariner on April 6th, 2005 6:10 pm

    Who do I sugest pinch hitting for Wilson? The little girl that fields the foul balls down the line, I bet she would have atleast got down to first quicker. I supose it is better to have a reality check now rather than later.

  10. Jeremy on April 6th, 2005 6:12 pm

    I’d suggest Mike Hargrove as a pinch hitter, NY Mariner.

    I’m sure he can still hit.

  11. Colm on April 6th, 2005 6:16 pm

    I missed the game – didn’t know about the early start.

    How on Earth did the M’s pull off such a 2004-esque line as 1 run on 10 hits?

  12. Morisseau on April 6th, 2005 6:17 pm

    I will say this again, and will continue to do so until either I’m reprimanded by the site bosses or my idea catches on: if you try to work your fantasy team into a disucssion, you should be banned from posting for a month.

    For all you MLB extra innings subscribers, I just discovered that on their website you can configure email delivery of the extra innings schedule to you on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. Pretty cool.

    Still no word on the offical “logic” of the local blackout restrictions.

  13. Jim Thomsen on April 6th, 2005 6:18 pm

    Best injury of the season so far:

    DENVER (AP) — Colorado Rockies outfielder Dustan Mohr was placed on the 15-day disabled list Wednesday with a strained left calf, an injury that occurred during the team’s victory celebration in its season opener.
    As the players charged to the field to celebrate Clint Barmes’ winning two-run homer that led Colorado to a 12-10 comeback victory Monday, Mohr was injured while jumping out of the Rockies’ dugout.

  14. Tom on April 6th, 2005 6:54 pm

    To answer the Gardenhire question, I think he reminds me of Lou.

    Not only does he have the NL style ball in the AL, he’s a winner and has the temper.

    I think he may even have the girth too.

  15. Mojo on April 6th, 2005 6:58 pm

    Just gotta say that this play-by-play commenting is a real hoot. Especially if you are not able to see (or hear) the game. Much funner to read through 160+ comments than to read the outcome on some other site. You can almost “feel” the game this way. 🙂

    I’m sure it will get old eventually but keep it up for at least a few more games!

  16. JMB on April 6th, 2005 7:17 pm

    Nah, these game threads are great.

    But wow, what a crappy game.


  17. Will on April 6th, 2005 7:18 pm

    Just got back to work from the game. It was even worse live.

  18. Tom on April 6th, 2005 7:29 pm

    I am looking forward to off season.

  19. Jimbo on April 6th, 2005 7:32 pm

    I am not going to make any harsh judgements after 3 games, but I will say I am not too impressed with Mike Hargrove as a manager so far.

  20. Mojo on April 6th, 2005 7:46 pm

    JMB, not sure if you were “nah’ing” to me but I was saying that these threads are great too!

  21. DC Mikey on April 6th, 2005 7:49 pm

    I am not a lip-reader, but watching on MLB I could have sworn I saw Madritsch say something like “it’s the same thing as before” to BP before walking off the field. Sounds to me like he thinks he re-injured the labrum. The look on his face was truly mournful.

    Some clubs are going to have more injuries than others due to bad luck. The rash of young M’s pitchers suffering major arm/shoulder injuries over the last 3-4 years could just be a fluke (and certainly Mads had been injured before). Or maybe it’s time for the organization to have a complete review of the conditioning/training regimens for their pitchers. Couldn’t hurt.

  22. Sheri on April 6th, 2005 7:57 pm

    Can’t help but wonder if Grover’s tougher spring workouts aren’t somehow connected to the rash of pitcher injuries! Joel, Eddie, now Bobby. Somehow I have trouble picturing Eddie (or Julio Mateo for that matter) jogging without a big stick prodding them, and wasn’t that the reason they gave for him hurting his hamstring? Hoping it’s just coincidence…

  23. sodo on April 6th, 2005 8:05 pm


    Joel and Eddie were injured before Mike Hargrove was even with the Mariners.

    And all we know about Mads is that he has a mild strain, no word on how long he is going to be out.

  24. Adam on April 6th, 2005 8:11 pm

    It’s only been 3 games.


    3 games.

    It’ll be okay.

  25. Deanna on April 6th, 2005 8:22 pm

    Yeah, I went to the game this afternoon and it was pretty painful to watch, even beyond Morneau’s beaning. The Twins seemed to have a penchant for bunting today (and successfully, too).

    Boone had a pretty nice 3 for 4 birthday showing though; that was good, considering he hadn’t hit anything yet. And Ichiro’s again on track for what, 320 hits this year?

    I didn’t think Franklin looked that bad out there today, especially considering he kinda came in out of nowhere after Madritsch’s injury. Better than Ron “What strike zone?” Villone, that’s for sure.

    Hmm, looks like Sele’s starting on Friday against Chan Ho Park. Wheeeeee!

  26. Josh on April 6th, 2005 8:42 pm

    I’ll be at Friday’s game, hopefully Sele pitches decently.

    Best seats I’ve ever had for a game too, so I’m excited.

  27. Dave on April 6th, 2005 9:29 pm

    You guys are depressing. We went 1-2 against the defending AL Central champ, throwing Johan Santana and Brad Radke against us. If you had offered me a 1-2 series before it started, I’d have taken it just to avoid the chance of getting swept to start the year.

  28. dw on April 6th, 2005 9:36 pm

    But Dave, we were up 4-0 on Santana, then gave up a touchdown. The offense has been good early but horrid late. The pitching has been as awful as advertised.

    Three games so far: good, bad, and abysmal. 159 to go, but I’m not liking what I’m seeing so far.

    Of course, it can’t get worse… right?

  29. Dave on April 6th, 2005 9:48 pm

    The team has given up 13 runs in 3 games, or 4.33 runs per game. Last year, they gave up 5.08 runs per game.

    Saying the pitching has been “horrid” isn’t just an overstatement, it’s just not true.

    What were your expectations for the first series? That we’d beat Radke and Santana? Really?

  30. Josh on April 6th, 2005 10:01 pm

    Dave I’d feel a lot better about these two games if the outcome to the games were the same but Mads was not injured. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how that ends up. For now though, I’m worried about that.

  31. msb on April 6th, 2005 10:56 pm

    Madritsch’ shoulder is “mildly strained”.
    Morneau’s CAT scan came back negative for a concussion or fracture, and he was cleared to fly home. According to him “I wasn’t dizzy or anything, so that’s good. I’ve had a few concussions before. I’ve been kicked in the back of the head with a hockey skate once.”
    Ichiro wasn’t in danger of being hit as everyone knew it was an accident.
    Dustin Mohr is thanking his lucky stars that unlike Tagg Bozied he only strainjed something leaping up & down.

  32. John in L.A. on April 6th, 2005 11:08 pm

    I agree Dave, no shame in splitting with the Twins. Especially those pitchers.

    I think the problem, ironicly, is that the team got our hopes up by playing better than we expected.

    That said… I think there are valid points of concern coming out of this series. For one thing… the continued Mariner infatuation with bad relievers. And putting Ibanez in right for game two – I’d like to know the thinking behind that. The inopportune caught stealings.

    Meaning I am more concerned about choices than I am about performance. All the things that can be and perhaps will be corrected. And mostly things that I think you covered before the season started.

  33. msb on April 6th, 2005 11:22 pm

    #182 John in L.A. said: “I agree Dave, no shame in splitting with the Twins. Especially those pitchers.”

    and that defense. and hitting.

    “I think there are valid points of concern coming out of this series. For one thing… the continued Mariner infatuation with bad relievers. And putting Ibanez in right for game two – I’d like to know the thinking behind that.”

    I’m just hoping that Hargrove is a quick learner– that he sees some game-situations this week, and fixes them by next…

  34. Phil on April 7th, 2005 7:36 am

    Dave – Maybe not. But the M’s got Santana on a day that he was off and jumped on him early. That game could have been a win.

  35. Basebliman on April 7th, 2005 9:04 am

    time to thank melvin for that overuse last year (120+ pitch outings, for god’s sake)!

  36. anotherjeff on April 7th, 2005 9:10 am


    Thats how I’m feeling after some sleep and coffee.

    The Twins have shown that they are going to be tough this year and have the pitching we wish we had. Taking the first game against Radke is a pretty good thing. I’m still a couple weeks away from doomsday mentality. Really the biggest pitching issue was Thornton. Thornton was getting himself behind in the count on every batter, throwing first and second pitch balls. Well,we all know the story. There is no way to tell, but I think Meche gets out of that inning if he is allowed to. Then the landscape of the opening series is completely changed. I think when Reed and Ibanez come into form, especially Reed, run production gets much better. Ichiro, Belte, Sexon, and as of lastnight Boone, are doing their jobs. Starting pitching really hasnt been bad at all. I dont think things are as bleak as they may seem to some. I dont see a division title, but I do see a team that makes it tough on the one who wins it. If this team can pull that off, we should be satisfied for this year.

  37. John D. on April 7th, 2005 10:18 am

    Re: (# 9) – Mariner games not on TV –
    “being from NYC its hard to imagine any game of any of our teams not being on television.”
    Be of good cheer. Things could be worse. And soon will be.
    Next week the Ms play three (3) games in KC. None(0)of them are to be televised.

  38. Evan on April 7th, 2005 10:20 am

    Not only is it only 3 games, but it’s three games against a team that’s a heavy favourite to win its division again. The Twins are a pretty good team. Losing 2 of 3 to them isn’t a disaster.

    We just have to make sure we don’t lose 2 of 3 to teams like KC.

  39. Michael on April 7th, 2005 10:50 am

    KJR were announcing this morning that Bobby Madritsch’s condition was diagnosed as “strained shoulder” with return unsure, but certain to miss next start.
    If they MRI’d the shoulder straight away. I understand that sometimes swelling can hide or disguise the real injury. Maybe we will have to wait several days for a more accurate diagnosis.

  40. John D. on April 7th, 2005 11:03 am

    Why was OLIVO pinch-hit for in the Tuesday game, and WILSON was not pinch-hit for in the Wednesday game?

  41. Aaron Brooks on April 7th, 2005 4:23 pm

    #190 and others: I think I figured out one reason why Dan Wilson was batting in that situation.

    According to the ESPN Game update page I was using to watch the “live” game stats, Dan Wilson’s historical line vs. Silva was 4-5, 0 HR (.800 BA). Even after going 0-3 against Silva this time around, he’s still got a respectable 4-8 (.500 BA) against him.

    I’m sure Hargrove and Wilson both thought he’d have a shot at getting a hit based on past performance.

    Looking at Dan’s 2004 numbers, it looks like he batted .318 against MIN, but I can’t find 2004 batter vs. pitcher stats to verify what he did vs. Silva.