Game 25: Mariners @ Oakland

Jeff · May 1, 2005 at 12:45 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

In a rematch, Joel Pineiro takes on Barry Zito today at 1:05. TV: FSN. Radio: Komo.

Last time, the M’s got to Zito late. Hopefully, they don’t wait as long this time.


137 Responses to “Game 25: Mariners @ Oakland”

  1. ahaha on May 1st, 2005 3:14 pm

    Awww…. Look at Ichi chatting it up out there! I’m so proud!

  2. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:14 pm

    Adrian…..let’s start May off with a bang!

  3. G-Man on May 1st, 2005 3:14 pm

    The good news – Beltre has faced Dotel enough to know him.
    The bad news – He’s hit .188

  4. Chuck on May 1st, 2005 3:14 pm

    Beltre: earn your paycheck

  5. change on May 1st, 2005 3:15 pm


    Wat a terrible at bat. Beltre sure looked terrible today. When does he start looking like the guy we signed?

  6. Chuck on May 1st, 2005 3:16 pm

    there’s no other way to put it: beltre’s been a major disappointment

  7. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:16 pm

    1 strike to first two batters and Beltre gets nothing but strikes. When is he gonna break out?

  8. ahaha on May 1st, 2005 3:16 pm

    Good god that was anti-climatic. BOOOOOO!!!!

  9. Chuck on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    that sucks

  10. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm


  11. David J Corcoran on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    Good to see all that money living up to the expectations.

  12. sodomojojojo on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    Maybe someone should suggest Beltre see Boone’s eye doctor & look into that new fangled lasik surgery. He really soesn’t seem to be seeing the ball all that well.

  13. zack on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    Damnit! A decent team sweeps that series.

  14. ahaha on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    To the Beltre-Haters: Christ, it’s May 1st. Give him time.

  15. Bretticus on May 1st, 2005 3:17 pm

    That’s another game that we should have won today…being a Mariner fan is so frustrating sometimes…

  16. Brian Thornton on May 1st, 2005 3:18 pm

    Wow, that was a swift turnaround. Damn.

    Makes the fact that Ichiro was clearly out at second on that steal even more anticlimactic.

  17. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:18 pm

    The thing is that now Beltre is gonna start pressing to meet the expectations, and it could get worse.

  18. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:19 pm

    But I am a Beltre lover! I trade Tim Hudson to get him in my fantasy league.

  19. Colm on May 1st, 2005 3:21 pm

    Well that sucked.

    The M’s deserved that one. The A’s were lucky.

  20. dw on May 1st, 2005 3:22 pm

    OK, quiz for you Beltre-haters.

    Who would you rather have hitting in that situation:
    Russ Davis
    David Bell

    Yup. Thought so.

  21. Tim in Japan on May 1st, 2005 3:24 pm

    Beltre will get better. Remember Ichiro’s .255 April last year? Remember that people were saying he was an overpaid mediocre player at the time? Beltre is one of those players that heat up when the weather heats up.

  22. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:25 pm

    #120 that’s not really the point. Did we sign any of those guys for $64 million? I am not a Beltre hater, I think he will be worth the money, but that’s a poor argument.

  23. sodomojojojo on May 1st, 2005 3:26 pm

    I don’t think it’s so much that we hate Beltre, we just expect to see more from him. We have been pinning a lot of our hopes for this season on signing him this off-season. We really want him to do well, get out of this slump and mete out some punishment, especially on these so-so teams.

  24. zack on May 1st, 2005 3:26 pm


    David Bell in ’01. He was clutch as hell at .260. A total gamer.

  25. edgarfan on May 1st, 2005 3:26 pm

    Uggh, two disappointing losses in a row. Oh, well, the team is still a lot more fun to watch than last year’s crew. And Beltre’s just fine. He stings the ball when he hits it, even if those hits only go for singles.

    Oh, and did anyone feel the disturbance in the force today, as Santana lost his first game since about 1985?

  26. Shoeless Jose on May 1st, 2005 3:28 pm

    Actually, if you look at his career numbers May is historically Beltre’s worst month, though I have no idea why. So don’t expect much improvement, and more hatin’ to be directed in his direction, as time goes on. Then, when just about everybody is on that bandwagon, he’ll come back and shut them all up over the hot months. At least, if this season is true to form.

    Anyway, is Dave saying that the M’s have the lowest number of errors of any team in MLB? Or some other stat?

  27. ray on May 1st, 2005 3:31 pm

    Grover is turning out to be not as good as I thought.
    1) too many people in the bullpen
    2) the bullpen guys aren’t getting enough work because of 1
    3) Why not use a bullpen guy to replacement Piniero — because of 1 and who cares about getting him the win. The M’s don’t need rusty pitchers and better rested starters in the beginning of the season will only help the later
    4) he is completely ignoring Choo like some unwanted step-child. This is the worst. I think it has been two weeks since he has been on the bench. And one pinch-hit? Poor guy, it must feel like the DL. When, if ever, he gets sent back to Tacoma, he’ll have to really take off the rust.

  28. zack on May 1st, 2005 3:33 pm

    Rating a defece is like picking out the best flavor of Tony Romas ribs. There are faaaarrr too many glorious factors to weigh.

  29. Baltimore M's Fan on May 1st, 2005 3:34 pm

    Am I the only one who thinks Hargrove is an arrogant guy? That’s not always a bad thing for a manager though….

  30. zack on May 1st, 2005 3:35 pm

    DEFENSE… sorry – me = idiot

  31. ray on May 1st, 2005 3:38 pm

    Okay, so Beltre isn’t really earning his pay yet. People say give him time. Ok I’ll give hime time, but how much time? When can the fans start to gripe? After 2 months, 3, a season?

  32. change on May 1st, 2005 5:22 pm

    I’m curious how much longer it will take fore the media to jump on the whole steroid thing. I mean you go from leading the majors in HR to being tied with Ichiro…

  33. change on May 1st, 2005 5:31 pm

    Man my spelling is terrible.

  34. msb on May 1st, 2005 9:20 pm

    #79–ahaha said: “MSB, Dave didn’t actually give any supporting evidence. But we all believe he has it. It’s a pretty powerful position to be in, actually.”

    Guess I should have emoticon-ed there. actually, I was making a teeny joke predicated on the notion that Dave usually does have some numbers in mind.

    here, I’ll add a smiley 🙂

  35. Ralph Malph on May 1st, 2005 10:14 pm

    you go from leading the majors in HR to being tied with Ichiro…

    …and you go from Dodger Stadium to Safeco field. A season is a series of peaks and valleys. Let’s talk about Beltre at the All-Star break. Or in October.

  36. Scraps on May 2nd, 2005 2:42 am

    Have you people been watching the same Beltre I have? He’s been hitting the ball hard and had a lot of bad luck. It’ll straighten out so long as he keeps swinging well.

  37. JPWood on May 2nd, 2005 5:52 am

    Beltre is getting fooled/making weak to no contact on high and hard and low and outside, and unlike what he did in Lala land, Beltre is not making good use of the entire outfield this season. Does anyone else think that Edgar might be able to help him in a brief “consultant’s” role?
    I know Edgar spent at least 2 seasons not being able to hit those 2 trouble pitches either, but he was raking everything across the diagonal until 2001. As for spraying across the compass, Edgar might be an inspiration for that as well.