Lou About To Crack

Jeff · May 4, 2005 at 7:05 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Your friend and mine Les Carpenter, late of the Seattle Times, returns to the well of people he once covered. His conclusion? Mount Lou is about to explode, wreaking its terrible Pompeiian vengeance.

I paraphrase.

Few not in the owner’s immediate family would shed a tear if Lou treated Vince Naimoli like first base. The interesting thing to watch, though, is what happens if the Yankees’ slide continues. In a sane world, winning several World Series would get JoeTorre substantial job security.

If you think that’s Steinbrenner’s world, well, you probably missed the 1970s.


22 Responses to “Lou About To Crack”

  1. Tim in Japan on May 4th, 2005 7:42 am

    Things are not looking very positive at the Yankees right now. Too many people slumping, injured, done or simply not worth their paycheck. I don’t think it’s Torre’s fault, but the Boss has to yell at someone. Jaret Wright was a terrible signing. Johnson is a huge health risk. Pavano is going to look a lot different in the AL East than Florida, which is a very pitcher-friendly place. And then there’s Brown, who made Lou’s boys look like murderer’s row. Now they’re calling up triple-A and even double-A guys to fill in.

  2. SteveV on May 4th, 2005 8:42 am

    Say it ain’t so, Lou. Not the Yankees.

  3. urchman on May 4th, 2005 9:04 am

    Go Orioles! 🙂
    Yeah, it’s kinda petty, but I know I’m not the only one cheering as the Yanks struggle.

  4. Aaron on May 4th, 2005 9:11 am

    I hope the Yankees’ pitching is fantastic the rest of the way, and the hitters keep them out fo the playoffs.

    There were only a few starters set to be free agents next offseason, and some of them have already signed extentions. With every Yankee implosion, the price for free agent pitching help next year goes WAY up. The M’s better hope a couple minor league arms are ready to contribute to the show next year, or get a whole lot better at scouring the non-tender wire, because signing anybody worth signing is not going to happen.

  5. djw on May 4th, 2005 9:14 am

    Not petty at all. Shows your a normal, healthy baseball fan who didn’t grow up in the Bronx.

  6. Swing and A Miss on May 4th, 2005 9:15 am

    Lou is like every manager and player. He wants to win. He cannot stand to see people half-A** around and not play to their full potential or give 100% every play. Lou has always been this way, even as a player. When he was with the Yankees, he was a hard nosed, give it everything you got player. He wants to win and cannot stand losing. I don’t blame him for being upset.

  7. msb on May 4th, 2005 9:15 am

    well, I’m not looking forward to Monday– Randy Johnson is ticked off the Yankees pulled him from his last start to rest his groin. Nothing like watching a team that can’t hit lefties go up against a p.o.’d RJ.

  8. Troy on May 4th, 2005 9:26 am

    Lou knew exactly what he was getting into when he signed with Tampa. He went to the worst and cheapest team in baseball, who also happen to be in the same division as the Yankees and Red Sox. They didn’t have a chance then and they don’t have a chance now. I love the guy, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for him.

  9. Swing and A Miss on May 4th, 2005 9:28 am

    Well, I grew up a Yankee fan, mostly because I live down south, where until the Braves came to Atlanta, we had no ML team anywhere near us. In fact, D.C or Baltimore was the closest. I was a Mantle, Ford, Clete Boyer, Elston Howard, fan. I loved the Yankees. Now I hate them and have since the 70s. They make me sick. Mainly because of George. Nothing makes me feel better than to watch them suffer now. He has not though one bit about the game, what he was doing to the game, just throwing money all around like a kid in a candy store with grandpaw’s money. To watch them lose makes me feel good. I am not an ARod fan. I have not liked hims since his departure from Seattle and his statement about going to a “winning” team, when Texas never has won anything, with or without him. I started disliking the Rangers like I disliked the Yankees, just because of ARod. And, I like the Rangers before that because of Nolan Ryan. Now, with ARod gone, I can happily watch the M’s and Rangers again. And anyone beating George. I love watching loud mouthed Kevin Brown getting racked up!!!!!

  10. Ken Hanselman on May 4th, 2005 9:31 am

    Lou, Randy, Tino, Awad…it might’ve taken him ten years but George could finally complete his collection of the ’95 M’s. How weird, sad and ironic.

  11. Xteve X on May 4th, 2005 9:32 am

    #8, I feel exactly the same way. I’d say if the Yankees continue their implosion no way Torre lasts the year. I think the chances of Lou being in pinstripes next season are pretty good right now.

  12. roger thornhill on May 4th, 2005 9:56 am

    i love lou more than any sports manager in history and i wish him nothing but the best. but, i REALLY don’t want to see him go to the yankees. not another ex-mariner, please. i can’t stand a-rod or randy anymore, so i’m perfectly happy seeing them play for the ‘evil empire.’ i’m not sure what the answer is for lou. but, not that. the logical chain of fire would be to ditch cashman first, then the pitching coach, then maybe torre a distant third. so, fingers crossed this is just a journalist thinking out loud. go, devil rays!

  13. Jonathan on May 4th, 2005 10:16 am

    My affection for Randy and A-rod has certainly dried up over the years (for a host of excellent reasons), so, like #12, I’m ok with seeing them in the Bronx. But Lou? Looooouuuuu?!?!? I realize that affection for famous people we’ve never met may seem a silly thing, but the fact is that we DO get emotionally invested in the cast of characters (at least I do). In the age of free-agency that cast rotates, and this is a natural part of the game as we now know it. But Lou with the Yankees??? I would not be ok with that. I was always proud of myself for not holding his Yankee pedigree against him while he was here!

  14. Aaron on May 4th, 2005 12:13 pm

    #10, etc. Re: 1995 New York Mariners.


    Griffey’s name is coming up now in talks about replacing Bernie Williams. Though the article says he’s actually not likely to be affordable to King George, it does say Griffey “says he wouldn’t mind playing in the Bronx,” right before it them goes into Mike Cameron speculation for the same spot.

    News flash, George, you’re about 10 years late with most of these guys.

  15. wabbles on May 4th, 2005 12:16 pm

    Ah yes, those wonderful winning, fueding Yankees teams of the 1970s and their “colorful” new owner. ‘sigh’ I don’t like the Yankees, but here’s something to maybe keep things in perspective. In 1995, the M’s and Yankees played an epic ALDS. It was one for the ages. It was gut-wrenching, awe-inspiring, energy-sapping. It also was THE FIRST TIME THE YANKEES HAD BEEN IN THE POSTSEASON IN 14 YEARS! I couldn’t believe that either, so I looked it up. So, $200 million payroll aside, maybe they are finally “returning to the mean” again, as it were.

  16. Jim on May 4th, 2005 12:52 pm

    If George continues his quest to rebuild the 95 M’s, we should absolutely offer up Nellie, Wilson, and toss in Boone for fun.

  17. wabbles on May 4th, 2005 1:01 pm

    Um, ‘cept Boonie was winning Gold Gloves in Cincinnati at the time. We traded Boone and Erik Hanson for Wilson and Bobby Ayala after the 1993 season because Dave Valle left in free agency and Norm Charlton blew out his shoulder.

  18. msb on May 4th, 2005 1:23 pm

    you know, Ron Villone pitched 19.1 innings for the M’s in ’95….

  19. wabbles on May 4th, 2005 1:36 pm

    Yes’m I did. He was traded for Tim Belcher.

  20. msb on May 4th, 2005 1:49 pm

    so he’s available too! Sojo is alrady coaching third, and Ozzie prob. wouldn’t let Li’l Joey leave the White Sox anyway…

  21. AK1984 on May 4th, 2005 2:01 pm

    You know, the New York Yankees need a center fielder; I wonder if the Reds would be willing to part w/ Ken Griffey, Jr? If that were to go down — which is more unlikely than Lou Piniella getting fired from the Tampa Bay Devil Rays and subsequently taking over Joe Torre’s job as the manager of the Yankees — it would give M’s fans even more reason to hate New York.

    Also, I wonder if the Yankees would be interested in trading for Bret Boone? The M’s would be well off to trade Boone — who is vastly overpaid — for a decent prospect, such as second baseman Robinson Cano; send ’em Ron Villone, too, as it seems that they are in the need of a fifth starter.

  22. Tim in Japan on May 4th, 2005 3:40 pm

    Maybe the M’s should use this moment to try and make a trade with the Yankees? Should Bavasi be on the phone to Steinbrenner to take a Kevin Brown (but not his salary) off his hands for Aaron Sele? Right now Sele’s numbers compare favorably to Brown’s. If not Sele, then Franklin or Moyer?