Doyle update

DMZ · May 22, 2005 at 4:03 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

After being drilled in the hand by Andy Pratt yesterday, X-rays came back and he’s okay. He’ll be “day-to-day” for a bit, but the important thing is nothing broke.

Doyle’s line so far: .404/.484/.635. 2 doubles, 5 HR, 16 walks, 19 strikouts. No steals.


60 Responses to “Doyle update”

  1. Not a Recycler on May 23rd, 2005 1:51 pm

    Because he hasn’t been injured the gods have shown they smile on Sele. And because the M’s have not shown that they can prevent (or know how to prevent) pitching injuries, I put my faith in the gods.

  2. Recycling wastes water on May 23rd, 2005 1:55 pm

    Wasn’t Sele a result of the fling of Zeus and Leda? Or was he the one that was birthed from the thigh of Zeus? In any case, at the end of the season, Sele will have a better ERA than Moyer.

  3. Jim Thomsen on May 23rd, 2005 2:20 pm

    All I’m saying is that Sele seems to have found a correction to his mechanics that enables him to make fewer mistakes and give his defense more chances to help him win in the extreme short term. If he’s truly found a way to induce more ground balls, it seems a lot less likely that he’ll get himself in trouble by yielding doubles and triples all over the ballpark as he was for a while. I appreciate that Sele’s ground balls can’t continue to avoid holes in the defense as they have his last two starts, but a return to his previous awful form seems just as unlikely as well … at least for a while.

  4. eponymous coward on May 23rd, 2005 2:22 pm

    He’s still not a major league pitcher.

    That’s a reasonable argument- that if we released Sele today and put in Campillo, we could have a better pitching rotation (regardless of the message it sends to your roster that pitching a shoutout gets you an unconditional release). I don’t really take issue with it.

    What I am saying is there’s SOME evidence Sele might not be as craptastic as you’d expect given the last couple of years- in that his G/F ratio’s up (and if you look at his starts, the games with the best G/F ratio are his best games) and his release point is looking better. And it’s not like we’re flush with good pitching right now, anyway- Franklin’s BB/K and K/9 numbers are pretty awful, and Moyer has been awful in aggregate since last year’s ASB (ERA in the 6’s). Yeah, I know, you’d argue they will probably be better over the rest of the year than Sele. That’s reasonable as well- but I’d say odds are they’ll all kind of suck (Moyer, for instance, has had his ERA go up in the second half regularly the last few years), or it’s pick ’em to see who goes on a hot streak the rest of the year.

  5. eponymous coward on May 23rd, 2005 2:28 pm

    I should rephrase “hot streak” as “lukewarm streak”. Given the choice between Sele, Moyer and Franklin, I might wish I was in Nevada so I could vote for “None of these choices”.

  6. bill on May 23rd, 2005 2:44 pm

    I’m not sure why we should believe that Sele is any more likely to be “lucky” for the rest of the year than any other pitcher.

    I don’t think he is any more likely to be lucky than any other pitcher. That said, until he starts really hitting the unlucky side of things, there’s no harm in sticking with him given the alternatives.

  7. wabbles on May 23rd, 2005 6:14 pm

    Um, I agree with DMZ in #13. Those moves are too hasty and too off-base.

  8. Dead Ball Tim on May 23rd, 2005 8:09 pm

    hmmm… trading Winn to make room for #14. First question for me would be “Does Winn figure in 2006+ plans or does #14?” Doyle might be ready to play in Seattle but there’s no room. Trading Winn may result in some nice prospects plus Winn is paid more than 10 times what Doyle makes now (316K) so trading away Winn could save 3 million + to be spent later on some free agent gamble. By the way, Ibanez gets 1 million more than Winn… which is either a comment on the effectiveness of Raul’s agent or more evidence supporting the value the bosses place on the occasional home run over defense. I’m pointing out that nobody is suggesting trading Ibanez but Winn seems expendable in most of these conversations; left-handing-once-in-a-while HR’s over defense and steady hitting. Its all is what gets valued, I guess. Could be the end of Winn’s contract too… idunno that. To dump Winn in favor of Doyle plus prospects plus a 3 million per year savings might look good to a Bavasi faced with another scrub season on his hands.

  9. Dead Ball Tim on May 23rd, 2005 8:11 pm

    aaaack… typo city! =P Where’s the edit feature on this thing!

  10. Eric on May 24th, 2005 12:46 pm

    I know they don’t have much too offer beyond clearing salary and making room for Doyle, but how much longer are the Yankees gonna run Womack out to butcher LF? Winn in CF and Matsui back in left looks a lot better, they must have a couple B level prospects left or maybe one of their patented 3 team trades where they take on some other teams salary dump in exchange for a decent prospect to throw us.