Game 49, Mariners at Devil Rays

DMZ · May 29, 2005 at 10:37 am · Filed Under Game Threads 

RHP Joel Pineiro v RHP Doug Waechter. Televised on FSN and FSN-HD.

Normally, I’d try to offer some kind of interesting tidbit or something to think about, but only a couple minutes ago I made it back from a 75-mile bike ride, and I’m all grimy, euphoric, cold, and in pain, so I have some things to tend to before the game starts.

I think Pineiro is seriously injured, and he’s going to have Tommy John/rotator cuff surgery before the season’s over. If he doesn’t go under the knife, he’ll go through the season without improving at all from the wild, erratic-velocity Pineiro we’ve seen so far. I have no inside information or medical background, so feel free to discard that prediction.


374 Responses to “Game 49, Mariners at Devil Rays”

  1. The Ancient Mariner on May 29th, 2005 3:28 pm

    Cano’s stretched at 2B–3B’s his best position, and I’m not sure he really has the bat to play there everyday anyway. If we dealt for him, the smart thing would be to teach him to play LF/RF and make him a utility player.

  2. MoscowJeff on May 29th, 2005 4:52 pm

    Speaking of potential deals, I can’t believe that Sabean dealt Williams and the Aardsma for the Cubs’ Hawkins. Considering Hawkins’ struggles in Chicago, I wonder what Mariners could have gotten from Sabean for Guardado. I have to think that Guardado is every bit of a pitcher as is Hawkins. I think that Hawkins even has an option for next year as well so it isn’t as if Sabean can get out from underneath his contract at the end of the year. I know that Williams is struggle this year but he’s 23 and a big righthander who has had success in the past. Aardsma is another big 23 year old righthander and a former first round pick. At the very least of the Mariners do this deal this get rid of Guardado’s contract.

  3. Noel on May 29th, 2005 5:01 pm

    Why get rid of Guardado? – he’s our best pitcher right now. Without him, we’d suck even worse.

  4. Saul on May 29th, 2005 5:03 pm

    Anyone know Felix’s line today after he left the game?

  5. Dave on May 29th, 2005 5:13 pm

    5 innings, 2 runs, 5 walks, 4 strikeouts. Not his best day command wise.

  6. Saul on May 29th, 2005 5:25 pm

    Did he give up many hits?

  7. John D. on May 29th, 2005 7:02 pm

    Re: (# 17) ILLEGAL STOPPING OF (OR PICKING UP) THE BALL – Don’t feel bad. Even some umpires don’t know Rule 7.05 (c)–or have to be reminded of it.
    BTW, in an M game some years ago, the other taam’s catcher nonchalantly picked up a loose ball with his mask. LP went running to the umpire (“out of the dugout,” of course), reminded the umpire of Rule 7.05 (d), and the runner was awarded two bases.

  8. Jim Thomsen on May 29th, 2005 7:11 pm

    Let’s not forget the possibility of otherworldly factors in Pineiro’s misfortunes. After all, after today he does have an ERA of 6.66 ….

    What might he have done to anger the gods of baseball?

  9. Saul on May 29th, 2005 7:23 pm

    Bleached his hair.

  10. JMB on May 29th, 2005 7:47 pm

    I’d have traded Guardado for Williams and Aardsma, #352. Heck throw in Randy Winn and make it Winn-Guardado for Williams-Aardsma-Lowry. 🙂


  11. MoscowJeff on May 29th, 2005 8:02 pm

    352 – apologize for the bad grammar….

  12. Dead Ball Tim on May 29th, 2005 8:34 pm

    OK… here’s the thing: The M’s can be a plus .500 team at mid-season if they go 22-10 between now and then! *checks his Pollyanna-scope* Hmm… this thing doesn’t seem to be working…

  13. Jim Thomsen on May 29th, 2005 9:15 pm

    That makes me cry … I REALLY wanted a Winn-for-Linden-and-Aardsma deal this past offseason, and posted a few times to that effect (back when the Giants hadn’t yet signed Moises Alou). If the Giants were so willing to be enthusiastically hosed in a trade, why not with Seattle?

  14. Jake Brake on May 29th, 2005 9:29 pm

    DMZ, you were on fire today, from start to finish. Hysterical.

  15. Jim Thomsen on May 29th, 2005 9:48 pm

    The only thing DMZ could do to top his performance would be an impression of Darnell Coles talking to his wife in bed.

  16. planB on May 29th, 2005 10:24 pm

    Jeff in Fremont:


    (That’s awesome.)

  17. eponymous coward on May 29th, 2005 10:34 pm

    OK… here’s the thing: The M’s can be a plus .500 team at mid-season if they go 22-10 between now and then!


  18. Colm on May 29th, 2005 10:56 pm

    324: DMZ, “…making a business out of ursury” (sic).

    That’d be, what? Bear-baiting?

  19. dave paisley on May 29th, 2005 11:45 pm

    Now, if Money Tree only cashed checks for bear cubs would that be Ursury Minor?

  20. Mords on May 30th, 2005 1:35 am

    From the Mariners website:

    Notes: Backup Willie Bloomquist, 1-for-5 the first two games this series, started at shortstop Sunday. “Willie seems to be swinging the bat well right now,” Hargrove said.

  21. tvwxman on May 30th, 2005 2:43 am

    Wait a minute…..I just heard that Raul Mondesi was DFA’ed. That can’t be right. After all, a contending team can’t just make changes this early in the season to go with an untested rookie over an over-the-hill (er, excuse me, “crafty veteran, good clubhouse guy”) starter. Right? I mean, you can’t make those type of crazy, wacky changes until July when you’re 20 games out.

  22. Bela Txadux on May 30th, 2005 7:28 am

    Regarding Joel’s season trajectory, I’m with you on this one, Derek: he sure seems like he’s injured to me. I suspect that his elbow ligaments are bad, although not necessarily snapped. That would be consistent with: a) his stated difficulties getting proper arm extension, b) his inability to reach maintain control at maximum velocity, c) his tendency to hang his breaking pitches severely, especially as he tires. He may not be ‘in pain,’ and nothing may show on the MRI, but his elbow might very well be tattered enough that he can’t sustain effectiveness; that is, his elbow is ‘going,’ but it’s not yet gone. Or something.

    . . . He does _not_ look like a healthy pitcher, and he _does_ look like any number of guys I’ve watched pitch who had a deteriorating injury as confirmed by subsequent diagnosis.

    Re: #265, I’ve always wondered what how those mound conferences went when a pitcher was schlubbing it. You must have had a mike concealed on Price, ’cause I’m sure it went just like that.

  23. world series on May 30th, 2005 11:40 am

    But this is how Joel pitched before his injury as well, great stuff/looks great – some of the time. Yesterday he looked great for a couple of innings. He’s always been inconsistent, it goes way back.

  24. world series on May 30th, 2005 11:47 am

    I’m sure the injury didn’t help matters though.