Alan Schwarz on Felix, trades

Jeff · July 13, 2005 at 2:35 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

In case you’re wondering about whether people in other parts of the country are as excited about King Felix as you are, Alan Schwarz has an answer. One of the elements in his second-hald preview is “when will Felix get the call?”

The Mariners also get a mention as one of the sure sellers, but we’ve talked about trades enough lately.


19 Responses to “Alan Schwarz on Felix, trades”

  1. jaketrash on July 13th, 2005 2:50 pm

    Have we really talked enough about trades lately? Take away all the Boone deliberations, its been at least a few days.

  2. eponymous coward on July 13th, 2005 3:02 pm

    we’ve talked about trades enough lately.

    We could discuss who has the hotter hand: Willie Bloomquist or Ryan Howard…


    OK, I got nothing.

  3. Rusty on July 13th, 2005 3:13 pm

    Can we get Will Carroll in here to discuss whether Felix’s shoulder bursitis really is a minor injury, or not?

  4. paul on July 13th, 2005 3:19 pm

    Or Mike Marshall to discuss his mechanics?

  5. Rusty on July 13th, 2005 3:22 pm

    Scott Podsednik quote from the Schwarz column… “Our record in one-run games has been pretty good.”

    I find this fairly remarkable that a player is cognizant of how a team’s record in one-run games could be relevant to future performance of said team. Podsednik is striking me as someone who might know much more about the game than the umpteenth outfielder in our minor league system who we chose to let go several years ago. This year, exclusively hitting in the leadoff spot, he has given up his power stroke entirely (0 HR’s vs 15 last year) to increase his OBP. Which seems to make sense for a leadoff hitter. That is presuming that this new approach at the plate was deliberately adopted by him when considering his role.

  6. eponymous coward on July 13th, 2005 3:31 pm

    And, of course, Raffy’s 2 hits away from 3000…with his next 4 games being against the club he LOVES to pulverize.

    I expect he’ll have them by the third inning Thursday…

  7. Eric on July 13th, 2005 3:33 pm

    EC, the only suspense is will they both be HRs

  8. matt on July 13th, 2005 3:35 pm

    Worst Run Support:

    1) Kevin Millwood 2.87
    2) V. Santos 2.88
    3) Zach Greinke 2.94
    4) Kaz Ishii 3.15
    5) Mark Redman 3.22
    6) Kip Wells 3.32
    7) Roger Clemens 3.33
    8) Russ Franklin 3.35
    9t) Brett Tomko 3.59
    9t) Shawn Estes 3.59

  9. Dash on July 13th, 2005 3:45 pm

    The last thing I read about the M’s trading Guardado was that the Red Sox and Yankees had backed out because the asking price was too high. If I remember right the source was ‘The Star Ledger’.

  10. Tom on July 13th, 2005 4:04 pm

    Do the Yankees even have anything to offer? Their cubbard is pretty bare, although, they are the Yankees and I’m sure they can drum up hype for the next Russ Davis!

  11. Different Tom on July 13th, 2005 4:19 pm

    8: From a different thread I remember Dave mentioning that Melky Cabrera, Phillip Hughes and Eric Duncan were all good prospects.

  12. Jim Osmer on July 13th, 2005 4:21 pm

    The RedSox and Yankees try hard to hype and swindle in trades. I have been more impressed with the White Sox, A’s and Braves are willing to send significant young talent for big return. Those are the teams to trade with.
    Guardado should be worth a lot. He has been a lights out lefty closer this year (well he has been lefty always).
    I wish Bavasi would get a Winn deal done now but likely it will come closer to end of month.

  13. Kulich on July 13th, 2005 4:30 pm

    What does everyone think about rushing King Felix to the show this year. He’s only 19, do we really need to bring him up this fast? He’s amazing, don’t get me wrong, but he hasn’t pitched a full season at AAA, and has “more than just a scare” injury, being held out that long. This season doesn’t seem like its going anywhere, and I’m a little scared about bringing him up this fast, he could be another Ankiel, and we sure as hell don’t want Felix trying to play outfield in the next few years. Let me know what you think about this situation.

  14. John in L.A. on July 13th, 2005 4:37 pm


    Since you asked, I am very pleased that they have waited and didn’t rush him out as soon as we get desperate…

    But bringing him up to get his feet wet and get past the jitters of first time in the majors seems like a great idea to me.

    Meaning, if we are bringing him up for his development’s sake… fantastic. If we had brought him up to save our team… anti-fantastic.

    As long as they are careful with his arm I don’t see why it would be any less safe in the majors.

  15. Russ on July 13th, 2005 4:40 pm

    Injuries are equally possible both in AAA and MLB. Where you pitch shouldn’t drive an injury risk. (provide use is managed properly)

  16. rcc on July 13th, 2005 5:34 pm

    The Red Sox acquired pitcher Chad Bradford from the A’s for outfielder Jay Payton. This may take the Red Sox out of the market for a reliever. I am very surprised that Billy Beane traded Bradford. The A’s need help in their bullpen, and Bradford has been a very good set up man. Another outfielder for the A’s is redundant….unless the “Great One” has other deals in mind.

  17. Kulich on July 13th, 2005 6:31 pm

    I understand that injury is at risk anywhere, but mental approach is a completely different animal. Look at Gavin Floyd from the Phillies. True, bad management may have played a little into this, but Grover hasn’t handled this pitching staff in an amazing fashion, as far as I’m concerned. One would think Felix would be no where near as dominant in the majors as he has been in the minors, and bringing him up to get hit around might have a big effect on his mental approach. From what I’ve heard, Felix is a strong minded kid, very smart, and very mature, but remember, he is 19. He’s basically barely out of high school, and no where near the maturity of a 23 year old. Basically, what worries I have are hurting Felix’s development by having him getting banged around after being brought up. The kid doesn’t know what it’s like to be unsuccessful as far as pitching goes, and in the event he would get hit around by veterans, it might take its toll on him. Any thoughts? And believe me, don’t take this as “he’s not good enough” or “he’s overrated”, I’m just a little worried about the mental aspect to pitching, because it’s just about as important as the physical aspect.

  18. David J Corcoran on July 13th, 2005 7:02 pm

    14: I hear Payton may be flipped to the Yankees.

  19. LB on July 13th, 2005 7:25 pm

    #14: I don;t know hw to look at the stat line for a relief pitcher and see how many days / season he was actually on the roster, but I strongly suspect that Bradford is looking at Free Agency at the end of the season, and Beane has more economical ways to get outs. Even if he is only arb-eligible, he’d be too expensive for Oakland next year. He is also coming back from surgery, so there is some injury risk tied up in him.

    #16: I would not be so sure he is going to NY. Theo Epstein’s public comments last week suggested that Payton may not be very happy with his situation where we winds up. I would expect him to play a lot if he wound up with NYY.