Olivo to Padres

JMB · July 30, 2005 at 10:07 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

From the Padres’ website:

The San Diego Padres today acquired catcher Miguel Olivo from the Seattle Mariners in exchange for catcher Miguel Ojeda and minor league right-handed pitcher Nathanel Mateo.

Olivo, you know. I think all of us here at the USS Mariner were quite high on Olivo both at the time he was acquired as well as heading into this season, and instead of taking that next step, he fell flat on his face.

Here’s Ojeda’s 2005. Here’s Mateo’s. Perhaps we’re trying to corner the market on right-handed pitchers named Mateo? BP ’05 likes his fastball-slider combo, saying his live, rubber arm (they actually say he has an Everday Eddie rubber arm, believe it or not) could make him a cheap, effective member of sombody’s 2006 bullpen.

In a very small sample, Ojeda has shown the ability to hit lefties (though we used to say that about Olivo, as you may recall). Frankly, the M’s should be overjoyed to have gotten anything at all for Olivo at this point, particularly a potentially interesting arm like Mateo. And for those of you looking for info on him, it appears his first name is actually spelled Natanael, not Nathanel as in the article.


98 Responses to “Olivo to Padres”

  1. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:00 pm
  2. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:02 pm

    Dave, i’m counting on you to tell us if anything else goes down.

  3. Bodhizefa on July 30th, 2005 11:02 pm

    Not trying to cause controversy. Just my opinion. And by the way, from the way I understood it, it wasn’t a provision in Moyer’s contract. It was his 10-5 rights (not my favorite Player’s Association rule, but hey, whatever). Nieve would’ve meant a lot to this team’s future level of competitiveness — Moyer not so much. I’m only thinking about the future of the organization, past be damned. But it’s just my opinion, and you guys certainly have a very valid reason to defend Moyer’s action. 😉

  4. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:04 pm

    Moyer deserves to be with this team until he retires. Besides, if we get rid of him, who would be our ace? Meche? Pineiro?

  5. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:06 pm

    They don’t even have new of the Olivo trade on the Seattle Times, Seattle PI, or Tacoma News Tribune website yet.

  6. Dave on July 30th, 2005 11:08 pm

    It’s 2 am here, and I’m going to bed. If the M’s make any deals while I’m sleeping, you’ll have to get your news elsewhere. Sorry.

    And the Olivo story is in the P-I article I linked to in post #25.

  7. AK1984 on July 30th, 2005 11:10 pm

    Re. #48:

    I was wrong; you’re right. Miguel Ojeda (2005: $325,000, 2006: $350,000; & 2007: $500,000 w/$25,000 buyout option) signed a three-year deal this past off-season.

  8. John in L.A. on July 30th, 2005 11:13 pm

    Bodhizefa… I certainly understand your disappointment. I share it. I don’t blame Moyer, but I do understand the disappointment.

  9. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:15 pm

    Wtf? An ice cream truck just drove by my house at 11:15. lol

  10. G-Man on July 30th, 2005 11:15 pm

    Torrealba (thanks for that Torre + Alba trick) isnn’t supposed to report until Tuesday. Do we have a second catcher for Sunday? Ojeda?

  11. Cool Papa Bell on July 30th, 2005 11:18 pm

    “Moyer deserves to be with this team until he retires. Besides, if we get rid of him, who would be our ace? Meche? Pineiro?”

    We could simply resign him again after the season.

  12. G-Man on July 30th, 2005 11:19 pm

    OK, I reread the P-I story since Dave said the second trade was in it, and it says that Ojeda will be on the team Sunday. They expect to send one of the three catchers down when Doyle is eligible to return.

  13. Ty on July 30th, 2005 11:20 pm

    I can see it coming:

    “Warming up in the bullpen are Mateo and Mateo”. “Coming into the game is Julio… Oh sorry, Nate.. No wait that’t Julio. It’s Julio Mateo.”

  14. Chuck on July 30th, 2005 11:23 pm

    I don’t get it, if we had a trade for winn in the works, why not just keep Snelling on the roster, so he’s able to take over immediatley? I don’t want to see 3 mediocre catchers on the roster and willy handling left field for the next 10 days.

  15. Seattlesundevil on July 30th, 2005 11:23 pm

    63 that is a problem I would love to have, that would mean that Nate would have the numbers and control and stuff to be on the major league team in the next year or two.. that would be nice haha

  16. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:24 pm

    I don’t think Moyer will accept any trade unless it is to a definate contender. How bout we trade Moyer for Wang?

  17. Jim Thomsen on July 30th, 2005 11:24 pm

    Back in the early 80s, the M’s at various times had two Allens on the roster (Rod Allen and Jamie Allen), two Nelsons (Jamie Nelson and Rickey Nelson) and two Hendersons (Steve Henderson and Dave Handerson).

    Oh, and two Griffeys.

    We can handle two Mateos, no sweat.

  18. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:25 pm

    Where does Dave live, anyway?

  19. AK1984 on July 30th, 2005 11:26 pm

    Trading for Miguel Ojeda a stupid move — regardless of the acquisition of minor league relief pitcher Natanael Mateo in the deal — since the M’s weren’t on the hook for Miguel Olivo past this season, and are now accountable for a 30+ year-old, below-average catcher through 2007.

    Ultimately, if Seattle plans to use Ojeda and Yorvit Torrealba as their two catchers next year — while Wiki Gonzalez earns $250,000 via his contract buyout, and Rene Rivera (who’s a quasi-prospect) & Ryan Christianson (who’s a pseudo-prospect) plod away in Tacoma — then the team will be no better off than they’ve been so far this season.

  20. John in L.A. on July 30th, 2005 11:31 pm

    I would hardly call it stupid. We are not talking about A-Rod’s salary.

    We got rid of someone who was not wroking out and picked up someone who might.

    Not a big deal, not a team-saver…. but not stupid.

  21. Gunga on July 30th, 2005 11:31 pm

    AK1984 – I don’t really get it either. On the other hand, would they be better off if they DFA’d Ojeda immediately? In other words, does the difference in salary between the rest of the year for Olivo offset the salary Ojeda have coming or at least make Mateo a really cheap pitching prospect? It might be a decent if convuluted move if so.

  22. Jim Thomsen on July 30th, 2005 11:32 pm

    Dave lives in North Carolina.

  23. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:34 pm

    Why’s he an M’s fan, then?

  24. Gunga on July 30th, 2005 11:38 pm

    Joseph, one of the things I’ve noticed that I find really cool is that M’s fans seem to be scattered around the country. Maybe it’s Ichiro or the 2001 season or something. If you look at the various chat transcripts on ESPN.com for instance, what you’ll often see is this:

    Joe in Philadelphia asks a question about the Phils
    Jane in Albany asks about the Mets
    Erik in Connecticut asks about the Mariners

    Weird, but true. Also cool.

  25. Rob on July 30th, 2005 11:39 pm


    I would take a guess that Dave is from the WA area, either grew up here or lived out here in WA for awhile. I could be wrong, but just because he might of moved doesn’t mean he quit liking the team.

  26. MsFan in DC on July 30th, 2005 11:42 pm

    Im an Ms fan who grew up in Connecticut (not erik however), moved to upstate NY, and now I go to school in DC. Have only been to Seattle once in my life, but have been a fan since I was 9 in 1993. Dont ask why, Im just random.

  27. Gunga on July 30th, 2005 11:44 pm

    I’ve always liked Connecticut 🙂

    I think Dave is from around here. But I could, uncharacteristically, be wrong.

  28. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:45 pm

    I really think we need a forum.

  29. Chuck on July 30th, 2005 11:47 pm

    southern california native here, loved the mariners since 1996. Mostly that whole Rodriguez, Griffey, RJ, Edgar superstar thing. I don’t know, but before i knew too much about baseball, it was the logo that got me into the M’s. Something about the teal and the compass rose is very cool.

  30. MsFan in DC on July 30th, 2005 11:48 pm

    Yeah, i think there was something about being slammed between Yankees and Red Sox nations that forced me to look for outside options. Anywho, been following the threads for a while now. Thanks to all who contribute. It makes following a team based hundreds of miles away quite enjoyable.

  31. John in L.A. on July 30th, 2005 11:50 pm

    I grew up there. Been a Mariner fan since they gave us free tickets for good grades in the seventies.

  32. Gunga on July 30th, 2005 11:51 pm

    John in LA – In the seventies? Are you sure you weren’t being punished?

  33. Colm on July 30th, 2005 11:52 pm

    40. 47. Ahh yes, baby Yorvit would have equal chances of looking like a complete bombshell or having a face like a burlap sack full of rocks.

    Conception would be a heck of a result for Joe Torre though. That’s way better than Lyle Lovett marrying Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts has a mouth like a two-car garage.

  34. Joseph on July 30th, 2005 11:53 pm


  35. Colm on July 30th, 2005 11:54 pm

    And what sort of a first name is Yorvit?

    (Asks the man with the oh-so normal first name)

  36. Jim Thomsen on July 30th, 2005 11:54 pm

    Dave’s from here, lives and works elsewhere. It happens sometimes.

  37. Gunga on July 30th, 2005 11:56 pm

    Personally, I’m not crazy about Alba. She looks so perfect she should be folded twice and have a staple in her belly button. Of course, she’s too young for me anyway. Luckily, I don’t really care what Yorvit (I love that name, looks like.

  38. MsFan in DC on July 30th, 2005 11:59 pm

    85. Thanks to power of google, i have discovered that Yorvit in Latin means “from the yew tree”. I know, it seems so obvious once someone points it out. Well hopefully Yew Tree Torrealba can hold down the fort till CLement is ready.

  39. Mords on July 31st, 2005 1:10 am

    “Back in the early 80s, the M’s at various times had two Allens on the roster (Rod Allen and Jamie Allen), two Nelsons (Jamie Nelson and Rickey Nelson) and two Hendersons (Steve Henderson and Dave Handerson).

    Oh, and two Griffeys.

    We can handle two Mateos, no sweat.”

    That was before Niehaus got old…

  40. Vaughn Street on July 31st, 2005 1:46 am

    #66 Houston is leading the NL wildcard by 2 games. They’re not a contender? Moyer would have been in the rotation with Clemens, Oswalt & Pettitte. Wtf… Why turn that down?

  41. Shoeless Jose on July 31st, 2005 1:47 am

    We’ve had game threads with people from 5 different time zones contributing (Japan and England, sometimes elsewhere in Europe). Some of those people are up way late to be following a game on mlb.com. (And fans on the easy coast complain about late nights when their team is on the west coast. Sheesh)

  42. Allen on July 31st, 2005 3:32 am

    Seems like this move is just a waste of time. Ojeda may actually be worse than Olivo and we are on the hook for his salary through 2007. Mateo may be interesting but looking at the track record of AA relievers making an impact in MLB, I just don’t get it. He has one pitch and is 24. Bavasi should have better ways to spend his time.

    Remember the wasted effort in the Cirillo for Jarvis/Wiki trade?

  43. tino on July 31st, 2005 8:04 am

    I like it. Ojeda seems to have a rep as a solid defensive guy and his stats show him around a 650 OPS in Petco the last few years (can’t find his early Minor/Major? League stats anywhere).

    Those numbers seem like they could translate to the Safe easy enough, and you’ve pretty much got Dan Wilson again as your backup.

    Um, without the swooning middle-age women, of course.

  44. JMB on July 31st, 2005 8:15 am

    Don’t forget the days of the “Two Martinez Lunch” (Edgar and Tino).


  45. deleted for aesthetic reasons on July 31st, 2005 8:46 am

    #90 That’s what I was wondering. Seems like Houston would have been a pretty good fit for Moyer.

  46. eponymous coward on July 31st, 2005 9:25 am

    Unless they’ve redeisgned the park lately, “The Juice Box” is notorious for not being a very pitcher-friendly park.

    This is not as much of an issue if you can strike guys out (see: rest of Astros pitching staff), but it sure is for Moyer.

    What makes me curious is why he’d turn down Atlanta (if, in fact, that was offered). It’s not like finesse pitchers haven’t done well there, and you’ve got as close to a guaranteed ticket punch for the postseason as you can get, plus a great pitching coach.

  47. Colm on July 31st, 2005 11:19 am

    90. You ever been in Texas at this time of year? I’d turn that down in a heartbeat.

  48. Karen on July 31st, 2005 7:54 pm

    Ditto Atlanta. Hubby was there in ’96 for the Olympics, in quite fit condition, and even he complained about the humidity/heat. I imagine it’s quite a shock to go from pitching most of your games in sunny cool Seattle to either of those 2 cities.