Holding Court with King Felix

DMZ · August 16, 2005 at 9:53 am · Filed Under Mariners 

David Schoenfield (Kentridge graduate) writes about Hernandez on ESPN’s Page 2.

I had to watch because I’m a Mariners fan and it’s been a stinking lousy two years. I had to watch because he’ll be a phenom with an unlimited future for only a breath of time. I had to watch because if he were pitching for the Red Sox or Yankees, the stadiums would have melted from the red-hot hype.

But he’s not with Boston or New York. He’s with the Mariners. And I had to watch Monday night because maybe — just maybe — he really is the King who can save my baseball team.

We can hope.


65 Responses to “Holding Court with King Felix”

  1. dw on August 16th, 2005 5:38 pm

    I grew up in Philly; that’s *97* years of existence before winning a series.

    Connie Mack would like a word with you.

  2. David L on August 16th, 2005 5:40 pm

    Given the number of times people in this space have said “what was that?” after a King Felix pitch and I would bet a number of KC batters were saying “what was that?” as they were walking back to the bench, “que” seems appropriate

  3. Andren on August 16th, 2005 5:53 pm

    Easy Colm. We’re gonna take the Ashes. Put Wilkinson out there and he’ll kick us to victory.

  4. Dave in Palo Alto on August 16th, 2005 6:46 pm

    Interesting story, that Connie Mack. Managed for 53 years, but had a career losing record as a manager, and managed a team into last place 15 times (including seven straight times), and only into 9 first place finishes. Maybe Bob Melvin could do better, given 53 years.

    But Connie did have longetivity working for him. Maybe the Vets committee should look at Elmer Valo.

  5. Brian on August 16th, 2005 6:53 pm

    First of all there are 5 other teams never to make the series beside the M’s . Rangers,D Rays,Astros,Rockies and Nationals(expos)

    Second, I dont blame the other picthers for giving Felix a blank look. They probably were thinking to themselves that a 19 year old kid has done more in 3 games then they have all season.

  6. Brian on August 16th, 2005 7:10 pm

    In response to #38 , the White Sox have made the world series and in football the Jets not only made the Super Bowl but won it! Remember Joe Namath and the guarantee?

  7. Brian on August 16th, 2005 7:12 pm

    oh ya the Cubs also made the series back in forties,remember the goat?

    Do your research Jason (#38)

  8. dw on August 16th, 2005 7:16 pm

    Interesting story, that Connie Mack. Managed for 53 years, but had a career losing record as a manager,

    When he was inducted into the Hall (1937) he was 2963-2496.

    and managed a team into last place 15 times (including seven straight times),

    1. He was Wayne Huezinga before he ever came along. Sold the A’s stars off for cash — twice.

    2. He did, however, have a first division finish in 1948 — at 85 years of age. He also had winning records in three of his final four seasons (all in his 80s).

    and only into 9 first place finishes.

    Nine pennants, five rings. McGraw had 10 pennants but only three rings. Sparky Anderson only had three rings. Joe McCarthy had far more rings, but he had Gehrig, Rolfe, Dickey, Lefty Gomez…

  9. Deanna on August 16th, 2005 8:26 pm

    Dylan — Oops, I should say “raised as a Phillies fan”, hence the 97 years bit.

    Yeah, that selling off his stars thing kind of sucked. I give you the 1916 Athletics (36-117), for example, as one of the worst baseball teams in history.

    (I do think Connie Mack was pretty amazing, all things considered; definitely one of the historical figures I’d put on my list of “if I had a time machine” to visit)

    I wonder how many other cities had to suffer through the indignity of having over 200 collective games lost in the same season by both their baseball teams several times? I count 8 times that happened in Philly during the 55 years they both had teams: 1936, 1941, 1921, 1939, 1940, 1938, 1945, and 1942. And that was back when seasons only had 154 games, too…

    So it could be worse! We could be sitting through TWO awful teams at once instead of just one! Without any hope of escaping the cellar! Things aren’t so bad!

  10. petec on August 17th, 2005 7:30 am


    You don’t like my math? I considered the expansion and wild card team angles but didn’t have the time to quantify it all. Suffice it to say that there is no convincing argument that the M’s have been less successful than their expected performance over the franchise’s existence. As far as the long ramp-up to championship quality, I submit the D-backs and Marlins.

    >>Yeah, stupid World Wars and stuff

    Nice. You know what I meant. To me, at least, winning championships or rooting your team on in the finals is about getting excited about what’s happening right now. I don’t spend a lot of time reveling in the fact that Seattle had a Stanley Cup champ in 1917.

    >>Whining can be fun!

    Lamenting Seattle’s pitiful sports history wasn’t gratutious whining. It was in response to someone else whining about the negativity about Seattle sports. I was pointing out that it’s not without reason.

    >>and… wait, were you demanding a championship in 2009?

    Uhhhh. No. Now you’re just making shit up.

  11. petec on August 17th, 2005 7:41 am

    >>there is no convincing argument that the M’s have been less successful

    Make that “more successful”.

  12. Jason on August 17th, 2005 8:18 am

    #56/#57, I’ll do my research once you do your reading. I said “Since the Mariners/Seahawks entered MLB/the NFL” these teams have not reached the World Series/Super Bowl. I said nothing about them never reaching the World Series/Super Bowl. Obviously both Chicago ball culbs and the Jets have reached their respective championships in their history (as have KC and the Colts when they were in Baltimore), but not since the Seattle teams have been in the league.

    One typo though. I wrote that Cinci. had never reached the Super Bowl since the Seahawks joined, but I meant to write Cleveland. Cinci faced the 49ers in 1982.

  13. petec on August 17th, 2005 8:31 am

    >>And actually, I’m pretty sure there’s a moniker for people who whine if their team isn’t perennially in the World Series, and I think it’s “Yankees Fan”, if I’m not mistaken…

    I was gonna let this go, but it’s gnawing at me like a rat on a piece of cheese.

    Me: With a single exception, Seattle teams have never been in the championship game or series since the Sonics won the ’79 championship

    Yankee fans (according to Deanna): whine if their team isn’t in the WS every single year

    Deanna: These are equivalent comments.

    Me again: Don’t make up straw man arguments and lambaste someone for an argument they never made. It makes you look petty and foolish and betrays the fact that you can’t debate on the merits.

  14. Brian on August 17th, 2005 11:34 am

    in response to #62. Houston did not have a team for just a “few” years. It was a little longer that that. The Houston Oilers became the Tennessee Oilers and then the Titans. Who made the Super Bowl.

    Seven degrees

  15. Jason on August 17th, 2005 12:12 pm

    #64, 1996 was the last year of the Houston Oilers, and 2002 was the first year of the Houston Texans. So that’s 5 seasons that Houston were without a NFL team. I think 5 counts as a “few” years.

    And Tennessee winning doesn’t help the fact that Houston doesn’t have a winning team, unless you want to count Cleveland as having a team in the Super Bowl because Baltimore got there.