Game 144, Angels at Mariners

Dave · September 13, 2005 at 6:49 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Ryan Franklin is pitching. You probably have something more important to do than watch this game.


144 Responses to “Game 144, Angels at Mariners”

  1. Long Suffering on September 13th, 2005 9:20 pm

    Does someone know if there’s been win% w/utility charts done on various 9th inning situations? I remember reading (I think on Lookout Landing) about the tie game, bottom 9th, runner on first do you bunt or not. The expected runs drops, but the utility function rises since you only need 1 run.

    I was wondering because if you had Ibanez bunt Reed over, I’d think they’d intent walk Sexson putting 1st and 2nd with 1 out. I wonder if that’s more conducive to getting 1 run than 1st – no out.

    What a bizarre 9th inning so far.

  2. goodbye baseball on September 13th, 2005 9:21 pm

    97. Yeah, you’d usually think the second baseman deflected the ball to the centerfielder who makes the catch for out number one. And the throw to first does the rest.

    Mariners win!! Dobbs!!!! Woo Hoo!!!!

  3. shigelojoe on September 13th, 2005 9:21 pm

    That was unexpected yet welcome!

  4. G-Man on September 13th, 2005 9:21 pm

    #93 – yeah, their system might blow a fuse on that one.

    Well, now the IBB to Beltre. More interesting all the time. At least we should get some time on SportsCenter with all this stuff.


  5. LB on September 13th, 2005 9:21 pm

    63 wins. Last year it took the whole season to get to this point.

  6. Dave in Palo Alto on September 13th, 2005 9:21 pm

    Dobbster!!! What a sweet swing!!!!

  7. Saul on September 13th, 2005 9:22 pm


  8. Jim Thomsen on September 13th, 2005 9:23 pm

    So is this actually a bad thing, in that Dobbs’ stock rises higher within the organization (as if that’s possible)? Is this one time we should have rooted against a game-winning hit?

  9. shigelojoe on September 13th, 2005 9:23 pm

    How crazy is this: if the Mariners win tomorrow, they will split the season series with the Angels 9-9.

  10. LB on September 13th, 2005 9:24 pm

    And Rizzs says, “Maybe, just maybe, we’re really seeing this ballclub really here come together at the of the season.”

    Profound. When do they send out the order form for playoff tickets?

  11. goodbye baseball on September 13th, 2005 9:26 pm

    108. Worry about that in the offseason. I’ll take the win tonight.

    110. 2008. 🙂

  12. Jim Thomsen on September 13th, 2005 9:26 pm

    Did you see the team and the Moose storm the field like it was Game 6 of the 1995 ALCS? Geez, guys ….

  13. Jim Thomsen on September 13th, 2005 9:27 pm

    Sorry, ALDS.

  14. Long Suffering on September 13th, 2005 9:27 pm

    Why not? Good to see them show some damn enthusiasm.

  15. LB on September 13th, 2005 9:30 pm

    #112: That damned moose charges out on the field waving the stupid flag after every home win.

    It’s stupid and I wish they’d cut it out, but add it to the list: dancing groundskeepers and YMCA and Cotton-Eyed Joe and hydro races and … and … and …

    They don’t care what I think. I own season tickets, so they already have me by the wallet.

  16. Smegmalicious on September 13th, 2005 9:34 pm

    HAhahahaha…the jokes on us. Now we get to see more Gregg “DH” Dobbs!

  17. LB on September 13th, 2005 9:40 pm

    #116: Could be worse. Imagine if it had been Spiezio.

  18. Jim Thomsen on September 13th, 2005 9:40 pm

    Who let the Dobbs out?

  19. Gunga on September 13th, 2005 9:43 pm

    Jim, I’d groan but it wouldn’t be fair… cause I laughed.

  20. msb on September 13th, 2005 9:43 pm

    austinspace said:”Has anyone every called Erstad “Erstey” before? Neihaus just did.”

    just about everybody, it’s his nickname. you see, the Ms don’t actually hold the patent on -ey nicknames, it just seems like it sometimes.

    Jim Thomsen said:”Did you see the team and the Moose storm the field like it was Game 6 of the 1995 ALCS? Geez, guys …”

    I dunno, I kinda felt like storming something after finally getting a win like that this season….

  21. msb on September 13th, 2005 9:54 pm

    so, anyone seen Joe Saunders (tomorrow’s Angel starter) pitch vs Tacoma? I gather he made a good spot start against the Jays last month….

  22. JasonAChurchill on September 13th, 2005 10:15 pm

    re: 121 –

    Yeah, he threw eight shutout innings at Tacoma in the second week of August. Six K’s, four hits and a walk. But the Rainiers lineup wasn’t very good.

    He was topping out in the low 90s with good control.

    I think he’s very hittable, however.

  23. argh on September 13th, 2005 10:16 pm

    Ah, that was a fun game to watch and to win. Self confidence never hurts in sports — it ain’t nearly everything, but maybe there will be a little positive carry-over from tonight. No question (as I’ve learned from the announcers) that this is a better looking team than we saw back in April to July. Still not play-off material, but there’s something there, beginning to stir.

  24. argh on September 13th, 2005 10:18 pm

    Krugman in the post-game says:

    “That’s a Ryan Franklin kind of performance.”

    Uh, no.

  25. JasonAChurchill on September 13th, 2005 10:30 pm

    I wonder why FSN sees Krueger as some sorta draw to their telecast?

    I wonder how much navy colored kool-aid Mrs. Krueger buys at the local QFC.

    I wonder when FSN and the M’s will hire good analysts, instead of Mariner family members.

    Probably never.

    Can we get a pre and post-game appearance from Derek or Dave? Someone who would be honest at least?

    Corco, you up for a TV appearance?

  26. Colm on September 13th, 2005 10:53 pm

    LB: “Maybe, just maybe, we’re seeing this tired old hack clutching at straws.”

  27. lisa on September 13th, 2005 10:54 pm

    how about a derek / dave podcast?

  28. LB on September 13th, 2005 11:00 pm

    #125: The contrast with NESN (Red Sox TV) couldn’t be greater. Their studio analyst, Dennis Eckersely, did not hesitate to rip Keith Foulke a new one when Foulke was blowing saves early in the year, nor was he shy about going after Curt Schilling (who is quite a hero in New England, as well he should be) through his struggles this year.

  29. Jim Thomsen on September 13th, 2005 11:02 pm

    From a recent story in the San Diego Union-Tribune:

    “Unable to meet great expectations as a Seattle Mariner, catcher Miguel Olivo has blown away lighter expectations since coming to the Padres five weeks ago in a three-player trade that was met with yawns.

    Olivo replaced former All-Star catcher Ramon Hernandez, whom several teammates had described as a vital cog, and boosted a Padres club that holds a 5-game lead in the National League West entering tonight’s game against last-place Colorado at Petco Park.

    Since being acquired from the Mariners five weeks ago, catcher Miguel Olivo has hit .320 with four home runs and 16 RBI in 97 at-bats for the Padres.
    Olivo, 27, has batted .320 with four home runs and 16 RBI in 97 at-bats for the Padres, and his defense and team ethic have earned praise from teammates and manager Bruce Bochy.

    “He really saved our hide,” closer Trevor Hoffman said.

    “We caught lightning in a bottle,” said Bochy.

    “He’s been priceless back there,” utility catcher Robert Fick said.

    Olivo said he’s working as hard as he did with the Mariners, but he has learned to tap into raw talents that earned solid marks from scouts for several years.

    He said his new surroundings and early success as a Padre restored vital confidence that leaked during two poor half-seasons with Seattle, which dealt a front-line pitcher, Freddy Garcia, to the White Sox to get Olivo and two minor leaguers in June 2004.

    “I have all of my confidence back,” Olivo said. “The manager gives me an opportunity to play. He trusts me. I feel like I’m part of the team. I feel so comfortable. I needed something. I needed new faces, a new team. I’m glad I’m here.”

  30. Jason on September 13th, 2005 11:06 pm

    what the hell is with the cynical a-holeness of the authors lately? i know this isn’t the mariner optimist or whatever, but wtf?

    that nostalgia post recently rocked. “You probably have something more important to do than watch this game.” not so much.

  31. Rey Quinones on September 13th, 2005 11:12 pm


    I, for one, would be a guaranteed listener to anything DMZ podcasted…or podcasteded…or podcastered…

  32. Cool Papa Bell on September 13th, 2005 11:15 pm

    Olivo has two unintentional walks versus 26 strikeouts. I really don’t think he can sustain his success.

  33. Deanna on September 14th, 2005 12:21 am

    Bah. I was there tonight. It was a fun, fast game. I enjoyed it. Yuniesky Betancourt got enough hits that I didn’t have to feel bad for raving so much about his defense (including that sweeeeet barehand play in the first inning). Jeremy Reed is still the man as well. The Moose came out and harrassed the whole section I was sitting in. That, and waving flags, is what he’s supposed to do. It was nice to be at a Mariners Win game, after so many losses I’ve been at recently.

    I like the dancing groundskeepers. No, really. That’s pretty unique, isn’t it? Hydro-whatever races and Cotton Eye Joe are not unique. Ditch those.

    Would you believe, I didn’t even notice the extra infielder? I just thought there was some weird shift going on. I wrote 6-4-3 on my scorecard. Oops. Then I looked up and wondered where Izturis had popped out of.

    Dobby the bench elf shows us his MAGIC!

    man, I’m tired.

  34. David J Corcoran on September 14th, 2005 6:48 am

    125: Corco did three radio commercials yesterday and is doing the weather for the next 48 hours plus a couple more radio commercials tomorrow. My voice is tired.

  35. Gomez on September 14th, 2005 9:29 am

    Deanna, Macier the Impturis has this thing for popping up in the infield at the worst possible time. I’d call him the Imptrollis but I see no bridge at 2nd base.

    I also have to call the Dancing Dirtpushers’ routine to It’s Raining Men an upgrade. Not that I didn’t like the Boogie Shoes routine, but this new routine’s much better. I just hope the cartwheelers’ hands don’t slip one day and break their necks on the dirt.

    Dobbs came up HUGE. Now, Dobber I could like, so long as he gives us more of what he did last night and less of this popped up and struck out looking business. Oh, and losing the Spiezio Caterpillar on his chin would help as well. It looks like Dobber’s making progress, and I have no problem with batting a New and Somewhat Improved Dobber at “DH”.

  36. Brian Rust on September 14th, 2005 9:29 am

    Well, I had something better to do . . . whatever my wife wanted to do. See, she’s one of those who would be watching if the M’s were in contention. Oh, she likes baseball, all right, she just thinks I’m being silly if I watch “meaningless” games every night in September. And she’s right.

    Of course, part of the charm of baseball (like college as opposed to NFL football) is that anything can happen. So I pick up the action with sacks full of Angels, no outs in the ninth. Here I must give credit to the FO — at least we had a good lefty to bring in against Erstad. Sure enough, we get a great DP that was anything but routine. Sweet defensive inning by Beltre. And then, Reed bunts on, and Los LOOGY-lacking Angeles give up a base hit to Ibañez. Great move by Scoscia in the perfect situation for a 5-man infield, and Shields makes it pay off. A meaningless IBB, indifference obviates the force at 2nd, then Dobbs lines the game-winner up the middle. Damn, he was beaming in the post-game interview.

    You’re pretty cynical if this win doesn’t make you feel good, and from the on-field celebration I’d say the players aren’t cynical. The ability to win consistently is NEVER hurt by a little FIRE.

  37. LB on September 14th, 2005 10:13 am

    #133: No. Dancing groundskeepers were ripped off from Yankee Stadium (as was Cotton-Eyed Joe).

  38. LB on September 14th, 2005 10:15 am

    #136: Players celebrating after a walk-off hit is fine. It’d be disturbing if it didn’t happen. The damned Moose on the field waving the M’s flag after every home win (count ’em: 36!) is what’s stupid.

  39. Deanna on September 14th, 2005 10:51 am

    137 – When I was at Yankees Stadium, all I saw the groundskeepers do was put their arms in the air to YMCA as they swept the field, which was nowhere near as cool as ours.

    Anyway, you know, there are a lot of people who don’t go to more than one or two games a year, and if they happen to be there when the Mariners win, it’s great for them to see a celebration afterwards like that, to feel like winning counts no matter when it happens. (Heck, there are probably plenty of people there who have no clue how well the Mariners are doing this year.) I’ve been to about 35 home games this year, probably more, and I *like* the flag and the celebration and all. Heck, I wouldn’t even have a problem with them adding fireworks.

    Fifteen years from now, some kid will be grown up and reminiscing on a blog somewhere about her first baseball game being with the Mariners in 2005, when they suuuuucked, but she got to see them beat the Angels in a crazy 9th inning surge and the team all celebrated and the Moose came out and waved the flag like a madman and the ushers gave her some baseball cards.

  40. Brian Rust on September 14th, 2005 12:00 pm

    A Moose with a flag is ALWAYS better than hearing Sinatra sing “New York, New York.”

  41. Xteve X on September 14th, 2005 12:58 pm

    One thing I’d like to see improve next year is the bunting … I’ve noticed that Reed in particular needs a lot of work on it. Instead of bunting the ball down the 3rd base line he pops it up quite a bit for easy outs. He needs to work on smacking the ball down, badly. That play early in the game that was close to a trap shouldn’t ever have been that close.

  42. Brian Rust on September 14th, 2005 1:13 pm

    Yeah, well he needs to work even more on smacking the ball deep into an outfield gap.

  43. LB on September 14th, 2005 2:27 pm

    #139: New York actually did the M’s one better, by hiring professional dancers (presumably out of work, not hard to find in NYC), dressing them up in groundskeeper outfits, and sending them out to rake the Yankee Stadium infield. Then they did their routine. I doubt they do it every game, but then neither do the M’s.

    Update: according to, the act started at Tiger Stadium before it got going in NY.

    There is very little that is original in baseball. Once last year, they tried playing “Sweet Caroline” at Safeco (as they do in Fenway Park), but the crowd didn’t know their part, and I never heard it at Safeco again.

  44. Deanna on September 14th, 2005 2:50 pm

    143 – Yeah, I found that page after posting the comment. At least the Safeco groundskeepers are real. They were working players’ daughters into the act earlier in the year, too, which was cool.

    They play “Sweet Caroline” EVERYWHERE these days… they played it at RFK when I was there last week, too. And I’ve heard them play it at Safeco this year a few times, but each time everyone just sort of looks around like “Wait, this isn’t Fenway,” and goes off to lynch the dude in the music booth who has a penchant for Neil Diamond (one of those games, they also played that “they’re comin’ to America” song for Jeff Nelson’s entrance, and he looked up from the mound like “What? Since when is Neil Diamond the same thing as Alan Jackson? Hel-LO?”)