Matsuzaka Will Ask Seibu To Post Him
Jeff · October 17, 2005 at 8:33 am · Filed Under General baseball, Mariners
Seibu sounds unconvinced about doing so, but the Japan Times is reporting that Daisuke Matsuzaka will ask his team to post him this offseason.
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“The Japanese system as noted elsewhere in this thread, grants teams much longer control over a player than does MLB.”
I’m well aware of the 9 year FA rule, but remember the Yomiuri Giants and Tsuneo Watanabe are as anyone in the know in the NPB(ad hominem)will get what they want. Yes, granted this is starting to break down with the merger of Orix-Kintestu last year, but most people here forget or don’t understand that Tsuneo Watanabe is a major power in the NPB, due to the lack of knowledge about NPB.
“Which logical fallacy is this? That’s right the red herring!”
What it explains is why NPB free agency is what it is, and why free agency is the way it is so much because of Tsuneo Watanabe.
Also, I feel insulted here that you would attempt to use a analogy “red herring” to describe my arguement as I am one of the biggest contributors to Japanese Baseball.com and very active there. Your comment is insulting and in a way very disgraceful. I feel that I shouldn’t be referred to into a “red herring” comment because I attempted to describe the FA system and Tsuneo Watanabe.
I seriously feel like my comments are well justified and well thought and not what you call a “red herring” arguement” as I was cited in the New Years address for Japanese Baseball, and also cited for being active in answering numerous of the daily questions there.
All in all, I have no wish to discuss this no more as I have been convinced that I be referred to in a hostile manner for my comment.
http://www.japanesebaseball.com/forum/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=5889
http://www.japanesebaseball.com/forum/thread.jsp?forum=31&thread=12819#45000
Also, I feel insulted here that you would attempt to use a analogy “red herring†to describe my arguement as I am one of the biggest contributors to Japanese Baseball.com and very active there.
It’s not insulting, it’s just a description. We were discussing the nature of team control on players. Arguing that free agency (which wasn’t what we were talking about) favors one team was beside the point.
Your comment is insulting and in a way very disgraceful.
While I’m sorry you feel that way, Jeff’s comment was neither.
I feel that I shouldn’t be referred to into a “red herring†comment because I attempted to describe the FA system and Tsuneo Watanabe.
But that’s a description of what happened — you jumped from something else to arguing something outside the conversation. It’s neither good or bad that it’s a red herring. There’s nothing personal there.
I seriously feel like my comments are well justified and well thought and not what you call a “red herring†arguement†as I was cited in the New Years address for Japanese Baseball, and also cited for being active in answering numerous of the daily questions there.
See, this is another jump in logic. Whether or not your comment was a jump from what was being discussed and was, as Jeff says, a red herring, has nothing to do with your contributions to another internet site, or answering questions in forums. While it does certainly speak to your interest in the matter and possibly your giving nature, I should then say that Jeff’s the nicest guy you’ll ever chance to meet, and meant nothing personal in applying a label to what happened.
I hope that you can calmly re-consider this, and see that there’s no personal attack anywhere here, implied or overt.
Despite my previous comment not to discuss this no more, I will again.
First off being called a “red herring” is one thing I’m not used to being called, which is mainly why I was so put off by it. Second, off with me I have a major problem with going on and on about a subject like I have here. I’m on the meanhand find Japanese baseball more interesting than Major League Baseball. So, like you said in the last post the posts here on Japanese baseball is what sparks my interest.
I finally will finish this off by saying that I like this site and don’t mean any ill will, just that I go on and on at times and like to discuss Japanese baseball when it brought up. As I think this site is a great well-put together site.
As a Giants fan, I’m hoping the big money gets thrown at Matsuzaka, while the Giants can scoop up Koji Uehara on the cheap. Matsuzaka >>>>> Uehara, but still….