M’s trade Torrealba

Dave · December 7, 2005 at 8:52 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

No big surprise, as the long rumored Torrealba to Colorado deal finally gets done. The fact that its for a PTBNL almost certainly means that it’s a rule 5 eligible player, and the M’s will announce who they’re receiving after he’s not selected in tomorrow’s draft.

I know it won’t be a popular sentiment, but Bavasi was clear all along that after signing Johjima, the M’s would accommodate Torrealba if another team was interested in giving him an everyday job. The fact that the M’s trade something of value as essentially a favor will get under some people’s skin, but I don’t really have a problem with it. It’s a classy thing to do, and I’m sure Torrealba appreciates the chance to go have a real career before it’s too late.


121 Responses to “M’s trade Torrealba”

  1. MacMariner on December 8th, 2005 7:25 am

    Seattle’s 40 man roster was full.

  2. Scooter the mighty on December 8th, 2005 7:34 am

    #80 I think the sooner that people around here accept that Doyle is too fragile to ever be a major part of this team, the, uh, less depressed y’all are going to end up being. The guy has knees entirely comprised of scar tissue, and when he tries to run they break.

  3. eponymous coward on December 8th, 2005 7:44 am

    Don’t say Larry Stone didn’t warn you.


    If nothing goes wrong, the signing of Everett, a 34-year-old switch-hitter, could be announced any day, but possibly not until next week. The Mariners need to clear a spot on the 40-man roster for Everett, who hit .251 with 23 homers and 87 RBI for the Chicago White Sox last year and figures to serve as Seattle’s designated hitter.

    Meanwhile, with Scott Boras positioning Kevin Millwood for a five-year contract that the Mariners have no intention of giving, the club has made Matt Morris its primary free-agent pitching target. The Giants and Rangers are their top competitors.

    The Mariners also made a minor trade, sending catcher Yorvit Torrealba to the Colorado Rockies for a player to be named. That player, believed to be a pitcher off the Rockies’ 40-man roster, is likely to be named today, possibly after the Rule 5 draft.

    Millwood on a 5 year deal isn’t great…but those projected signings mske me wince in pain.

  4. newbie on December 8th, 2005 7:44 am

    Is Millwood on a five year deal, out of the question? That length of contract scares me, but the dropoff to Matt Morris is huge and scares me more.

    I think Millwood could turn out to be worth it, but I won’t underestimate Scott Boras using whatever means necessary to beat the Burnett contract. Truthfully, if staying competitive and filling up Safeco wasn’t a priority, I’d say screw Millwood and Morris and sign younger less proven guys with potential.

    Loaiza is looking like a bigger and bigger loss everyday…

  5. Mr. X on December 8th, 2005 7:45 am

    Unbelievable that Bavasi felt it was necessary to deal Torrealba just so that he could be a starter “somewhere”. Who cares if the team is worse now because of it right? Torrealba, who has been with the Mariners for a grand total of 42 games had the juice to request a trade, and Bavasi relents? This is disgusting on so many levels.

  6. eponymous coward on December 8th, 2005 7:52 am

    The M’s have a higher opinion of Rivera than we do, based on his 2005 cup of coffee (see Bloomquist, Willie). I would guess they don’t see there being a huge dropoff, plus they save a few hundred thousand.

    My guess is, though, if you loved the 2005 bench the 2006 bench will be very similar- and if you thought the 2005 bench was one of the worst you’ve ever seen 2006 won’t be a big improvement. I’m guessing it’s Dobbs+Rivera+Willie B (unless he gets traded)+4th OF, and the staff has 12 pitchers.

  7. newbie on December 8th, 2005 7:54 am

    Well here’s your wild hair idea for the day, and so much for the Torrealba thread:

    Roger Clemens for 1 year $19 million…you get your ace for just a year in a crumby market, and give the King a chance to get his feet wet.

    So much for intelligent spending, but it’s only a 1 year deal and next year’s FA starters are SO much better than this year’s!

  8. Provo M's Fan on December 8th, 2005 8:00 am

    So I just read that Joe Mays was not offer arbitration by the Twins, maybe that could be a good 4-5 guy for the rotation. former all-star with a decent arm.

    Also, of of ESPN’s talking heads thought yesterday that the Mariners were the destination for Millwood. And really I don’t hear any grumblings about his going anywhere else, so once Boras gets off his most recent drug induced belief that at 30 year old righty should get more than a 28 year old with 98 MPH stuff then the M’s should land him. Millwood and Mays (or maybe Clement by trade) not a bad Christmas after all.

  9. DJ on December 8th, 2005 8:01 am

    Who cares about the Torrealba trade. In hindsight it probably would of been better to trade him earlier this month before all the catcher trades lowered his value, but do we really think anyone out there was pounding down the door to pick this guy up? The best part of it all is once Torrealba starts hitting in Denver everyone is going to freak out thinking we traded away another Varitek and didn’t even get a Heathcliff in return. He’s gotten his chance to be a full time catcher, we cleared some space for something more pressing, and we can pick up a backup catcher anywhere so Rivera can get things polished in minors.

    The bigger issue is what is going on in the Front office? Is this their way of politely bowing out and slashing payroll…..Instead of trying to get Jones for 3 years at $5-7 a year they pick up Everett for 1 year at probably $4. Instead of dropping $44-$50 for 4-5 years on Millwood they go after Morris for hopefully no more than $5-$6 a year for a year or two. If your going to go for bargin players at least pick up some guys who are young and could grow, not aging players who are on the decline!

    Starting to think a the Florida Marlins would be a perfect fit in Portland in 2007!

  10. Tod on December 8th, 2005 8:04 am

    In addition to Morris being a injury time bomb, there are two problems with him being Seattle’s target: he was offered arbitration so we’d have to give up our second round pick and SF is reported by the San Jose Mercury to have already offered him two years at $9 million each. As Dave warned us early on, that’s too much money for the guy.

  11. Polo Grounds Mariner on December 8th, 2005 8:05 am

    Well, the Rox picked up Luis Enrique Gonzales in the MLB portion of the Rule 5. He will be a LHP reliever… a perfect replacement for Carjaval in their bullpen.

    JoeJessica for Carjaval is great. Kudos for Bavasi.

  12. Jojima_Yay on December 8th, 2005 8:12 am

    Any confirmation on who the M’s got back from the Rockies for Torrealba yet??? I think it should be reported already, although it may not be posted anywhere yet… I know we may be dreaming, but if it is Carjaval, Bavasi got a great deal.

  13. rockymariner on December 8th, 2005 8:17 am

    The Rox have been after JoeJessica for some time actually. Before we acquired him even, so I wouldn’t be surprised if we get someone pretty decent out of the deal. And really there is no reason to flip out and declare Bavasi brain dead before we even find out who we got in the deal.

  14. MacMariner on December 8th, 2005 8:19 am

    It probably won’t be announced for quite a while.

  15. Polo Grounds Mariner on December 8th, 2005 8:20 am
  16. Jim Thomsen on December 8th, 2005 8:23 am

    [ot, there’s a post for this]

  17. IaMsFan on December 8th, 2005 8:29 am

    Re: 114
    Yep. Rockies confirm it on their website. It’s Carjaval. I’ll happily eat crow. Perhaps that sends Mateo as part of a package out of town for a LH stick?

  18. DJ on December 8th, 2005 8:32 am

    Torrealba for Carjaval is probably as good as we could hope for, if not better. So pick those chins up off the floor.

    Probably a good thing the M’s picked up Carjaval with him pitching only a year in CO. When he was in the Dodgers farm system he had very impressive numbers, but never pitched higher than A ball. So CO picks him up and dumps him straight into the majors, at Coors field no less!!!! Still to have a ERA around 5, at his age, at 5200 feet….things look pretty good.

    Question is will the M’s try and convert him back to a starter?

  19. Paul B on December 8th, 2005 8:42 am

    Regarding no choice on the Rule 5 draft, the M’s decided that Dobbs is better than anything available.


  20. Maxwell Edison on December 8th, 2005 9:37 am

    Nice job Bobbydon. Whoever you are, you are apparently a pretty smart guy.

  21. Jojima_Yay on December 8th, 2005 10:40 am

    Damn it! Great trade!!! 😀
    And I think it was posted on Dr. D’s site or something, but his ERA at Coors was like in the 1~2 range, and it was like 5 away from Coors.

    Amazing pickup for the M’s.