Franklin non-tendered

JMB · December 20, 2005 at 8:21 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

The M’s will not offer contracts to Ryan Franklin, Cha Baek, and Jamal Strong, making all three free agents. Gil Meche, however, will be offered a contract.


79 Responses to “Franklin non-tendered”

  1. mln on December 20th, 2005 11:47 pm

    At least Willie Bloomquist remains a Mariner for another year. That’s the only thing that counts.

  2. mariners on December 20th, 2005 11:56 pm

    Eric Byrnes REALLY interests me… Hes a guy that can REALLY try hard… Since Everett isn’t very good against lefties and even Ibanez for that matter put Byrnes in LF against lefties and have Raul Ibanez or Carl Everett DH can’t go wrong there… Byrnes would be a perfect late inning defensive guy and would strengthen our bench…Also look at the difference between last years starting rotations and this one:


    1. Jamie Moyer
    2. Joel Pineiro
    3. Gil Meche
    4. Aaron Sele
    5. Bobby Madristch


    1. Felix Hernandez
    2. Jarrod Washburn
    3. Joel Pineiro
    4. Jamie Moyer
    5. Gil Meche

    Thats a BIG upgrade in ptiching

  3. Douglas on December 21st, 2005 12:05 am

    I don’t see much difference in that Rotation there “mariners” Madritstch never really pitched and who knows what we will get with Washie….. We need something more and I don’t think trading Reed would be so bad as long as we got an “2nd” arm in return.

  4. Douglas on December 21st, 2005 12:08 am

    Patterson would be just as good to me in Center and arms is what has made us good in the past. I think Clement could be a possability in Safeco and Arroyo is young and unproven just as Reed is. We don’t have much to loose considering thats all we did last year.

  5. mariners on December 21st, 2005 12:12 am

    If we trade Reed which I don’t hope we do we better get patterson or Byrnes… I don’t think Clement or Arroyo really bring that much more to the table than Meche to justify getting rid of Jeremy Reed

  6. Jeff Nye on December 21st, 2005 12:25 am

    A little bit of good news in among all the bad!

  7. King Dog on December 21st, 2005 12:32 am

    What do we know about LHP Jake Woods, whom we just picked up off the waiver wire from the LA Angels?

  8. Mr. Egaas on December 21st, 2005 12:35 am

    A bit has been said about Woods in other threads. He’s a control guy who will probably compete for a bullpen job in Spring training but likely to start the year in Tacoma

  9. Monk Mojo on December 21st, 2005 12:36 am

    #51 i luv boomboom 🙂

  10. Optimistic? on December 21st, 2005 12:39 am

    I would defnitely take Byrnes over Patterson, although both are somewhat similar in that they had tremendous upside in the past, both are semi-young and both can definitely go and get the ball…

    Rotation of
    Papelbon (i know i know… but one can hope right?)


    I could definitely get more optimistic with that roster than the beginning of last year…

  11. Jim Thomsen on December 21st, 2005 12:41 am

    #57: Dave addressed Woods here in comment #71:

  12. Tom on December 21st, 2005 12:43 am

    Wake up, people: The only reason Arroyo is considered good is because he happened to be on a team that won the World Series. He is not a good pitcher. And there’s a difference between being unproven after 1+ years in the majors (Reed) and unproven after 4+ years in the majors (Arroyo).
    Reed for Arroyo is a worse transaction than the Washburn contract.

  13. Allen Jacobs on December 21st, 2005 12:51 am

    Going back to the Brazelton discuss…would you rather have him or Atchison on your 40 man roster?

  14. Jim Thomsen on December 21st, 2005 1:10 am

    #63: I’d take Atchison in a heartbeat. The guy may not have Grade-A stuff, but he’s a strike-throwing automaton who can do just fine in a low-leverage relief role.

    Brazelton, on the other hand, is only a good gamble if you believe he can develop that third pitch to complete his moving fastball and decent changeup. He hasn’t so far, and baseball history is littered with guys just like him who were two-trick ponies that were solved all too easily. He might turn it around, but given his sketchy personal history and perceived uncoachability, do you want to take that chance?

  15. adam on December 21st, 2005 1:41 am

    Brazelton may have value as a reliever. If they don’t trade Meche I think they should find out how he does as a reliever as well.

  16. Terry on December 21st, 2005 6:26 am

    #35, i thought Damon went out of his way to be gratious to the fans as well as not to *blame* the Bosox (i.e. kind of indicated it was out of their hands).

  17. Melvin Bob on December 21st, 2005 6:39 am

    Arroyo a good young pitcher? He’s 29 years old. What you see with Arroyo is what you get; a 29 year old fifth starter who can’t strike anyone out. Plus, he’s a free agent after this year. Trading Reed for Arroyo is a horrible idea.

  18. DJ on December 21st, 2005 7:00 am

    Did anyone else notice that Olivo was non-tendered by San Diego?

  19. Melvin Bob on December 21st, 2005 7:09 am

    #68 The Padres were set on cutting David Ross but Olivo was asking for too much.

  20. AZ lvl's fan on December 21st, 2005 8:13 am

    Just some light poll results on Yahoo! (I know it isn’t expert info but …)

    Question: Who has the best pitching staff in the AL West?

    Thanks for voting! 18069 votes since Dec 20 2005
    Angels 43% 7783 votes
    Athletics 41% 7329 votes
    Rangers 6% 1025 votes
    Mariners 11% 1932 votes

    Kinda how I suspect the results will be for 06 W/L record.

  21. Andren on December 21st, 2005 8:19 am
  22. Andren on December 21st, 2005 8:21 am
  23. kevin on December 21st, 2005 9:25 am

    #50 “Tacoma’s pitching staff is pretty full”

    I curious as to how it projects right now…

    Will Blackley start the season there or is he still rehabing?

    Are Bazardo and Carvajal going to be in the rotation or the pen? Can we option Woods to Tacoma or will he have to be DFA if he doesn’t make the team? Lorraine? Moss? Heaverlo?

  24. msb on December 21st, 2005 10:05 am

    Franklin is saying all the right things….

    “But my heart has always been with the Mariners. Seattle felt like home to me. There’s no doubt that I wanted to come back. I wanted to stay, but this is a business … I understand that. Everything the Mariners did for me, I appreciate it,” Franklin said. “I made a lot of good friends there. They are good people. I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of hard luck in Seattle, but I could have pitched a lot better, too. But I didn’t. And that’s the way it goes.”

  25. D. J. on December 21st, 2005 10:38 am

    As with all trades, the main question for Boston about Reed is “how much is he worth to you?” For once, BB appears to be in the drivers seat in that he doesn’t have to do anything…keeping Reed in Seattle is a perfectly acceptable option. It all depends on how much Boston is willing to part with in order to get Jeremy.

    And then, of course, you come down to their evaluation of what Boston may offer in return. That’s where it gets interesting…

  26. joran on December 21st, 2005 1:35 pm

    Keep Reed. He is a young good CF.

  27. Glenn R. on December 21st, 2005 5:22 pm

    I agree– Keep Reed! I don’t want to see him become the next Jason Varitek!

    The enthusiasm of Red Sox stat-bloggers, and their desire to obtain him only reinforces my feelings about it. For example, great breakdown here:

  28. RickL on December 21st, 2005 6:00 pm

    Given what Loiza got, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Franklin sign for a significant increase i salary.

  29. Evan on December 22nd, 2005 10:17 am

    I can’t imagine that fight Franklin had with Beltre in the dugout last season helped his chances any.