Game 56, Royals at Mariners

DMZ · June 2, 2006 at 6:31 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

RHP Bob Keppel v LHP Jamie Moyer.

Beltre sticks in the #2 hole for… some reason, making it Ichiro!/Beltre/Lopez/Ibanez/Sexson/Everett/Johjima/Reed/Betancourt.

I’m hoping the M’s can pick up some cheap wins this series, but I fear it’ll be a badly-played batch of contests.

Comments

233 Responses to “Game 56, Royals at Mariners”

  1. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 6:50 pm

    Cheer up man! We’re going to win tonight!!! Woo Hoo!!!

    I like exclamation points!

  2. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 6:53 pm

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say KC takes three out of four.

  3. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 6:55 pm

    Bob Keppel is the name of the King County detective who tracked the Green River Killer for years. I wonder if this one can stop the Mariners from continue to ritualistically kill off its fan base.

  4. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 6:58 pm

    On the pregame Hargrove was asked whether this was a “must win” series.

    His answer was “Must win for what? For me to keep my job?”

  5. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 6:59 pm

    Boot IndieSnob! He’s a naysayer! We don’t need anymore of those ‘cuz we’re gonna win.

  6. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 7:01 pm

    #5:

    Heh. I hate to root against the M’s, but anything to get Hargrove canned works for me.

  7. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:02 pm

    Tacoma up 2-0 on Jeff Heaverlo and Salt Lake in the fourth. Dobbs, Cabrera with RBIs.

    Clint Nageotte so far: 3 3 0 0 3 3, 2 groundouts, 2 flyouts.

  8. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:03 pm

    You’re either with us or you’re against us Indie!!

  9. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 7:05 pm

    Great coverage, FOX. Jesus, figure it out.

  10. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 7:06 pm

    Christ, how many times have we missed the first at bat this season.

  11. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:06 pm

    When Mark Grudzielanek is the biggest offensive threat in your lineup, you know you’ve got problems.

  12. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:08 pm

    #10 That’s not as bad as espn radio was for the mavs-spurs games. I missed like the last 2 minutes of one of the games while they were running ads, then they were like “we’re going to take you back to the game.. oh, it’s over? folks, it’s over, the mavs have won…”

  13. Goose on June 2nd, 2006 7:08 pm

    Combined runs scored in this series?

    I’m gonna say less than 20.

  14. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:09 pm

    I think you people need to stop disasterbaiting. It’s about time this team broke out.

  15. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 7:12 pm

    I hate it when people say “number one draft choice” instead of “first round draft choice.”

    Unless they were actually the very first draft choice, just say “first round” instead of making me wonder which you mean.

  16. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:13 pm

    Keppel: The Green Field Killer.

  17. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 7:14 pm

    14 – it was about time for this team to break out about two months ago… now it’s not “disasterbaiting” so much as it is realistic assesment.

  18. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 7:15 pm

    Wheeeeeeee, talking about furniture being moved. Nice tech glitch again boys!

  19. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:16 pm

    Well, I actually get to watch a live Mariners game on television – the bad news is that it’s the Royals… Then again, that may be the good news, too.

  20. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:17 pm

    Cross your fingers, moyer is going through the heart of their lineup

  21. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:18 pm

    More like the pancreas of the lineup.

  22. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:18 pm

    I’m with Dan! We’re gonna win tonight! Yeah Baby!!!

  23. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 7:19 pm

    “Jamie already tonight looking much sharper than he did in Minnesota–” Jamie bounces a pitch in front of the plate, followed by silence.

    Valle is hilarious.

  24. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:19 pm

    9 batters later and the outfielders are bored

  25. Free Dan Rohn! on June 2nd, 2006 7:20 pm

    I hear Hargrove is going to start using Scrum to come up with the line-up card.

  26. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:22 pm

    I dont mind beltre in the 2. If he is going to make the #2 hitter bunt all the time, he might as well use the guy who can’t hit.

  27. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:26 pm

    Oh, boy. We may have a right-handed Rheinecker on our hands.

  28. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:30 pm

    I’m swoony over Yuni.

  29. dw on June 2nd, 2006 7:32 pm

    I thought Doug Mientkiewicz was out of baseball. Turns out he’s with the Royals.

  30. KR on June 2nd, 2006 7:32 pm

    This will be the first M’s game I’ve seen all year… as soon as the Jays game is over…

  31. msb on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    #29– yup. Mark Grudzielanek, Ambiorix Burgos & Mientkiewicz are trying to get that exciting new sport, Scrabble Baseball, up and running….

  32. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    Man – this is exactly as boring as I thought it would be.

  33. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    Yawn, sorry, was I snorring?

  34. Dave in Palo Alto on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    29 — and the difference is ???

  35. rd on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    Oh good, dw is here. It’s only a matter of time before an inevitable breakdown. That should keep the thread interesting.

  36. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 7:36 pm

    Well, I was concerned with getting good sleep tonight. However, I think this game will cure that.

  37. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:37 pm

    What are you guys talking about !?!?! This is one hell of a pitchers’ duel.

  38. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:38 pm

    Gotta say, Keppel looks pretty good. Nice change, great location, excellent movement.

  39. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:38 pm

    M’s have hit the ball out of the infield twice even. This game is crazy!

  40. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 7:40 pm

    Sorry Jim, I’m beginning to think my dead grandmother would look good against these guys sometimes.

  41. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:40 pm

    There’s a difference between a pitchers’ duel and a battle of two incredibly inept offenses. This is the latter.

  42. dw on June 2nd, 2006 7:40 pm

    29 — and the difference is ???

    Exactly.

  43. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 7:40 pm

    Man, this is old school, fast-paced, low-scoring ball right here.

  44. msb on June 2nd, 2006 7:41 pm

    not that I am not enjoying watching Jamie get guys out, but Ichiro! reminds me, former local guy Seth Everett (now at mlb.radio) was opining this aft. that the current Yankees/Sox All Star Roster wasn’t coming just from mass-voting at Fenway & Yankee Stadium, but was prob. also all the team-less adolescents whose only glimpses of baseball come from the Yankee/Sox-centric ESPN & Fox….

  45. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:42 pm

    I’m not buying what you’re selling Dave. I love watchin Moyer pitch, and the M’s offense is about to bust out. Just you wait and see.

  46. Mr. Egaas on June 2nd, 2006 7:45 pm

    Mariners can make any pitcher look good.

  47. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:45 pm

    #45 – Weren’t we saying this in 2002 (about the Mariners’ offense). I know I’ve been guilty of my share of hopeless optimism (I’m sure if you look through the archives here, Derek and Dave have chewed me out for it before), but this team is flat-out awful right now.

  48. dw on June 2nd, 2006 7:45 pm

    Oh good, dw is here. It’s only a matter of time before an inevitable breakdown. That should keep the thread interesting.

    Nah. I was cranky earlier this week because work was crap. I’m not tonight because I have a cold beverage of my choice and the new Gnarls Barkley album. That album rocks.

  49. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 7:45 pm

    I am willing to wait and see. Also, I have nowhere else to be tonight.

    But I do love Jamie.

  50. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 7:45 pm

    That’s an interesting point — it’s a lot like when the Braves built up a huge decentralized fan base by being the only team on a superstation, except that ESPN/Fox have nearly 100% market penetration

  51. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 7:46 pm

    We chewed you out? Really?

    Also — now that we’re 50 comments in, any particular article requests for the weekend, when I might have some time to write something substantial?

  52. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:48 pm

    I’m going to toe dangerously close to an inappropriate comment and ask this question. Did Lauren just say that she’s willing and waiting?

  53. dw on June 2nd, 2006 7:48 pm

    I keep waiting for an article on whether moving the walls in would help or hurt the M’s.

  54. dan on June 2nd, 2006 7:48 pm

    #51 Substantial? Why can’t we get a puff piece on WFB?

  55. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:49 pm

    Most of the big stars in the American League are on the Yankees and Red Sox. Now, as for the inexplicable votes for scrubs just because they are Yankees or Red Sox – I dunno, I think it’s probably just that there are more Yankees/Red Sox “fans” because their teams are better. Bandwagon effect, you know?

  56. KR on June 2nd, 2006 7:49 pm

    Well… with the the way Keppel and Moyer are pitching (it has nothing to do with the respective offenses… nothing), and the Jays’ 14-PA ninth, I may not get to see any Mariners ball tonight after all.

  57. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 7:50 pm

    What game will have a score first – the Sounders/Timbers soccer game or this one?

  58. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:50 pm

    I kid, of course, but I’ve said some stupidly optimistic things before at my old blog that were, of course, called out by you guys as stupidly optimistic (defending Bavasi’s Mo Vaughn signing comes to mind).

  59. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 7:51 pm

    Really, Keppel looks objectively pretty good. See how consistently he works down in the zone?

  60. msb on June 2nd, 2006 7:51 pm

    #50– Seth was envisioning an army of 14-year-olds in Montana, tapping away at their keyboards….

    Curto mentioned Dan Wright being called up to the Tacoma bullpen, and for the life of me I can’t remember the guy. I know he pitched against the Ms when he was with Chicago, but darned if I can bring him to mind.

  61. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:52 pm

    DMZ, I wondered if you thought it was fair for the Seattletimes to publish that article on Beltre today.

  62. Free Dan Rohn! on June 2nd, 2006 7:54 pm

    Buddy Bell and Mike Hargrove, both trying to make something happen. Like maybe gettig fired.

  63. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 7:54 pm

    51 – oh, so many. Let’s start with an obvious one – I would love a revisit to an article on who YOU would like to see manage the team. Has it changed at all since the last time the M’s were hiring?

    Also would love to read at what point you think the team should decide on a in-season trade strategy and who you think the Mariners should try to trade away and/or try to acquire.

    Those are obvious and large, but certainly things I’d like to read.

  64. msb on June 2nd, 2006 7:55 pm

    #57– hey, now that Preston is with Chivas, of course the Timbers will score.

    #61– about the only thing I thought ‘unfair’ was the headline– there aren’t ‘rumors’, only knee-jerk fan speculation that I have heard; speculation that Finnigan addressed in his first paragraph

  65. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:56 pm

    Hmm, close play at first, Lopez bounced it.

  66. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 7:57 pm

    Oh, boy… The defense is imploding now.

  67. KR on June 2nd, 2006 7:58 pm

    This is my welcome to 2006 Mariners ball on TV?

  68. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 7:58 pm

    Well the Sounders are at the half so the Royals have a chance here.

  69. dw on June 2nd, 2006 7:58 pm

    it’s a lot like when the Braves built up a huge decentralized fan base by being the only team on a superstation, except that ESPN/Fox have nearly 100% market penetration

    20 years ago, the Braves were often the only game on cable TV in the evening. The regional sports channels were just getting going, and many of them didn’t have the 140-150 game deals with teams that FSN has with teams now. So, most summer nights, if you wanted baseball, it was the Braves or a Cubs-Dodgers/Giants/Padres game.

    Our regional sports channel was HSE, and they didn’t get a decent Rangers package until Nolan Ryan came to Arlington.

  70. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 7:59 pm

    msb I agree, but I also thought the mere notion of a traditional media outlet acknowledging the rumors gave those kneejerk fans too much credibility.

  71. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 7:59 pm

    Young players, they’ll learn.

  72. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:00 pm

    Being in Omaha, I have to often suffer through Royals games – thank God for MLB.TV.

  73. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:00 pm

    Redemption :)

  74. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:00 pm

    gosh, the last time Jamie had a no hitter was about 75 years ago in high school, when IIRC, he had back-to-backers in his senior year…

  75. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:01 pm

    And. . . Doyle GIDPs.

    I hope they don’t send him down to the Mariners.

  76. sankthetank on June 2nd, 2006 8:02 pm

    DMZ, I don’t know if you could write anything “substantial” on this subject, but I would love to hear your advice on how to get a career in baseball. Even as a bright, young man working in aerospace with a nice career already forming, I would dump EVERYTHING to get the chance to use my technical skills and apply them to my number one passion — baseball. I was wondering how a) you made it, and b) what sort of things will help you make it to the top, and c) things you would do differently. Either that or write about Willie!

  77. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 8:02 pm

    DMZ – I would also love a good look at aggressive baserunning, both conceptually and with this team.

    I wish I’d kept track all season, but even without all that tracking, it would cool to look at the percentages and run expectancies for stolen bases and stretching singles, etc. in the context of these very special baserunners.

    It’s the single biggest irritant to me so far this season… and it’s got a lot of competition, it’s just so uneccesary.

  78. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:02 pm

    #70 – That’s nothing new, though. Freddy Garcia was trade bait for a good two and a half years before he was finally traded. Randy Winn was almost as long. And Ken Griffey Jr. is constantly rumored to come to the Mariners. Often the “source” is nothing more than fan speculation. Finnegan is one of the worst at that.

  79. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:03 pm

    #69– I know an older gent who was raised in Boston, but is an Atlanta fan these days because of those Turner broadcasts….

  80. dw on June 2nd, 2006 8:03 pm

    The Regence Blue Shield commercial with the stop-action figurines reminds me too much of Robot Chicken.

  81. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:03 pm

    This game is going so quickly, it left Rizzs in the second inning.

  82. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 8:03 pm

    I’ve made it? Really?

  83. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:03 pm

    75, I understand that Doyle may be called up to prevent any injuries. The feeling is that under Grovers control, there is now way he could get hurt.

  84. Dave in Palo Alto on June 2nd, 2006 8:04 pm

    Once I’d like to see the booth shot after the 5th inning broadcaster swap with Rizzs’ piece on Valle’s head.

  85. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:04 pm

    Are you comcasters having massive trouble with the signal too?

  86. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:04 pm

    unless he got splinters in his butt?

  87. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:04 pm

    “…no way…” sheesh

  88. sankthetank on June 2nd, 2006 8:04 pm

    DMZ — Well, at the very least, you write books that people read. That’s pretty admirable in my mind. Of course I’d prefer to be a GM as opposed to a writer, but you must have found some doors and knocked them down for sure.

  89. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:05 pm

    #83 – I know you’re kidding, but don’t say that! Knock on wood, do something. Now!

  90. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 8:05 pm

    83 – you hear that? From where? When? Soon? I need to know so that i can schedule some excitement.

  91. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:05 pm

    Who was the Mariner that pulled his hamstring crossing his legs watching TV in the ’80′s?

  92. metz123 on June 2nd, 2006 8:05 pm

    The previous tread on the M’s possibly not drafting Linecum because of his body type has me wishing you guys would do an article on the best pitchers with the worst mechanics or best pitchers in the modern era under 6 feet. Something to play with the idea that I thought the NFL had cornered, the NBA is approaching and thought MLB would be able to throw away, base your draft on information that has litle to nothing to do with the game you’re trying to field a team for.

    Teams have actual performance numbers in front of them, ways to normalize them and they still decide that they’d rather focus on body type instead of performance.

  93. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:07 pm

    Dave S knock knock knock

  94. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:07 pm

    Yeah, do a Career Win Shares vs Marginal Inch of Height scatterplot for starters!

    I’m kind of scatterplot-deprived these days.

  95. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:08 pm

    Once I’d like to see the booth shot after the 5th inning broadcaster swap with Rizzs’ piece on Valle’s head.

    or on Dave’s, because it stuck to the radio earphones….

    Are you comcasters having massive trouble with the signal too?

    it is coming from the Fox feed, per the broadcasters

  96. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:08 pm

    #92 – I found that as the best part of “Moneyball,” really. The description of how the A’s did their draft was very interesting.

  97. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:09 pm

    Ah well I can’t handle following just one thing. The game is muted so I can listen to soccer. Soccer on a webcast, now that’s entertainment.

    Thanks :)

  98. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:10 pm

    #92– would that be real height, or baseball height? Because you know there are very few pitchers who are officially under “6 foot” … look at Pineiro (he’s 6′ 1″, you know)

  99. dw on June 2nd, 2006 8:10 pm

    I’ve made it? Really?

    You’re the one with the book deal.

    It’s hard to believe people I interacted with back on rec.sport.baseball — Huckabay, Kahrl, Dayn Perry — are making money pretty much doing what they were doing in 1993-94 on the Usenet.

  100. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:10 pm

    DMZ, didn’t you write the book: “Doyle: From Walkabout to Walking Doubt”?

  101. metz123 on June 2nd, 2006 8:11 pm

    I’m not saying Linecum is the 2nd coming of Clemens or even that the M’s should draft him. I’m just hearing the same thinking about him that I heard about Vince Young and Reggie Bush. These teams take a top pick, over analyze the crap out of it and end up drafting somebody who looks better on paper instead of a guy who performs on the field.

    That why Mike Mamula ended up being a high draft choice, why Moyer was lucky to get a career going at all and why Texas ended up with a defensive end at the #1 pick in the NFL.

  102. metz123 on June 2nd, 2006 8:12 pm

    Real height…not Jack Bauer height :-)

  103. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:12 pm

    Scouts and baseball types wax poetic about changing speeds and control then draft anyone who can throw 90+ or is left handed.

  104. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:13 pm

    #97– have the Portland fans set fire to anything yet?

  105. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:13 pm

    This spelling bee thing is riveting stuff.

  106. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:13 pm

    Of course – I don’t think many would argue that Mario Williams looks better than Reggie Bush on paper, but I do see your point. Front offices tend to overanalyze their decisions and think themselves out of making logical choices.

  107. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:14 pm

    104 – dunno, but seeing how the last time I attended a Timbers/Sounders game I ended up having to file a police report, I’ve lost interest in attending these games even though I like them.

  108. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:17 pm

    Hey! A hit!

  109. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:18 pm

    I know it doesn’t get said enough, but, man … Ichiro is, like, pretty good.

  110. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:19 pm

    FWIW, while looking for a reminder of the high school no-hitters, I came across this entertaining piece about the unlikeliness of Moyer’s career, on the eve of his first (and only) All Star Game

  111. Non Hippo on June 2nd, 2006 8:20 pm

    what a nailbiter

  112. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:20 pm

    Way to earn your contract money, Beltre.

  113. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:21 pm

    Hoo boy.

  114. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:21 pm

    So what’s the shortest game in the history of the Safe? Anyone have a media guide handy?

  115. dw on June 2nd, 2006 8:21 pm

    6 innings in 1 hour, 15 minutes. We are zipping along.

  116. Free Dan Rohn! on June 2nd, 2006 8:23 pm

    #69– I know an older gent who was raised in Boston, but is an Atlanta fan these days because of those Turner broadcasts….

    Well, my grandfather grew up near Boston, and he was a Braves fan – the Boston Braves, that is. Used to listen to their games and watch the Sox on TV at the same time.

  117. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:25 pm

    Probably a stupid question, but is there a chance we’ll see a complete game from the Old Man?

  118. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:26 pm

    how many pitches are we at?

  119. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:26 pm

    I have been a fan since I watched Diego Seigei (sp?) throw the first pitch and Davy Collins step to the plate. Bobby Gritch was a favorite of mine and he killed me by killing the new M’s. I caught a homerun in RF that Rick Honeycutt threw to Kenny Landrieau, me, my brother and 5 of our closest friends were there. Every year since. Honest to Pete, this is the worst yet, yeah, after all those bad years, this is worse.

  120. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 8:27 pm

    here it comes
    The BIG INNING!

    Can you feel it?

  121. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:27 pm

    Gameday has it at 75 pitches.

  122. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:28 pm

    According to the Mariners media guide, the shortest game in Mariners home history is a 1980 game against Toronto that went 1:40. The shortest game in Mariners history is a 2005 game against the White Sox that ran 1:39.

  123. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:28 pm

    last year was worse, because it felt like they would never crawl out of things. This year the kids look good, the defense looks good, the pitching is acceptable…. the offense is still offensive, however.

  124. Dave in Palo Alto on June 2nd, 2006 8:28 pm

    119 — I was there too, but this isn’t the worst. You forget the Pat Putman era.

  125. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:28 pm

    Hey!!! Lopez!!!

  126. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Lopez!

  127. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Oh, SCREW YOU, FOX.

  128. Harold on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    #114. You are assuming the game will actually end in the ninth. The way both teams are playing the record for the longest game in innings and time might be in jeopardy ;) .

  129. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    You got to be kidding me. We miss the first run?

  130. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    This game may well outpace the Rainiers game that started a full hour earlier.

  131. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Thanks again FSN!

  132. Free Dan Rohn! on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Good job timing the commercials, guys.

  133. Mr. Egaas on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Lopez for All-Star game, please.

    Ha.

    I spell Raul with 7 u’s!

  134. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Raul!

  135. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Hahahaha. This is unreal.

  136. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUL!!!!

  137. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    I want to give a big “fuck you” to FSN for again clipping an important pitch in favor of bullshit commercials we’ve all seen 1,000,000 times.

  138. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Hey!!! Raul!!!
    2-0. Just like that.

    Bout time.

  139. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    yesssss!

  140. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:29 pm

    Wow. We may actually set the shortest game record now.

  141. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:30 pm

    Oh yeah, Pat. I got a new bottle of Makers Mark, maybe should have left it alone. Back to back!!!! How easily I am satisfied!!!!

  142. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:30 pm

    Good to know it was Fox’s fault and not Sportsnet’s. Still friggin’ annoying.

  143. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:30 pm

    Click it or ticket!

    Still 0-0 for the Sounders btw, so the M’s win.

  144. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:31 pm

    Jim, doubtful. We’re about 10-15 minutes away, right?

  145. John in L.A. on June 2nd, 2006 8:31 pm

    Oh for the love of god, richie. Jesus.

  146. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:31 pm

    Geez. Almost got the third.

  147. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:31 pm

    Hey, what was a good inning be without some bad base running?

  148. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:32 pm

    Our old pal, aggressive baserunning.

  149. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:32 pm

    Er, what would. Wow, such grammar.

  150. DMZ on June 2nd, 2006 8:32 pm

    More time to play the new Half-life 2 episode. Mmm.. zombies.

  151. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:32 pm

    I predict “aggressive baserunning” jokes, but nobody doesn’t go for two on that ball.

    He could have run a little faster, though.

  152. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:33 pm

    I just got HL2 for the xbox. Haven’t played it yet.

  153. msb on June 2nd, 2006 8:34 pm

    should we be encouraged that he hit it so hard that it carommed right back to the fielder and enabled the out at 2nd?

  154. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 8:34 pm

    Is Richie’s out the fault of Goff, the first base coach, Riche, or (my guess) – both of them.

  155. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:34 pm

    Kenji! Nice hitting this inning…

  156. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:35 pm

    Does the game time count commercial/inning breaks?

  157. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:35 pm

    Ok this change makes the record impossible.

  158. Non Hippo on June 2nd, 2006 8:35 pm

    Another out due to aggressive baserunning. Do the Mariners lead the outs on base paths stat?

  159. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:37 pm

    We could ask them to make the change really quick, to help the record along.

    “Screw warmup pitches! You could be part of history.”

  160. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:38 pm

    Jeremy Affeldt, a mystery to end all mysteries. How could somebody his stuff struggle so much?

  161. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 8:39 pm

    I’m thinking that third strike was a tad low.

  162. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:39 pm

    Ooh! You know what I want? A dependable, long-lasting… oh nevermind. Yeah, I know the joke is getting old. BUT THE COMMERCIAL IS GETTING OLDER.

  163. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:39 pm

    161 – going for the record here, don’t complain ;)

  164. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:40 pm

    (OT) I hope it’s ok if I post this..

    I have two tix to a SIIF film I can’t attend tomorrow at The Egyptian. The movie is Half Nelson. Anyone in the area want them for free?

  165. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 8:41 pm

    My wife would never invite me into the bedroom in that scenario for at least two reasons.

    -unshaven
    -game on

  166. Mr. Egaas on June 2nd, 2006 8:41 pm

    The Egyptian is a cool little theatre.

    Alas, I’ll be going to a show at Neumo’s just a few blocks from there.

  167. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:42 pm

    #166.

    Would that be the Mono/Eluvium show?

  168. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:42 pm

    BELTRE!

  169. JMB on June 2nd, 2006 8:42 pm

    Has “Rico” ever *not* said “holy smokes” after a great play?

  170. KR on June 2nd, 2006 8:44 pm

    Aw. No new personal best for Moyer.

  171. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 8:44 pm

    Anyone here use any particular site they like for ingame stats?

  172. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:45 pm

    It’s almost Eddie time!!!

  173. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:48 pm

    #171: In game stats at Newsvine (end gratuitous self-plug).

    Technically not linked in yet from the game page, but you can hack the URL.

  174. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:49 pm

    Ichiro didn’t get the time memo.

  175. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 8:50 pm

    LOPEZ, BUNT!???

  176. IndieSnob on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    Lopez is just insane this year.

  177. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    Should have bunted…

  178. Free Dan Rohn! on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    Lopez should have layed down the bunt.

  179. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    Lopez really progressing… on schedule, eh?

  180. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    See Grover, you should have had him bunt :)

  181. Dave in Palo Alto on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    I heart Jose.

  182. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 8:53 pm

    Let this be the end of Lopez’ bunting career. For. Ever.

  183. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:54 pm

    Wow, Beltre hitting… more RBI for Lopez… we should play the Royals more.

    (of course, every team in baseball is saying that… except for the ones wishing to play us.)

  184. rd on June 2nd, 2006 8:54 pm

    175: Lopez doesn’t bunt now that he is in the three spot. Hargrove’s logic: #2 hitter bunts, #3 doesn’t. It doesn’t matter that he is the same player in the same situation.

    This is one case where Hargrove’s stupidity is a good thing.

  185. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:55 pm

    Wow. Rizzs and Valle are making Ibanez sound like a sugar daddy.

  186. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:57 pm

    (For those who missed it, Raul likes to hang out with the young players, take them to lunch, take them shopping. Mmm hmmm.)

  187. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 8:57 pm

    Poor Lopez, only makes $350large, needs Ibanez to take him shopping… Grover should take him, only reason he still has a job.

  188. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 8:57 pm

    A couple years ago, there were a few of us who thought Lopez’s ceiling was Miguel Tejada. That may still be too optimistic for him, but at 22 he’s starting to become a good young hitter.

  189. Lauren, token chick on June 2nd, 2006 8:58 pm

    HA! Awesome. Sorry for the multiposts here (just call me corco) but they CUT OFF the truck commercial to come back for the first pitch of the half-inning! VICTORY!!

  190. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 9:00 pm

    And the game is over. Some more soccer excitement as the game ends with a 0-0 tie. I’m sure bummed I didn’t pay $10 to see that.

  191. rd on June 2nd, 2006 9:03 pm

    If they give Derek Jeter another Gold Glove, I’m going to be sick.

  192. joser on June 2nd, 2006 9:03 pm

    So if Deanna’s around, I was thinking Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Blunders would be a good choice for her bookclub some month. Apparently he makes a case for M’s manager Maury Wills as among the worst of all time:

    It wasn’t just that Wills couldn’t do the in-game stuff. Wills’s inability to communicate with his players really sets him apart. He said he was going to make his second baseman, Julio Cruz, his permanent shortstop. Twenty-four hours later he was back at second base. As far as a guy who put in some real time, I don’t think there’s been anyone close to Wills.

    Perhaps Grover has him in his sights…

  193. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 9:04 pm

    rd (184), I was thinking that very thing. I wish there had been only one out when Jose came up, just to see what he called for.

  194. Eleven11 on June 2nd, 2006 9:04 pm

    So, are we that good or are they….that…bad…?

  195. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 9:04 pm

    rd, ready yourself for the inevitable. I gave up caring about what the media thinks – in baseball or otherwise – it hurts my head.

  196. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 9:05 pm

    GAME!

  197. zzyzx on June 2nd, 2006 9:05 pm

    mariners win. mariners win. mariners win.

  198. Dave S. on June 2nd, 2006 9:05 pm

    Moyer gets a CG SHO. Nice!

  199. JMB on June 2nd, 2006 9:05 pm

    Wow. I know the Royals can’t hit, but still. Wow.

  200. joser on June 2nd, 2006 9:06 pm

    Jeter hit another “clutch” game-winning single tonight (after Damon got caught stealing but Roberts dropped the ball). He’s doing nothing to kill off his cult, and his halo extends to areas like fielding where his unclutchness is invisible to his acolytes.

  201. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 9:06 pm

    #199. yeah. So is this really a two-hit shutout? Does it have credibility?

  202. bigred on June 2nd, 2006 9:06 pm

    Yeah I told ya’ll this is what would happen. See post #1

  203. rd on June 2nd, 2006 9:06 pm

    This AAAA baseball ain’t bad.

  204. rd on June 2nd, 2006 9:07 pm

    193: There were two outs? I thought there were none. That shows how well I was paying attention. Don’t make me manager.

  205. dan on June 2nd, 2006 9:09 pm

    193 – there was only 1 out. betancourt flied out, ichiro and beltre singled, then lopez came up.

  206. dw on June 2nd, 2006 9:10 pm

    Moyer: 93 pitches, 1 BB, 2 hits.

    Nothing against the old man, who has won the people’s acclimation and fame forever, but the Royals are Cleveland Spiders bad.

  207. G-Man on June 2nd, 2006 9:10 pm

    204 – I meant to say if there had been NO outs. There was actually one out, IIRC.

  208. sidereal on June 2nd, 2006 9:10 pm

    Love the post-game:

    Q: I counted 19 ground-ball outs. What is he doing that’s so effective?

    What Krueger said:
    “blah blah pitching down blah blah working quick”

    What Krueger should have said:
    “He’s pitching to the Royals”

  209. msb on June 2nd, 2006 9:10 pm

    #169– no. personally, I think he practiced it until it became 2nd nature, to keep himself from saying bad words on the radio.

  210. Guuiduck on June 2nd, 2006 9:11 pm

    Do you think that Felix is pissed that he doesn’t get to pad his stats against the Royals?

  211. msb on June 2nd, 2006 9:13 pm

    #206– of course, these Spiders-Bad Royals did beat Oakland twice before heading up here– does that make Oakland even worse than the Ms?

    Ladies and Gentlemen, your Starting Second Baseman, Robinson Cano.

  212. dbroncos31 on June 2nd, 2006 9:17 pm

    Great game from Moyer, Lopez shows why he, and not cano or loretta (most fans who did the all star game voting should not be allowed to leave the house) should be the 2B in the ASG. I think that we deserve about another 100 games against the royals this year.

  213. argh on June 2nd, 2006 9:37 pm

    Even against the hapless Royals the Ms can’t seem to score until late in the game. But sufficient unto the day.

  214. msb on June 2nd, 2006 9:46 pm

    well, stats haven’t been updated yet, but as of earlier today, Lopez & Ty Wigginton were your leading 2nd basemen in the AL, Lopez likely to be the leader after tonight, unless Ty had a good day as well.

    Lopez 42 RBI, .794 OPS, .482 SLG, 10 2B, 5 3B, 9 HR
    Wiggs 41 RBI, .795 OPS, .495 SLG, 9 2B, 0 3B, 12 HR

    Cano 8th in OPS, 8th in RBI, 6th in SLG, 12th in HR
    Loretta 6th in OPS, 3rd in RBI (but about 20 behind the leaders), 5th in SLG, 11th in HR
    Iguchi (Guillen’s sure pick) 4th in OPS, 8th in RBI, 4th in SLG, 3rd in HRs

  215. msb on June 2nd, 2006 10:05 pm

    completely unrelated, but Chad Kreuter just was named the new baseball coach at USC…..

  216. Deanna on June 2nd, 2006 10:30 pm

    192 — Deanna was at the game tonight, so she wasn’t around until now. And what a game it was. Yeah, I know it was the Royals, but seeing Jamie get a complete game shutout is pretty damn awesome. Lopez and Raul’s back-to-back home runs ruled, and Yuniesky Betancourt pretty much had a hand in 15 out of 27 outs. The man’s a machine. Anyway.

    If you want to have input into book club, you can come to Elliott Bay Book Company TOMORROW (saturday) at 5pm, because that’s when the next meeting of book club is, and that’s where people decide what’s going to get done next. We’ll be going to the game afterwards as usual as well, if anyone particularly just wants to tag along for that.

    Yeah, I didn’t bug DMZ or anyone to plug it here again, but it mostly slipped my mind because I spent most of May moving and was in Philly last week. I have no idea how far in advance to remind people about meetings. First Saturday of each month where there’s a Mariners home game, or there’s always the book group page thingy with the dates/books.

  217. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 10:42 pm

    Deanna, I would absolutely be in if I didn’t have to work. Sigh. This night-shfiting is killing me.

  218. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 10:44 pm

    Another ex-Mariner note: Allan “Suitcase” Simpson is back up, this time with Milwaukee.

  219. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 10:46 pm

    From the AP story on the game:

    “A fan seated behind the Mariners dugout yelled “Sit down, Hargrove!” when manager Mike Hargrove came out to talk to Moyer after 83 pitches with one out in the eighth, after Moyer had allowed a single to Mientkiewicz. ”

    Was that you, Deanna?

  220. Rusty on June 2nd, 2006 11:15 pm

    Re: Yelling at Hargrove… It could have been anyone. I think the entire crowd was on cruise control the whole game and then when Hargrove came out everyone woke up and started yelling at him. I wasn’t the only one on the second deck booing.

    I do want to make a point. I still find it cool going to games, although I have attended far less games this year than any year in recent memory. And following Lopez, Johjima (nice smoking line drive), and Betancourt is great. Larry Stone says he hasn’t seen this much anger in the fanbase in 10 years. That may be. But as a diehard statistics minded fan, I see more reason to go to a game than I did 2 years ago.

    Maybe in terms of the old DABDA grieving scheme I’m way past the Denial, Anger, Bargaining and Depression phases and am heading toward Acceptance. Meanwhile, the bulk of the fanbase is still stuck on Anger. I don’t know. But I’m oddly optimistic. New management will come sooner or later, and perhaps even new ownership. Who knows. It’s kind of fun hanging out with smaller crowds. It has that 1993/1994 feel where you went to the game just for the heck of it to watch the players. I remember sitting in the third row of right field in 1993 waiting for Junior to hit his 9th home run in 9 games (the streak came to an end that night). Not sure of the connection between now and then except sitting in a smallish crowd (on a free t-shirt night no less) and having fun with friends sort of felt the same.

  221. Deanna on June 2nd, 2006 11:18 pm

    Nope, I was sitting in the upper deck, bouncing up and down and singing “M-I-E-N-T-K-I-E-W-I-C-Z” for most of the game, actually.

  222. Jim Thomsen on June 2nd, 2006 11:57 pm

    To the “Mickey Mouse Club” song?

  223. Joe on June 3rd, 2006 12:42 am

    Presumably, except it has one too many letters and that “w” gives it way too many syllables.

  224. Joe on June 3rd, 2006 12:46 am

    The 43-year-old Moyer, 20 years older than Keppel, had his first complete game since a 3-1 loss at Baltimore on May 25, 2005, and his first two-hitter since Aug. 16, 1986, at Montreal, when he was a rookie with the Chicago Cubs.

    The Royals have been shut out six times this season. Seattle and Minnesota lead the major leagues in being shut out at seven times each.

  225. Deanna on June 3rd, 2006 12:49 am

    No, more like that “You can sing a rainbow” song, except it becomes “you can spell Mientkiewicz”.

  226. terry on June 3rd, 2006 3:38 am

    two game win streak!!!!!!! Now where are all of you Hargrove haters????????????????

    Sorry just couldn’t resist….i’ve been around Reds fans way too long….

  227. Oly Rainiers Fan on June 3rd, 2006 8:31 am

    Woo hoo! We finally released Kevin Appier. (there was nowhere else to post it).

  228. mariners23 on June 3rd, 2006 8:58 am

    Maybe if the rangers just loss against the Sox and we Sweep the Royals we wont be that far back(typicall Mariner Fan)

  229. terry on June 3rd, 2006 10:45 am

    Yep, and I’d be a multi-millionaire if that incompetent jerk at the circle K wouldn’t keep giving me defective lottery tickets…

  230. bigred on June 3rd, 2006 11:04 am

    We’re going to chip away at this thing, which should make the series against Oakland mid-month really interesting!! Y’all need to be less pessimistic and enjoy the games. Things are getting better all the time.

  231. Jim Thomsen on June 3rd, 2006 11:52 am

    Yeah, Hargrove was the one who pitched that shutout against, essentially, an independent-league team.

  232. terry on June 3rd, 2006 1:21 pm

    He guys, if anything, this at least proves the M’s can beat up their best friend’s little brother….that counts for something doesnt it (even if it took a sweat to do it)?

  233. joser on June 3rd, 2006 2:27 pm

    Excuse me, but I can fully enjoy the games and still be pessimistic (or rather, realistic) about the team. I’m sure there are KC fans who enjoy their games as well, despite also not having any delusions about their team’s chances in the AL Central.

    But hey, you want to be optimistic? The Angels got beat down by Cleveland already today, so if the M’s win they can climb out of the bottom of the AL West.

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