Pineiro’s not demoted

DMZ · July 3, 2006 at 10:52 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

But he should be.

From the notebook, earlier today:

Without Green and with Putz taking a day off, the Mariners opted to have starter Joel Pineiro available in the bullpen if needed, as Monday was Pineiro’s normal bullpen session day between starts.

Jeff Weaver, 2006
3-10, 6.29 ERA, 88.7 IP, 21 BB, 62 K, 18 HR. Fancy stats: FIP 5.21, xFIP 4.61. LD 22.9%, GB 39.2%

Joel Pineiro, 2006
6-7, 5.88 ERA, 98 IP, 35 BB, 45 K, 15 HR. Fancy stats: FIP 5.33, xFIP 4.90. LD 26.1%, GB 46.5%

It’s not a huge upgrade, and a Choo-Ibanez OF makes flyballers even less attractive, but if Pineiro’s done — and he’s certainly looked like it — Jeff Weaver’s certainly an option.


115 Responses to “Pineiro’s not demoted”

  1. Philkensebben on July 4th, 2006 3:38 pm

    Joey Cora for manager.

  2. joser on July 4th, 2006 3:47 pm

    Fortunately the team started falling back to earth before it did anything significantly stupid in the trade-deadline market.

  3. Harold on July 4th, 2006 3:53 pm

    [this is not a board]

  4. Typical Idiot Fan on July 4th, 2006 4:00 pm

    What I find odd is Dave’s belief this team was good based on the run differential. I would have only agreed with him if we’d maintained a positive run differential all season but had been losing. Up until that winning streak, we were negative run diff.

    More then that, what made anybody believe it was sustainable? Too much of it was predicated on Beltre / Sexson turning things around. Beltre seems to be cooling off a bit but hasn’t reverted to Bad Adrian, but Sexson has never really been here. Top it off with Bad Felix showing up all too often, Gil Meche’s June being as much a farce as we knew it would be, and Julio Mateo back to stinking up the place and…

    well.. you get my point. We shouldn’t have thought anything of it.

  5. joser on July 4th, 2006 4:18 pm

    Just wait, though: they’ll peel off two improbable wins in a row against one of the over-.500 teams Harold mentions, and the bandwagon will be all gassed up and going full-steam again.

  6. Typical Idiot Fan on July 4th, 2006 4:22 pm

    At this point I could see us beating New York. They’ve become quite suspect over the recent weeks. Toronto has it’s flaws as well, despite a huge offense. Boston and Detroit are just top notch right now tho.

  7. The Unknown Comic on July 4th, 2006 5:22 pm

    Refuse to Lose!!!!

  8. The Unknown Comic on July 4th, 2006 5:26 pm

    I am a Lefebrve believer!!!!

  9. scraps on July 4th, 2006 6:03 pm

    The idea that a team with a positive run differential would be fifteen games out at the All-Star break if they weren’t in a weak division is, well, not an idea that would hold up to analysis.

    This is obviously a flawed team. Nobody, including Dave, has argued otherwise. Dave has argue that this is a team that could win the division, at least partially because it’s a weak division. A few lousy games, compounded by bad managing, doesn’t change that.

    Look at it this way: Isn’t it obvious that, for all the team’s flaws, they would have several more wins if they weren’t being managed by a garden gnome? Does anyone disagree with that? This is in fact a decent team, with frustrating problems that are rubbed in our face every game by a manager who doesn’t know how to deal with them. It’s not a worse team than its record, it’s a better team. But we probably won’t get to see that demonstrated this year.

  10. scraps on July 4th, 2006 6:04 pm

    (Probably should have posted that to the now-running game thread. Oh well.)

  11. Harold on July 4th, 2006 6:38 pm

    [this is not a board]

  12. scraps on July 4th, 2006 6:47 pm

    What part of “By submitting this comment, I agree that I have read and understand the comment guidelines and in particular that I understand that my comments can be deleted for any or no reason, and I promise not to get upset about it” do you not understand?

    It’s not censorship, this is not the government, no one owes you anything. Get along or move along, no one cares which.

  13. scraps on July 4th, 2006 6:56 pm

    (n.b.: I am not a host of USS Mariner, just a guy sick of Internet Entitlement Whiners.)

  14. Harold on July 4th, 2006 6:59 pm

    #112 and #113. Your right. Have fun and enjoy discussing the Mariners.


  15. The Unknown Comic on July 4th, 2006 10:38 pm


    Shake it off brother. I found out the hard way that they get offended when you call this blog a message board even if it is just an innocent slip of the tongue (or should I say slip of the fingers) or a common brain fart. I have updated my english language sensitivity awareness and I am a much more intelligent and enlightened individual as a result of my unfortunate mistake. We learn, we grow together here at the Uss Mariner and it is a wonderful thing even for us less gifted wordsmiths.

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