Game 89, Tigers at Mariners
DMZ · July 9, 2006 at 12:05 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
LHP Nate Robertson v RHP Gil Meche. 1:05.
Meche makes the last start before the All-Star Break and, according to Hargrove, will start the first one after it. He’s an ace! An ace!
Today’s anti-LHP lineup for you:
RF-L Ichiro!
3B-R Beltre
2b-R Lopez
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
DH-R Perez (no, really! Everett tempter tantrum scheduled to follow the game!)
CF-R Bloomquist the Ignitor
C-R Rivera
SS-R Betancourt
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Perez! Yay!
Bloomquist! Unyay!
Rivera! Uh-oh. Try to avoid baserunners. Those passed balls will kill us.
Can I scalp tickets to the Everett blowup? I hope it’s assigned and not festival seating.
Oliveros will never be able to say he’s worn a Mariner uniform.
If they do view Meche as the ace, let’s hope they don’t pull him after 87 pitches in favor of the typically ineffective Julio Mateo (again).
Carl actually looked pretty cheerful when out to take the first pitch from Tommy Davis….
Carl is smiling becuase he knows that despite how good Perez does today, that he will be back in the lineup, striking out on low balls and ruining rallys for the team.
actually, I’d be feeling pretty cheerful if I got to meet Tommy Davis & Edo Vanni…. so, is Gil the only guy wearing stirrups?
Those are some ugly damn uniforms.
I predict our batting average goes down because of embarrasment over the uniforms… but our slugging goes up out of anger over the uniforms.
is it my imagination (having been playing catch-up on these games so far) but has the Detroit pitching staff gotten a ridiculously high preponderence of first pitch outs this weekend?
OK two things. That ball that Beltre hit to Guillen, was about 2 inches off the ground. And that Jopez strikeout, was just plain embarassing. Should we blame this on the Uni’s?
II like the uniforms
I hate the yellow portions and that hat is way over the top.
How many games in a row do the Ms need to lose for Hargrove to get canned?
The hat is the cool part. Wings on the brims are awesome.
There goes another Rivera passed ball. I wonder how many he has this year in his abbreviated innings?
The wings can fly away.
#15– and if he didn’t have abbreviated innings, would he have fewer passed balls?
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#17 I am sure I don’t want to know that answer with his obvious lack of prowess.
#18 Of course the only official passed balls are when a runner advances.
perez!
Again we have from Valle “with Everett struggling a little bit from the right side they made the move for Perez”. I love the UNDER statement.
Those are wings on the hat? I thought they were like the garlands that the eagle is clutching in some navy insignia.
Whatever it is they look like a SeaBee convention.
Perez breaks up the perfect game!
Rainiers on FSN now?!?! Sweetness!
Valle more accurately could have said “with Everett continuing to suck from the right side and obviously no longer able to be a switch hitter, they made the move for Perezâ€Â.
I just had the sudden mental picture of Moyer, standing on a chair in the middle of the clubhouse, explaining how the stirrups go on over the socks…
So. Is there any point at which we stop saying “Meche is looking like good trade bait” and start saying “Meche is good and we might want to keep him”?
At least when the Rainiers play we will be able to watch some fun baseball. I will really enjoy watching Adam Jones, since it is looking like he will be comming to the M’s soon.
Note: I’m not saying I think he’s good; I don’t really know enough to say. Thus the question.
walking brandon inge? That’s embarassing…
#28– coincidently, Rotoworld mentioned Jones today: “Triple-A Tacoma’s Adam Jones homered, doubled and drove in three runs on Saturday. Jones, who doesn’t turn 21 until next month, is batting .280/.331/.474 with 13 steals in 15 attempts. He’s unlikely to break into Seattle’s lineup at the start of next season, but he could be a regular by the middle of the year.”
I think the Tiger Uniforms are ugly.
Calabro makes bad jokes. I wish Niehaus were around for turn-back-the-clock so we’d get more than Media Guide junk. Niehaus would know this a little better.
Valle keeps calling the Tigers pitcher “Robinson,” doesn’t he.
this game sucks.
I like the uniforms… and it’s not yellow… it’s gold.
#34– well, he kinda looks like Nate Robinson…. no, wait, he’s taller.
The camera guy must think the ball girl looks pretty cute in the uniform
Booooooo
well, I think this inning is all on Gil, so far….
say, Oakland scored 5 runs off Robertson last week. I’m just saying.
Meche’s losing his “ace” status very quickly.
nothing wrong with panning to pretty girls.
If Meche doesn’t K him I’ll be pissed
nailed it! Atta boy Gil!
The Futures game is a heckuva lot more interesting than this “Pilots” Game..
Do you guys think the Mariners are going to win any more games this year?
sheesh, somebody in the neighborhood is using up all their leftover fireworks right now. speaking of fireworks…. the Angels have moved into 3rd place, 3 games back, and everyone believes that they are bound to make a move for a big-time hitter sooner rather than later, right?
say, wonder if Jimmy Leyland still cops a quick smoke in the back corner of the dugout.
I’m sure with Willie in the lineup they will be able to scratch out a couple wins in the next couple of months
Is Hendu on vacation? I miss him.
Carl Everett is a proven playoff contender. Carl Everett fills the Angels needs and would make a great fit on the team.
What kind of team would this be if Jim Leyland was our Manager?
51: A first place team.
#51– nicotine-stained
I’m saving the futures game for this evening… the AAA All-Star Game is wednesday, right
Hendu is on the radio
Where is Fairly?
Meche, Ace.
Fairly may be getting an early break in, as well….
Perez is my man.
Perez really mashed that lefty.
Perez sucks.
Good job, Willie.
Way to be Willie B. Not.
sigh.
actually, Willie sucks.
Willie the non-ignition rally killer
Doh
What the hell has happened to this team?
Who then hits a freaking GR2B
Great job on hit and run Hargrove.
Valle just said, “What a great at bat by Willie.” Yes he got a double but think about the last two swings.
HAHA… how ironic
“actually, Willie sucks.”
“Willie in scoring position.”
Boom
Rivera!!
FUCKING RIVERA!!! ATTA BOY!
Rivera!!!!!!!!!
Rene!
Hargrove just knew Bloomquist and Rivera would provide the punch today.
ah, so his cunning plan was to give Rene a shot at a RBI….
If a reasonable man was managing the Mariners, the score would be 3-2 right now.
Or… if a reasonable man was managing the Mariners the score would be 3-0
Wow Ichiro looks almost confused during this homestand.
I actually don’t think hit and run with WFB is a terrible idea.
It was just poor execution by Willie, but not necessarily a bad decision.
The manager didn’t give up that dinger to Ordonez.
Yes. The manager gave up the home run. The manager is responsible for everything, because the manager is the only thing keeping Gilgamesh from not allowing a Home Run All year, because he says “throw balls in the wheel house to tease guys”
The manager is the enemy.
Calabro just called Bud Selig a “used car salesman.”
well Selig was a used car salesman.
He was a car salesman in 1969
87: Literally?
yes!
Then it’s certainly no shock that he is a slime ball.
I know…says a lot about him, doesn’t it?
Felix!!!!
Hey, Felix is warming up in the bullpen!
He started out working for his father’s car dealership, before he scammed the Pilots out of bankruptcy.
Is he just throwing because he’ll have the big All-Star break before his next start?
96: That would be my guess.
So much for pushing him back to keep his IP down.
Today is my day for ignorant questions. No one’s answered the Gil one yet, but I should have been off researching WHIP and defense-independent ERA and junk like that myself. Oh well.
Great job by Gil but that needs to be it for him for this game. Agreed?
Agreed.
yes, 110 pitches thru 6
100: If Hargrove’s thinking, I certainly hope it’s along those lines.
What is the official USS Mariner stance on the hit and run? I know I have fallen in love with it on my Nebraska Cornhuskers MVP 06 NCAA Baseball dynasty.
now there is a mental picture– Boog Powell with an inside the parker.
Hargrove either needs a bigger set of pants or an inline girdle.
I confess to having no idea about Gil. To me he is the classic enigma wrapped in the tortilla of mystery.
Lauren, Gil is not an ace, but he is much more useful than most posters around here would have you believe
Beltre is getting back to trying to pull everything. Not good.
I have to ask what is going through Adrian’s head on that last at bat. Why go away from what has worked for you the last month? Go the other way with that ball Adrian!
I enjoy this.
[go look it up]
#108 Its the Safeco curse
I think I want to get into Mole Control when I grow up.
Ugh. Why is Gil out there right now?
Hendu says the way to decide when to pull a pitcher is when his velocity goes down on the gun.
Hendu was clutch.
114. I would have to say that is only part of it. Location is another big part obviously, or when the ball is consistantly up in the zone.
Well, Hendu just said Gil, even at this high pitch count, is still getting downward action on his slider. Which is a more intelligible comment than you usually hear from him.
OK, let’s score now. I don’t want to see Zumaya with the game still tied.
They don’t want to see Felix in with the game sitll tied.
Felix is obviously much better than Zumaya, but I trust the Tigers hitters against him more than I trust our hitters against 100mph heat.
Eduardo fucking rocks.
hit another 2 run homer.
Another quality AB for Willie.
And there’s really another quality AB for Rivera.
Allow me to be the first to say it:
Rivera is on steroids.
Guillen stinks.
YES!
Haha. Calabro: “Perez lumbers into home”
Gil Meche with 7IP 4H 2ER 2BB 8K, and a ~3.8 ERA at the All-Stear break.
So at what point to we have to stop saying he sucks, and that maybe this perpetual head case is turning a corner mentally?
Not saying that point has been encountered per se, but who knows.
how about a little Felix for setup!
Raffy is just as good, I guess, and no need to blow our long reliever on 3-2
Yeah, if they tie it back up, give it to Felix in the 10th and let him pitch away.
Looks like we might actually win this one, but a question–Does anyone have the stats on our record when Willie B starts. I know we can’t blame him for all the woes vs lefthanders, but it would be interesting to note.
Did… he really say “Anchorman” was a discerning film?
but Anchorman was a discerning film.
very deep and iunformative. I learned a lot.
That was a funny looking run back to the dugout by Soriano
Sit down! God I love Soriano, so glad he doesn’t appear to be hurt.
Good pitching so far. The Tigers last hit came in the 4th inning.
She was pretty attractive.
The top of the order has done nothing offensively in this game.
Beltre is my man when he hits oppo
All it took was for me to say that.
Good Adrian!
Dangit. He was out by a ways though.
God dammit.
Wait a sec, his foot got under the tag didn’t it?
Beltre slid under the tag, but the ball beat him there by so much that the ump had to call him out.
Southern California Angels 4, Oakland 2 going into the 9th.
51. We would be in first place. I don’t know why they didn’t pursue him. Maybe they did.
Finally a win!
I suppose it would be fitting if we only broke this losing streak thanks to an error by the other team.
Still, I’ll take it!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, that felt good.
Yes, finally a win for the M’s, and against the best team in the bigs.
Thank god. The M’s won, and i don’t have to listen to “he gloves it” for months.
It was the uniforms.
By the way, what would this blog be called if the Pilots had stayed in Seattle.
Thank god. I couldn’t handle another loss.
I feel sorry for Sonics fans. You guys have to listen to Calabro all the time.
Do you think that Dave N. would be a good basketball announcer?
On the White Sox broadcast: “Meche putting up some pretty good numbers this year.”
Uh oh, Perez is a good interview, has a nice smile, is funny — he’s going to be given a two-year, $2.2m extension before the week’s out.
Calabro’s a good basketball announcer.
exactly.
157: I have no idea. Is Calabro a good basketball announcer? I find his voice to be rather annoying.
I still can’t believe Zidane head-butted that guy. That’s crazy.
#162, he’s one of the best ones I’ve heard.
#148– pursue Leyland when, in the off-season when they had a anger under contract?
#159– and as Cara pointed out, he is a veteran presence in the clubhouse….
163, yeah, I wonder what the other guy must have said. I feel like it must have taken a lot to get Zidane to snap like that with a chance to cap off his legacy differently.
The Angels just beat Oakland. The Mariners may be in last place, but they are just 2.5 games back.
It’s like if Ibanez cold-cocked the first-baseman after taking a walk or something. I’m still shocked I saw it.
Calabro is the best in the NBA.
No Dissing Calabro. He is one of the Best NBA announcers in the last 20 years.
Tacoma note: Jones is just not striking out much lately. So far he is 0-2 with a run but he has 2 walks. If you have been looking at his box scores lately he will see he is walking more and striking out less. Snelling is 2-3 right now as well. His average is now at 291. coming in to todays game he was 283/396/435/831 OPS.
The word “Snelling” is foreign to the users of this site.
A little off topic, [deleted, off-topic]
Bring Jones and Doyle up.
Jones > Choo or Bloomquist
Doyle > Everett
Uh, that should read “named”.
ok, what is Jeff Brantley’s thing about the Mariners?
the (unfamiliar to me) BBTN host wrapped the Ms/Tigers highlights with the line, “Rivera found a hole”
“Found a hole in Beltre’s glove”, sez Jeff Brantley (in a baffling & highly inaccurate swipe at Adrian) … Brantley then chuckled something about being surprised Beltre was still on the roster. oh, FWIW, he also thinks that at this point, Papelbon is your American League Cy Young winner.
on the other hand, Raul’s catch was Web Gem #3 of the first half…
#173– Guillen said (well before he had to make any substitutions) that should he have to replace an outfielder, Maggs would be the guy who got the spot.
Still dumb. Ibanez I has just flat been better. But that’s the Mariners fan in me coming out as well.
This comment’s coming a little late, but I found it interesting to note that all the Tigers’ hits today came in the 4th inning. M’s pitchers tossed 8 innings of no-hit ball. Good stuff.
Some thoughts:
* I like the uniforms, overall. The stripes on the arms are too much (though they don’t look bad on the socks); the scrambled eggs on the cap is hilarious, and unique (who besides the Pirates have a unique cap?) All in all they’re certainly better than the teal-era M’s unis. The trident is a better logo than the prop, though. I think the M’s could do worse than go more blue-and-gold in the future (they are nautical colors, afterall). Note: not chrome yellow, but gold (in the same way the NFL is doing metallic colors now). Blue with ultrathin gold pinstripes? Hmmm.
That said, the uniforms made everybody look strange. Everytime they showed Ichiro I had weird flashbacks to Japanese league shots. And some of the guys like Soriano and Betancourt looked like they were right out of sepiatone Negro league photos. Which was nice, actually. And boy, did Detroit have dull, depressing uniforms in ’69. They looked like a prison team. It’s like they already knew Japan was going to completely destroy their entire civic economy in the coming decade.
* Has anybody noticed the M’s aren’t bunting anymore? When did that stop? With the return to AL play? They’re still making “agressive” baserunning mistakes, but those look more like bad decisions on the fly than idiotic commandments from the dugout.
* I don’t understand how Detroit is the hottest team in baseball. Are they for real? They’re good, but they’re not up-and-down dominating good the way the M’s were in 2001 or the way the Yankees or the Cardinals have been in years past.
* Great outing by Perez. Way to introduce yourself. Would love to see you maintain that 1.00 OBP for the rest of the season, but I’ll settle for two hits per game.
* I have to tip my hat to Pudge. He willingly went from a WS ring in Florida to the team with the worst record in baseball. Sure, he got a good deal but he could have had something pretty close elsewhere. But he believed in their plan and literally put his money where his mouth is, and look at them today. Clearly they had a few things go right and they made some astute moves to pick up pieces, but how much easier was that with Pudge on board?
* I can’t believe Zidane head-butted that guy either. What could he possibly be thinking? I went from being basically “meh” about an all-euro final, with general dislike of the French on principle and a sentimental lean towards the Azzuri (I have friends in Milan and was there when they won a game in ’98) despite their flopping ways, to absolutely disgusted — and rabidly cheering for Italy. They should have retroactively cancelled Zidane’s goal and awarded the game to Italy right there. I hate shootouts to decide games, but I was certainly following this one. Glad to see it was won by the only deserving team.
In other news, the Red Sox/White Sox game which has been stuck at 5-5 from the 11th to the 16th inning (currently), ex-Mariner Matt Thornton came in to pitch in the middle of the 13th, got 2 outs, and got 2 more outs in the 14th before being relieved. His line was
Thornton 1.1 IP, 18PC, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 3K.
man, whoever the stylist is for BBTN has managed to make Tino look like he’s wearing a very shiny toupee….
Cancelled Zidane’s goal? Seriously, that guy probably said stuff that would make anybody’s blood boil, and it was a far cry from the worst behavior of the tournament. How about Italy’s elbow to the face in the U.S. game? That was far more likely to cause a real injury, and equally intentional. A headbutt to the chest? After a few replays, it didn’t even look that hard to me–more flopping and whining by Italy. Red card deserved for Zidane, to be sure, and an unacceptable blow to his team’s chance to win, but lets not lose our heads.
I’m sorry, but Italy played the most boring, whiny, dirty football of the cup, with the possible exception of Portugal (except Portugal was never boring). France didn’t deserve to win that game, but don’t forget Italy had already tried to take Zidane out earlier in the game (and almost succeeded). I’m not even a fan of France or anything, but Zidane should be criticized for letting himself get taken out of the game when his team still had a chance to win, not for doing something that was particularly more violent or dirty than we’ve seen a number of times this cup. Still maybe the best player of his generation.
/OT, apologies. Still very relieved about the Mariners win.
Papi Ortiz just GIDP’d in the 18th. So much for being clutch.
Hell of a relief performance by McCarthy.
Well when Cliff freaking Politte is the only guy left in the pen, you know you have to step it up.
The wife called while I was at the game to tell me that Zidane had been sent off, then later to say that Italy had won on penalties. I said, “Italy won?” The entire section turned to look at me.
Were there any WC highlights on the Jumbotron? Nope.
The “hydroplane” race was hilarious. All three of the boats “sunk.”
The unis were OK, but the Tigers unis looked better.
I took pics and will post them eventually.
Jason Varitek is now 0-8 in the BOS-CWS game, which is now in the bottom of the 19th inning. I’m so glad the Mariners got rid of that bum.
The Red Sox threw that game.
189: Well, they waited 19 innings to do it, so if their intention was to throw the game then they suck at throwing games.
Fwiw Varitek went 0-9 in that 19 inning game a few years back against the M’s, when Cameron hit that walk off hr off of good ol’ Jeff Fassero (who sort of became a poor man’s/lefty version of Mike Morgan)
Anyone remember that one?
Anyone remember that one?
I was at that game, and was one of the maybe 2,000 people who stuck around to the very end. Varitek went 1 for 9 in that game, by the way.
i was there, too. sitting in right with my wife when the ball looped over the fence.
that was before ‘god save america’ or ‘god bless the queen’…, which we now must sing every game. luckily we didn’t have to sing that one twice back in the good ol’ days…
I was at that game. My friend Pat rented a suite; we were down the 3b line, and most of the park left, including the folks in the suites (ours and those next to us). So, even though it was a 19 inning game, beer sales were cut off at the normal time. But people in the suites left behind all sorts of different kinds of beers in their fridges, so Pat went out on beer runs and raided the other suites’ fridges. He’d come back with armfuls of Samuel Adams etc. every inning or so, as more and more of the suites emptied out.
We stayed till the end, of course. It was awesome. And I felt like I had really gotten my money’s worth out of the suite (it cost $100 per person, so when you figure I got to see more than 2 games/18 innings of ball….
OK, it’s time to get with it. The M’s have survived a crappy start, regained position with a good June and have survived a disaster of a home stand. We are still only 2.5 games out, we know what works and what needs to be fixed. If Bavasi does not move now but instead waits for the traditional end of July madness, he is worthless. I am not going to suggest moves, smarter folks than I can do that, i just know that the holes are there to be seen, fill them. Before the others do.
#148– pursue Leyland when, in the off-season when they had a anger under contract?
I meant before they hired Hargrove and after they fired Melvin.
I wasn’t at that game; we were on vacation in Oregon. But we couldn’t figure out why there wasn’t a summary of the game in the local paper. Next day the paper is talking about the 19 inning game.
I think the Milwaukee Brewers wore the same Seattle Pilots “Turn-Back-the-Clock” uniforms in 2000.
I was listening to the game off the KIRO website, before MLB claimed a monopoly on the Internet. Dave was commenting, with amazement, how many people were still listening on the Internet (thousands, as I recall), just as Cameron launched it.
I was also at the 19′er. I started the game up in the 300′s and by the 10th I was down behind homeplate. I remember everyone down there taunting Nomar as he went through his lengthy in-between swing routine. The best part, for me an NPB fan, was Kaz coming in and getting us out of a bases loaded jam in, I believe the 15th. Man what a blast, gotta love the 14th inning stretch.
#196– because at that point in time Leyland hadn’t decided he wanted to manage again. Any time someone asked, he said no. The M’s fired Melvin, hired Hargrove and it was after that that Leyland says that he decided he was interested in managing, but just the Phillies, as they were close to home. He called them, went in for an interview, a lot of folks thought he was a lock, and then the job went to Manuel. He went home until old friend Dombrowski called him about the Detroit opening, and hired him almost on the spot– you may recall it was one of those hires that had eyebrows raised due to the minimal nod to mandated minority interviews…
#172: Didn’t the authors here lift the “Snelling” ban after his callup last year?
So I got bored here and I tried loading this site in NCSA Mosaic. Check out what came up
And now I demand browser compatibility.
Travis Chick’s first start as a Mariner (AA San Antonio):
5.2 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 6 BB(!), 4 SO, 4 grondball outs, 8 flyball outs, and one wild pitch.
The game saw the Missions give up 12 walks. Chick had half. Kahn had one, the usually good control having Craig James gave up 4 free passes in 3 IP, and Jason Mackintosh had the last one.
The Midland RockHounds pitchers walked 5 too, so I’m guessing that the umpire might have had a tight strike zone.
From the Los Angeles Times tonight:
LOS ANGELES — Nothing against Roy Oswalt and Chris Capuano, late additions to the National League All-Star pitching staff, but how about carving out a spot for Aaron Sele?
It’s no more far-fetched than the soft-throwing 36-year-old trotting to the mound for the sixth inning Sunday after staggering through the fifth and briskly retiring the side, striking out two to bring his total to seven.
Perhaps most impressive about Sele’s six-inning, one-run performance that led to the Los Angeles Dodgers’ 3-1 victory over the San Francisco Giants at Dodger Stadium was that it was no different than numerous other outings he has made since coming up from triple A the first week of May.
As for the All-Star Game, Sele would just as soon pass. He’s got three days on a lake near Seattle planned. He’s going to teach his kids to water ski, and he’ll throw a pole into the water and reflect on a 6-2 record and 2.91 ERA that includes a 6-0 mark at Dodger Stadium.
He says he won’t dwell on what lays ahead, even though his track record warrants concern.
Sele has left the life in his arm at the lake during the All-Star break the last three years, posting a 5-13 record with a 6.67 ERA. Will this year be different?
“I can’t explain it,” he said, shrugging. “When my pitches are down in the strike zone, I have success. When they aren’t, I don’t.
Aaron Sele’s ERA: 3.05
Aaron Sele’s xFIP: 5.09
Think he’s in for another second half collapse? Yea, me too.
ah, but you have to like his attitude towards life, esp. if he isn’t on your roster anymore…
Dave, is it pronounced Balen-tin or Bal-ent-ien?
More Aaron Sele Kool-Aid consumption, from The Associated Press:
LOS ANGELES  After spending the first month of the season in the minor leagues, Aaron Sele has given the Los Angeles Dodgers’ shaky starting rotation quite a boost.
Fact is, the 36-year-old right-hander has been unbeatable at home.
Sele worked six strong innings, Nomar Garciaparra extended his hitting streak to 21 games, and the Dodgers beat All-Star Jason Schmidt and the San Francisco Giants 3-1 Sunday.
Sele (6-2) allowed four hits and one run while walking two and striking out a season-high seven before being relieved by Brad Penny to start the seventh. Sele is 6-0 with a 1.65 ERA in seven starts at Dodger Stadium this season.
“This guy throws strikes,” Dodgers manager Grady Little said. “He changes speeds and throws strikes. That’s the No. 1 ingredient to winning baseball.”
Sele, who went 6-12 for the Seattle Mariners last season, has no explanation for his remarkable success at home.
“I like pitching with this team behind me,” he said. “Teams usually put the ball in play against me. The guys play great defense.”
As Little pointed out, Sele is anything but overpowering. His fastball rarely rises above 85 mph, and most of his strikeouts come on off-speed pitches.
Sele has had a much tougher time on the road, going 0-2 with a 4.71 ERA in four starts.
how’s his run support? usually a good indicator of Sele Success….
Dave, is it pronounced Balen-tin or Bal-ent-ien?
I say Bal-en-tien. I’ve never spoken to him, so I may be totally off base. Everyone I know says Bal-en-tien, though.
well, that’s what I thought, but the ESPN guys kept saying it as Balen-tin…
And now I demand browser compatibility.
Did you ever have a computer when Mosaic came out (1994)? Did you even know what one was?
Yes, I did. I had a 1990 NEC Ready 486 desktop. I had Windows 3.1, and my mother was in computers at the time, and had to use t he internet and email, and we acquired NCSA Mosaic. I remember this very well.
I’ve been a computer geek since I was little and I would play around on my Dad’s 1986 Toshiba “Laptop” complete with 286 processor, and I learned all the ins and outs of the original Lotus 1-2-3 at the age of about 2.
As a kidlet in the early 1970s, I had a Fisher-Price “My First Computer and E-Z-Bake Oven” ….
I was taught BASIC Plus 2 as a second language from the time I was born, and learned to write simple programs at the age of 3.
My mother intended to teach me all about computers so I’d be wealthy and successful. Then she realized they were developing quickly, she had another kid, and 2 years later she was out of the programming business. Today she knows nothing about computers.
Do you speak basic BASIC, COBOL and FORTRAN?
(Are those still used?)
Yes, I know COBOL and FORTRAN, but I was never educated in the original BASIC, because my Mom didn’t think it would be necessary in a few years.
They are not still used as far as I know, except for advanced derivatives of BASIC only extremely loosely based on the original language.
Microsoft’s langauge VB.NET is the only modern BASIC successor.
Heh. My first computer was a Commodore VIC-20. I got it in 1982 for my 10th birthday.
I built my first web page at the end of 1994.
Your family must have been rich, dw.
All of our computers were always company computers, from MCLC of Columbus OH, which is now out of business. I have early memories of a modem in my room.
And then we had our own company computers from Executive Office Place which my parents founded in 1986 and sold in 1990, under the name Malcor, and I am, after digging back to find evidence that my parents actually existed and the name Malcor actually existed is when the legal Malcor (a combination of Malloy & Corcoran) group got sued in 2000. Idiots.
wow. The VIC-20 was under US$300. My bad.
#219 Yes, I know COBOL and FORTRAN, but I was never educated in the original BASIC, because my Mom didn’t think it would be necessary in a few years.
They are not still used as far as I know, except for advanced derivatives of BASIC only extremely loosely based on the original language.
I have a friend who does COBOL programming for an insurance company in Seattle; some companies have so much legacy code in place that it’s easier to just keep adding new capabilities and interfaces to COBOL than to try to junk the COBOL code and start anew.
Fortran is still being used by at least some scientists; a physics prof that I know wrote a program to simulate the motion of plasma particles using Fortran, and a friend a few years ago did his master’s thesis research using a simulation of fault lines and earthquakes, using Fortran.
I’m not claiming that these people are at the forefront technologically, but the places that they work for are not backwater boondocks either (Safeco and USC, e.g.)
RE: 208, 211…I know this is late and maybe no one will read it, but, the nice thing about Spanish is that there are actually rules for this. So, if it is a Spanish name, it’s pronounced Ba-LEN-tien. No syllables in Spanish begin with a vowel, and without an accent mark, you always emphasize the second to last syllable. Oh, and ien, ian, and ion are all considered one syllable in Spanish, go figure.
On the other hand, Curaçao isn’t an all Spanish-speaking country by any means. According to Wikipedia, “The languages widely spoken on Curaçao are Papiamento, Dutch, Spanish and English.” Now, Balentien obviously isn’t a Dutch name or English, so it’s either Spanish or Papiamento, which is a hybrid of Portuguese, Dutch, English, and Spanish. Anyway, I think it’s Ba-LEN-tien, but if it’s a Papiamento name, all bets are off–though that could be right anyway.
One other great tidbit from the Wikipedia article on Curaçao:
“The end of slavery caused economic hardships, causing many Curaçao people to emigrate to other islands, such as to Cuba to work in sugarcane plantations.”
I’m sure this is a basically accurate statement, but would it kill people to say something like “the end of slavery dispersed economic hardship to the whole population,” or something? I’m not asking for them to say it democratized economic hardship, but…