Game 94, Mariners at Yankees

DMZ · July 18, 2006 at 3:08 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

If I had to pick today’s games most unlikely to turn into a duel beteween pitchers, this would be it.

RHP Joel Pineiro v RHP Sidney Ponson.


On the other hand, we get an only mildly infuriating lineup:
RF-L Ichiro!
3B-R Beltre
2B-R Lopez
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
DH-B Everett
C-R Johjima
SS-R Betancourt
CF-R Jones

The Yankees oblige us by playing Miguel Cairo, who sucks, Bernie Williams, who isn’t good anymore, Phillips, who sucks, Cabrera, who sucks, Nick Green, who sucks, and Kelly Stinnett, who sucks.

Bad pitching versus bad hitting: who will triumph?


534 Responses to “Game 94, Mariners at Yankees”

  1. thehiddentrack on July 18th, 2006 9:59 pm


  2. DiamondDave on July 18th, 2006 9:59 pm

    btw, nice call Joser (443). Although some people would say that was the odds-on bet 😉

  3. msb on July 18th, 2006 9:59 pm

    and three extra inning losses that really should have been wins….

  4. argh on July 18th, 2006 10:02 pm

    Next person that says ‘game over’ when Putz takes the mound gets pounded.

  5. apunetid on July 18th, 2006 10:02 pm

    We now know what the ’85 Cardinals felt like in game 6.

  6. John in NV on July 18th, 2006 10:05 pm

    And for the record, the Yankee announcers also more or less said that Pineiro’s struggles are due to steroid withdrawals.

    Oh, and this just in “thunder and lightning, torrential rains in NYC but play goes on at The Stadium until Yankees no longer have fewer runs than opposition…”

  7. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:10 pm

    and, hey!!!! Mike Reilly will be behind home plate tomorrow!!!!

    from the AP:
    “As thunder crackled and a heavy rain began to fall, pinch-runner Bubba Crosby advanced to second on Putz’s wild pitch.

    Then the Yankees got a huge break. Second baseman Jose Lopez made a sliding grab of Jorge Posada’s grounder on the slick outfield grass, found a firm grip and threw a strike to first. But umpire Mike Reilly called the slow-footed Posada safe – replays clearly showed he was out – leaving runners at the corners.

    The Mariners screamed in protest, and a white towel came sailing out of Seattle’s dugout. Manager Mike Hargrove charged out to argue and was quickly ejected by Reilly.”

  8. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:13 pm

    #506– And for the record, the Yankee announcers also more or less said that Pineiro’s struggles are due to steroid withdrawals.

    boy, that’s one long withdrawal….

  9. LB on July 18th, 2006 10:18 pm

    For the record, Michael Kay called Melky’s home run on the Yankee broadcast by saying “…And a child shall lead them.”

    Does this mean that umpire Mike Reilly is a kid at heart?

    Michael Kay is a worthless sack of used food. See ya!

  10. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:18 pm

    Drayer just wondered why with Damon at 1st, Phillips at 2nd & Alex with a bad toe at 3rd — no bunting? 🙂

    the pool reporter was just in with Reilly; what are the odds he actually would admit that he blew that enitre inning?

  11. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:27 pm

    Drayer also said she was in the elevator with a Yankee broadcaster heading to the field for what they thought was the end of the 9th, and the Yankee broadcaster said it embarrassing (even as a Yankee) the disadvantage the Mariners were under with the rain in their half of the inning.

  12. manny ortez on July 18th, 2006 10:30 pm

    Tough break for Putz having to throw in the rain like that. Looked like he had no command and was more or less just throwing spitballs and trying to get the ball anywhere near the plate.

    Sorry if this has already been covered, but with a strong outing by Pineiro at Yankee Stadium, does this make a trade more likely? Would Chacon be an improvement? I know he isn’t generally liked here but it seems that he would be able to put up some solid numbers in a park like Safeco.

  13. IdahoInvader on July 18th, 2006 10:30 pm

    Fwiw, I was JJ from Nampa, ID and actually got to talk to Shannon. I basically just criticized how poorly Grover uses his bench as to why were always coming up short in these type of games.

  14. Anthony on July 18th, 2006 10:36 pm

    Chacon has some stuff to work with. Fastball that moves, decent curve. If he can locate the fastball, he’s a solid mid-rotation guy. When the command goes though…well, see this season. Not a bad guy to take a flyer on.

    In a final YES-related note, Sidney Ponson was the Player of the Game. No, seriously. Honest. I’m not making that up.

  15. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:39 pm

    and Huytler (not the sharpest knife in the drawer) turned it into a question about usage just the last two days, and confused the issue ehough that by the time it got to Shannon it was a discussion of the quality, not the use…. Drayer did say that Mateo was the real problem at the moment, because of his inconsistancy, and the fact that he will not ever say if he is tired, or worse hurt, and she is reminded of the way he was pitching before they found out his shoulder was a problem earlier…

  16. IdahoInvader on July 18th, 2006 10:41 pm

    Thanks MSB

    Very perceptive on your part. That was how I would summarize their “answer” too

    I’m glad at least you were getting what I was TRYING to tell them.

  17. LB on July 18th, 2006 10:42 pm

    #514: YES is a worthless sack of ….

    Damn right I’m bitter.

  18. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:42 pm

    #514– In a final YES-related note, Sidney Ponson was the Player of the Game. No, seriously. Honest. I’m not making that up.

    it must have been those slimming Yankee pinstripes.

  19. eponymous coward on July 18th, 2006 10:43 pm

    Drayer did say that Mateo was the real problem at the moment, because of his inconsistancy, and the fact that he will not ever say if he is tired, or worse hurt, and she is reminded of the way he was pitching before they found out his shoulder was a problem earlier…

    Julio knows his job kinda hangs by his thread, as a generic bullpen guy.

    Unfortunately, sucking while pitching injured means losing his job too.

  20. msb on July 18th, 2006 10:53 pm

    and when you have been told, and told again, that you are to TELL them when you are hurt…

  21. Typical Idiot Fan on July 18th, 2006 10:55 pm

    I don’t even care that Julio gave up the game winning HR after the rain delay. I just don’t. The 9th inning was the ballgame. Everything afterward is unimportant.

  22. joser on July 18th, 2006 10:59 pm

    MSB spends so much time listening to KJR, it has to generate a certain genius in teasing out (or imposing) the faintest glimmer of intelligence in these kinds of answers.

  23. LB on July 18th, 2006 11:05 pm

    #373: Thanks for the update. I got my interpretation from an older fan quite a long time ago (but after the rule had changed, so he was wrong).

  24. joser on July 18th, 2006 11:06 pm

    From the NY Times:

    …Posada soon grounded a ball to the glove hand of López, the second baseman. López gathered it on the grass, rolled and set himself for a throw to first.

    Replays clearly showed Posada to be out by half a step. But the umpire Mike Reilly missed it, yanking his arms to call Posada safe.

    And, more amusingly:

    Damon said he actually owns a first baseman’s glove but borrowed one from Charlie Wonsowicz, a batting practice pitcher. Damon said he even thought about taking grounders at first before the game, but decided not to because of the heat.

    Asked when he last played the position, Damon said, “Oh, shoot, Little League. I just knew I had to relax and have fun with it. I wasn’t going to go out there to win a Gold Glove.”

    Damon got no grounders at first base, but he did take a pickoff throw that unnerved him. “I screamed back in the dugout, ‘What the heck are we doing?’” Damon said.

    Oh, and the writer called Ponson “solid” in his debut (there may be a place for Pineiro in the Bronx yet). “We’re looking forward to his next start,” Torre said after the game.

  25. Typical Idiot Fan on July 18th, 2006 11:10 pm

    Another poster at Lookout Landing fixed my magic card.

    This looks much better.

  26. John in L.A. on July 18th, 2006 11:15 pm

    “Drayer did say that Mateo was the real problem at the moment, because of his inconsistancy,”

    I think his problem is more consistancy, myself.

    I dream of him being inconsistent.

  27. John D. on July 19th, 2006 12:59 am

    DRAYER also said that with DAMON and PHILLIPS playing new positions, and A-ROD having an injured toe; a bunt should have been tried. (If only there’d been someone on base, the light bulb may have gone on.)
    BTW, was HASSEY managing or was HARGROVE managing from the tunnel?

    BTBTW, playing in the rain favors the offensive team. (The pitcher’s bare hand is subject to the elements, whereas the batter can cover his bare hands with batting gloves.) In fairness, games shouldn’t be played in the rain.

  28. Jon Wells on July 19th, 2006 1:53 am

    Once again, Mike Hargrove gets outmanaged. I wish he were taking notes of what his counterpart in the New York dugout did tonight, but I’m sure he wasn’t.

    In several games earlier this year (when Bloomquist was his only backup infielder and the club was carrying several pinch-hitters on the roster) Hargrove didn’t use pinch-hitters in the ninth inning because he said he basically said he wouldn’t know who to play in the infield if he pinch-hit for Bloomquist (after previously pinch-hitting for Betancourt) or wouldn’t pinch-hit for Betancourt if Bloomquist had already been used.

    And several times I screamed at my TV that Hargrove should try and tie or win the fucking game and then worry about what to do about who plays the field if and when they tied the score or went ahead.

    Which is exactly what Joe Torre did tonight. He pulled out the stops in the ninth inning and tied the score. And he ended up with two players playing out of position, playing their positions for the first time in their Major League careers — for the 10th and the 11th innings. And, woah, the Yankees somehow still managed to win! No, they hadn’t played those positions, but they’re baseball players – they could play the positions if they had to. It’s not like asking a position player to pitch in a tie game or asking someone who’s never caught to get behind the plate.

    Yet Hargrove doesn’t manage like that because he’d rather lose the old fashioned way (in 9 innings) than tie the game and possibly lose the game later due to a mistake by one of the players playing out of position. This is most likely because he’d be blamed for the loss and the light would be shined on him. Joe Torre, of course, is secure in his position and has the respect of his players and if Damon or Phillips had cost the Yankees the game by playing out of position, the players would be smart enough to realize that they’d never have gotten to extra innings without Torre’s manuevering.

    The more I watch Mike Hargrove manage the harder it is to believe that this guy once managed a team that was 3 outs away from a World Championship. I prefer to remember him as the clown whose team in Baltimore lost 32 of the last 36 games his final season there. He’s also the moron who filled out the lineup card wrong with Cleveland the late 90’s and his pitcher had to bat in a non-interleague game…

  29. Typical Idiot Fan on July 19th, 2006 2:29 am

    Irony, thy name is Carl Everett:

    .229 / .299 / .367.

    Hint: Find the OPS.

  30. AK1984 on July 19th, 2006 5:30 am

    Re. #529:

    Carl Everett, with an OPS of .666, is Satan!

  31. pablothegreat on July 19th, 2006 7:55 am

    I want to take this opportunity to say that Mike Reilly, 1b umpire from last night, will be the HP umpire for this morning’s game. I imagine him blowing a big call and the Mariners erupting.

  32. msb on July 19th, 2006 8:44 am

    it’s been entertaining–

    from the Daily News:
    Without that intense thunderstorm – not to mention a break or two from the umpires – the Yankees probably would have been talking about how encouraged they were by starter Sidney Ponson’s strong debut in a
    frustrating loss … The two decisions in question were [umpire Mike]
    Reilly’s failure to call for a rain delay until after the game was already tied in the ninth (despite pitcher J.J. Putz clearly struggling to grip the ball) and, more notably, his safe call on Jorge Posada’s one-out grounder to second that preceded Damon’s game-tying sac fly.

    and the NY Post:
    Now the ump wears pinstriped boxers. Maybe all that carping by George
    Steinbrenner to MLB offices about calls against the Yankees finally paid a dividend.

    One night after surviving three errors by Alex Rodriguez, the Yankees last night took advantage of a missed call in the ninth inning by first-base ump Mike Reilly to stage an electric, come-from-behind 5-4
    victory in 11 innings over the Mariners.

    [Lopez’] throw to first clearly beat the heavy-legged Posada – but Reilly, the crew chief, called Posada safe.

  33. Lauren, token chick on July 19th, 2006 8:57 am

    I’m too discouraged to summon profanity.

  34. mariners23 on July 19th, 2006 9:13 am

    I almost [CRIED] last night when that nobody hit that homerun!

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