Game 114, Mariners at Rangers

DMZ · August 10, 2006 at 5:04 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Joel Pineiro v Adam Eaton.

Wow, game time sure snuck up on me today.


226 Responses to “Game 114, Mariners at Rangers”

  1. G-Man on August 10th, 2006 7:26 pm

    OK, I gave up after 8th and switched to Yanks-ChiSox on ESPN. ARod and Melky immediately made errors to let the Sox take a 3-0 lead. I feel much better now.

  2. Enrique on August 10th, 2006 7:26 pm

    Owning Michael Young on my fantasy team is an interesting thing at the moment. Yesterday, the Rangers beat up the As 14-0 and I was pissed because he went 0-5. Today, he comes up to bat with the bases loaded and Mateo pitching… suffice it to say, I didn’t expect his consecutive RBI-less at bat streak to continue.

  3. AK1984 on August 10th, 2006 7:27 pm

    According to Wikipedia:

    “Between high school and [Mike Hargrove’s] major league debut, all four of the teams for which he played (Perryton High, Class A, Class AA, and Texas) all shared the same nickname, the Rangers.”

  4. firova on August 10th, 2006 7:27 pm

    If the site can refer to Snelling as “Doyle” for superstitious reasons, I see no reason not to refer to Hargrove as “Dudley” until the day he is relieved of his duties.

  5. Eleven11 on August 10th, 2006 7:29 pm

    200- Not sure what you mean, I just thought he looked tired. He might be fresh as a daisy but it’s not what he looked like. What ever.

  6. msb on August 10th, 2006 7:29 pm

    so, does Sandmeyer on the KJR postgame still talk about how Hargrove is doing just fine, and sure you could pick at little thing here, and a little thing there, just like you could any manager, and let a series like the Oakland series happen & the knee-jerk fans, then they call for his firing but really, he’s fine. Bavasi, on the other hand … and don’t even bring up the failure that is Beltre…

    oh, and I loved Johnny Oates, but this is Texas’s 10 year reunion– why are the Ms broadcasters talking it up? Are they planning on showing us the Alumni game?

  7. Lauren, token chick on August 10th, 2006 7:29 pm

    OK, so here’s the plan. Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, grand slam.

  8. Lauren, token chick on August 10th, 2006 7:30 pm

    Or… line out, then the rest.


  9. msb on August 10th, 2006 7:31 pm

    #205– I was agreeing with you– it’s Hargrove not giving him a day off I don’t agree with 🙂

  10. Enrique on August 10th, 2006 7:31 pm

    I’m pretty sure 5 walks from Ibañez puts us at WFB.

  11. Eleven11 on August 10th, 2006 7:33 pm

    209-Sorry, I’m beat. Looked forward to this game when I got off work and find out that it’s Grover as usual. Mateo the Gasinator, etc. I guess I am just cranky. Sorry. again!!!

  12. firova on August 10th, 2006 7:35 pm

    206. Beltre a failure? Not again.

  13. msb on August 10th, 2006 7:38 pm

    #212– don’t even try to convince Sandmeyer that Beltre will ever be worth anything.

  14. msb on August 10th, 2006 7:44 pm

    you know, I just sort of assumed that Pineiro would lose this game, but when it happens after you let yourself believe that he might actually pull it off, it is so much harder. And now we get Gil pitching at Arlington. Unlike Yankee Stadium, Gil does not request to pitch in Arlington.

  15. Josh on August 10th, 2006 7:52 pm

    According to Hargrove he felt that they had a good chance to get a double play groundball with Mateo. That’s kind of strange, given that Mateo doesn’t toss many grounders at all.

  16. G-Man on August 10th, 2006 7:52 pm

    Postgame presser on FSN; Grover is saying he looked for Mateo to get a DP grounder when he put him in.

    And I look to win the PowerBall without buying a ticket.

  17. msb on August 10th, 2006 8:12 pm

    Drayer just said that when she asked Hargrove if he would have gone to Lowe if he could have, he said yes.

  18. msb on August 10th, 2006 8:14 pm

    the cway she told it, they both phrased it more diplomatically than I did, though…

  19. IdahoInvader on August 10th, 2006 8:54 pm


    This game had literally EVERYTHING that is wrong with the our idiot manager, our impatient/impotent offense (even at the American League’s version of what Coor’s USED to be) and our one MAJOR WEAK LINK in the ‘pen.

    And NONE of it surprised ANY of us…sigh

  20. pablothegreat on August 10th, 2006 9:07 pm

    219: Actually, the Mariners hit a ton of hard line drives right at people. I don’t think the offense deserves any blame.

  21. IdahoInvader on August 10th, 2006 9:37 pm


    One walk and five hits in Arlington? That’s pretty bad. Not to mention our August stats going into this game are about as exciting as a funeral:

    .227avg .272obp .332slg

    Somehow I don’t buy the bad luck excuse this time. Not saying they didn’t hit the ball hard, but you’re saying they don’t deserve ANY blame?

  22. Shwa on August 10th, 2006 11:05 pm


  23. AK4Sea on August 10th, 2006 11:50 pm

    I don’t know what it is about this team, but it seems like we go out of our way to lose every game that would bring us back to .500. I could actually research that to see if there’s any truth behind it, but right now I’m just so annoyed at the whole thing that I’d rather pout and not do anything.

    *mumble, grumble*

  24. BelaXadux on August 11th, 2006 3:42 am

    I’m not a Hargrove hater, but he really is showing off his bad side in the last week. Why, oh why did he send P i n e i r o out for the 7th? Grover has watched Joel pitch for over a year and a half, and by God any Major League manager should know when his guy’s done. Grover in the paper today: “Every game from here on out is important.” Really? Like, that series just blown against our main division rival _wasn’t_ important? I mean, it COULDN’T have been _that_ important since Grover didn’t bother to adjust his pitching rotation, instead sending out his three worst pitchers against the As’ three _best_ pitchers.

    Grover isn’t stupid in so many words. He simply expects that when he writes out his line-up card, the names on it are the best ten names available to him at the time, and it’s up to those guys to win or lose. Grover doesn’t make match-ups to improve his odds. He’s locked into roles for guys until and unless they massively fail. He really, really believes that it’s up to ‘his regulars’ to win the game, and with that kind of psychological burden he can’t bring himself to intervene when the match-up isn’t there, or it’s reasonable to infer that the performance won’t be there in a particular game situation. Grover’s not a jerk, he’s decent at managing people, and he’s better than Melvin, but at this point he’s a burden to his squad because he’s not capable of making them better.

  25. BelaXadux on August 11th, 2006 3:54 am

    Mateo’s slider is actually good for a groundball if he locates it down, and in past years he’s pulled off some DPs with it. This year, he can’t get the ball down at all, his slider has been fairly flat lately, which Hargrove knows ’cause he’s commented on it, and the GBs haven’t been there. Yes, Mateo was going to put the ball in the strikezone, but the idea that Mateo Version 06.0 was going to get the DP there is just . . . prayerful. Sean Green is a GB pitcher: he was the better bet by far to get a GB, but he doesn’t have his manager’s confidence ’cause ‘he’s a rookie.’ This is part of being a mediocre manager, getting locked into roles to the point that you convince yourself of seemingly necessary illusions rather than actual marginal probabilities.

    We are not going to enjoy this road trip. Good thing I have other, better things on my mind at the present.

  26. oNeiRiC232 on August 11th, 2006 8:10 am

    One of our starters now has an ERA of 5.91 on the season…

    Why on earth are we not calling up some random Joe Dudemar from the farm? Because he might suck and have an ERA of 5? That’s still a whole friggin run better than Pineiro.


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