The fiery veteran leadership of Carl Everett
7/26/2006 Designated DH Carl Everett for assignment, Carl leaves team
W @ Toronto
LWW @ Cleveland
WLW @ Baltimore
LLL vs Oakland
8/7/2006 Released Carl Everett
WWW vs Tampa Bay
LLLL @ Texas
LLL @ Oakland
8-12 since Carl left the team, a .400 team. With him, they were 48-52, .480
Carl Everett – the can’t-hit-at-all version – was such a great clubhouse leader, brought so much energy to the team that they were a dramatically better team with him than they are without him and getting much better offensive production from the DH.
And look at those teams they did win series against — Baltimore, Tampa Bay, Cleveland. None of them above .500. Over the whole stretch they faced sub-.500 competition ((Toronto 1 * .533 + Cleveland 3*.450 + ….)/total # of games).
Bring back Carl, folks. I don’t think anyone else has signed him yet, maybe we can make some kind of amends. Guarantee next year’s option. What’s it going to take?
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Um…..a book burning on the pitcher’s mound at Safeco?
With our luck, this would be the one post the M’s front office would read and take to heart.
Sweet Lincoln’s mullet… you just know KJR or the Times will figure out the first part of this and we’ll never hear the end of this veteran leadership crap.
I dunno — it’s not like we could beat Oakland when he was here, either . . .
Using the last 3 games as an example, we could bring him back and have him bat lefthanded against lefthanded pitching and righthanded against righthanded pitching.
You have a sick sense of humor, my friend.
Maybe Willie can step up and become the next fiery clubhouse leader. Looks like the bar for entry’s pretty low.
Oddy enough, his name was invoked just this morning when Sandmeyer & Jeff Nelson (after a report concerning the Texas/Angels brawl) complained that the Mariners needed a brawl but there was no one on the team ‘red-assed’ enough to start one. Nelson helpfully pointed out that they’d had one, but they got rid of him…
I stopped listening at that point because Sandmeyer was getting rather unhealthily overexcited while asking Nellie about fighting the groundskeeper in Boston.
Maybe we could have him come back and beat WFB up bad enough that he can’t bat anymore. I think that might be worth it.
Once again the USS Mariner was way ahead of the Mariner FO, and labeled the signing of Everett as “horrible” a nano-second after it was announced. Applause!
Since the USS Mariners (and nearly every other thinking fan) made the correct call on the Everett fiasco….what are odds on the Mariners putting on a strong finishing sprint until the end of the year, and close this year with yet again another 90 plus loss season?
The chest-thumping among those boy-voiced emoticons at KJR disgusts me on a regular basis. Then I ask myself – why do I listen? To avoid bad music and news about things that break my heart that I cannot change.
And from time to time, someone with some brains will make an appearance – Tim Kurkjian (how’s that for accurate spelling?) talking to the least offensive guy there, Mike Gastineau and . . . I can’t think of anyone else.
Where are all these prospects bavasai was alledgedly trading for? Foppert,carrbajal so on so on where are these players that we were rebuiling with.I see no results are proof in the pudding as they say.Just a little question trying to see where the spin doctors results are.
8 “red-assed”? What on earth could that mean? Someone who’d been spanked?
Gastineau has said some pretty stupid things. I remember him jumping on the Bloomie Bandwagon.
Reading Jason Puckett’s blog, at least he seemed to recognize that Pineiro was crap and Jones should be in CF.
Carl Everett season line: .227/.297/.360
Mariner DHs since Carl’s departure: .222/.282/.361 (72 ABs)
#11
This is what I did to beat the fact that Seattle has 1 good FM radio station, kexp, and 0 good AM stations: I installed a dvd player in my truck. So I can either watch a movie or burn an MP3 dvd and play that. 70 cds, that’s how many full length cds I can fit on a dvd. It’s like a jukebox in my truck. With one disc. Now that I have gotten it I will never own a vehicle without one. Road trip!
#10: I would put my money on Grover for the “Five-peat” of 90 loss seasons. 2003 Orioles were 63 and 63– we are WAY AHEAD of that pace — team would need to go 16 and 26 (I believe) to finish with 90 losses. Think of what an improvement 16 and 26 would be over the way they have been playing lately. In fact, the real challenge for Grover would be to see if they can make it to 100 losses
How about bringing back Lou instead?
Doesn’t KJR have one jock who is not box-of-rocks dumb? What’s his name, David Locke? Shining genius in their dim bulb firmament.
Go ahead and point out either his glaring flaws or the fact that he left KJR years ago, and make me look stupid.
Forget Carl Everett, if we want veteran leadership, we need to sign Jose Canseco… you know, the knuckleball pitcher!
Proof is here
As soon as Carl left, everybody else stopped hitting.
Locke has moved on to be the play-by-play for the Seattle Okies on their new talk radio station.
He was probably solid on his stat analysis (I leave that to you experts to judge) but as a broadcaster, he always sounded drunk or like he had suffered a terrible accident just before coming on the air. He is genuinely enthused about Store baseketball, I think. That is remarkable.
Like the rest of them, he projected an emotional age just north of 12 years.
Storm basketball. Review before you post, DEEK.
#17:
I have also been waiting to see if Grover can make it 5 years in a row with at least 90 losses. That’s got to be closing in on a major league record. How many managers can survive four straight seasons of 90+ losses? I thought this would be the year he broke his streak, but it looks like he is coming through.
Did USSM do a mid-year review of Bavasi? What his approval ratings? Trending downward or upward?
The sign of a good club house is when a leader goes down someone steps in. Once again, this site has down played the amazing contribution that Willie B is making. He has solidified the CF postion after Reeds injury and has picked up the Home Runs missed when C Rex got axed. If any stat types care to check, WB now as a slugging percentage and, wait for it, 11 RBI’s! Don’t believe it, listen in every Wednesday, KJR.
#25 Its been all down hill sice he arrived and it will stay that way until they take the checkbook away from him.
I like Groz and Gas together. They’re unoffensive and likable, but I never really consider them all that knowledgable. Mitch and Softy are completely unlistenable.
To avoid bad music and news about things that break my heart that I cannot change.
yup.
If C-Rex were still here, there’s a good chance that 20-game stretch would have ended with the M’s at 0-20. And I’m not joking about that one.
Actually, I was listening to KJR at lunch today and Groz had already looked into the Carl angle, saying the M’s had gone 3-7 since he was released. He just surt of muttered it but then didn’t say anything else about it. I was very disappointed he didn’t elaborate.
Norm Charlton was also on KJR and said the meltdown is not Hargrove’s fault – no one could manage the M’s the way they are playing (especially starting pitching) right now. Norm wants Cruceta, Baek, and Bazardo to get a look in September. He was especially complimentary about Bazardo, saying he pitched the single best game he has seen of any Mariner’s pitcher in the organization this year.
Not the darkest humor can assuage my unhappiness with Manager Albatross still in command. Thanks for trying, though.
I think Dick Fain pointed this very fact out. Though he didn’t really use it to say that we should have kept Carl, more as an indictment of Bavasi’s work in regards to “Benuardo”.
KJR, your info-tainment station!
What the Mariners desperately need is a fiery clubhouse leader to flip over the post-game spread after one of their AL West losses. I’m talking fried chicken and mashed potatoes flying through the air. Three-day old lasagna plastered on the clubhouse wall. Mike Hargrove with pudding on his face.
You want team leadership? That’s team leadership!
Anyone who says that they wouldn’t rather have Benuardo than Carl is full of it. Yes, Benuardo hasn’t performed well so far but no one can say that at the time those deals went down that it wasn’t a clear upgrade.
Which brings me to another topic. Why is it that players seem to play worse in Seattle? I’d love to see a thread with some intelligent commentary on the subject. No one is allowed to say “because they’re cursed!” Really, what is it that causes this phenomenon?
Bored?
Agreed, that just sounds like bad manners.
Sports jocks willfully conflate ill manners and bad tempers with leadership.
Think Zidane’s ‘leadership’ in nailing Materazzi helped France in the world cup final? Did Rooney help to lead England by stamping on Carvallho’s wedding tackle?
I’d take the sort of leadership we used to get from Edgar. Speak quietly and carry a big stick.
Maybe we’ll plunk an Angel tonight and they’ll beat some sense into us.
Canseco is a great idea — he could save a roster spot since he can pitch too.
And he’s hitting better than Everett. His current line after 21 games with the Long Beach Armada is 176/325/397 with 4 HR.
He’s a much more likeable guy than Everett besides.
38: A nice brawl would be the most life we’ve seen out of this team in two weeks…
Not funny.
Did Rooney help to lead England by stamping on Carvallho’s wedding tackle?
Wedding tackle? That’s a new one. And I lived in the UK.
I thought it was “your meat and two veg.”
GROZ WITH GAS (See # 28) – You aren’t the person that called in and said, “Whoever thought of the idea of ‘Groz with Gas’ is a genius,” are you?
BTW–a litle math here–2 X 0 = 0
http://www.seattlest.com/attachments/seattle_seth/oaksea.GIF
I’ve always been skeptical about “meat and two veg”.
I mean, what man really regards his testicles as vegetables?
Right, and I don’t think there is any generic shape for a veg. Some are way to oblong, no?
“Way too oblong,” I should say . .
Wow, the Mariners site is referring to Doyle as “Ian Snelling”.
Ian Snelling? Didn’t he write the James Bond stories? Or was that Ian Fleming?
Does this mean he is our International Man of Mystery?
I think they have him confused with a particular Pirates pitcher.
Is it already April 1?
This is reminding me a lot of the correlation between # of pirates and global temperature.
This is reminding me a lot of the correlation between # of pirates and global temperature.
(I suck and mistyped the tag. Sorry.)
“Baltimore, Tampa Bay, Cleveland. None of them above .500.” Yup. That’s the ticket. The ‘06 Ms just can’t beat anything but other weak sisters. Which is why this team has never been in contention for anything.
The present funk is fundamentally the result of the players giving up any remaining illusions about the remainder of the season after the flop-out against Oakland in Safeco, and turning to consult their own individual oracles about what is best for them personally. Bloomquist full time in CF and Joel finally (mercifully) yanked from the rotation are the effective declarations by the Ms FO that they’ve thrown in the towel, too. Because the FO doesn’t really seem to have a development plan for anybody other than Felix, and they’ve over-promoted anyone who might potentially fit into the picture except, now, O’Flaherty, they have nothing to do. Except maybe a little roster churn with nonentities like Mike Morse and the Dobber which is another way of saying the same thing. *blechhh*
. . . I haven’t even read a box score, let alone listened to or watched a game since the first game in Texas: you can just see what’s coming, and I don’t have time for this kind of ineptitude.
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