Game 135, Mariners at Devil Rays

Dave · September 2, 2006 at 3:45 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Baek vs Howell, 4:05 pm.

J.P. Howell is a command lefty with average stuff who mixes up his pitches. He’s the kind of guy the M’s just can’t hit. Expect another low scoring performance from the offense, as Howell befuddles them with change-ups early in the count. Also, since this begins a three game stretch against LHP’s, don’t expect to see much in the way of Doyle until Tuesday.


100 Responses to “Game 135, Mariners at Devil Rays”

  1. NextYear on September 2nd, 2006 6:12 pm

    #45: and electrocuted.

  2. bigred on September 2nd, 2006 6:13 pm

    Baek is earnin a spot in the rotation for next year eh.

  3. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:14 pm

    I hope Pineiro has a typical slow start next year… for a different team.

  4. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:19 pm

    How cool would it be to see Shaun Alexander do the Ichiro tug on the sleeve bit after a touch down this year.

  5. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:20 pm

    I just happened to notice Adrian has 10 stolen bases. I seem to remember he was leading the league April or May with 9 SBs. Weird.

  6. Typical Idiot Fan on September 2nd, 2006 6:22 pm

    They mentioned on the radio side something about a pitcher tearing his labrum but I didn’t hear who it was. Did anybody catch that?

  7. sgt. schultz on September 2nd, 2006 6:23 pm

    56. casey fossum, some kid named brian stokes makes mlb debut on sunday vs mariners.

  8. Lauren, token chick on September 2nd, 2006 6:24 pm

    Phew. Thank the lord no one took off this time.

  9. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:24 pm

    Oh God. Yet another commentator singing the praises of WFB.

  10. apunetid on September 2nd, 2006 6:26 pm


  11. Lauren, token chick on September 2nd, 2006 6:26 pm

    Yeah! It *is* a situation where we could see Chris Snelling hit!

  12. Bender on September 2nd, 2006 6:27 pm

    Why wasn’t Doyle hitting there?

  13. Lauren, token chick on September 2nd, 2006 6:27 pm

    Well, at least Morse didn’t hit into a DP.

  14. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:28 pm

    Who’s the new color guy? He sounds like he could have more nerve-grating potential that Hendu.

  15. msb on September 2nd, 2006 6:29 pm

    Darnell Coles. He only come in when they are in Tampa….

  16. Bender on September 2nd, 2006 6:29 pm

    I guess they just want to keep it an official save situation.

  17. sgt. schultz on September 2nd, 2006 6:29 pm

    59. your favorite in right field now

  18. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:30 pm

    At least Hendu spoke slow and easy. Coles just won’t stop talking.

  19. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:32 pm

    Don’t we have anyone better than Joel to start the 8th. 12 losses in a row… remember?

  20. JI on September 2nd, 2006 6:32 pm

    There you have it.

    Joel Piniero, Major League Setup-Man.

    I don’t care if he just hit 94 on the gun, cut his ass.

  21. Dave in Palo Alto on September 2nd, 2006 6:35 pm

    I even loathe hearing the tv guys say something like “Willie goes back toward the wall” because you *know* the ball isn’t dropping on a baseball field.

  22. KW on September 2nd, 2006 6:36 pm

    Remember when Jo-el was part of the franchise’s future? I hope as much as anyone for him to be gone tomorrow, but I can’t help but feel sorry for a once-promsing pitcher now savaged by everyone.

  23. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:36 pm

    67, I don’t mind WFB as a late inning defensive replacement, pinch runner, or a guy to fetch gatorade for real major leaguers. As long as I don’t see him in a starting line up.

  24. David* on September 2nd, 2006 6:39 pm

    73: You sure you don’t mind him as a defensive replacement 😀

    Nice timing there WFB

  25. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:41 pm

    DC likes the sound of his own voice… mind you, I like the look of my own type.

  26. apunetid on September 2nd, 2006 6:41 pm

    Putz’s save opportunities keep getting longer and longer. Soon he’ll be going for 27 outs.

  27. Bender on September 2nd, 2006 6:43 pm

    I wouldn’t mind WFB so much if he didn’t start and the announcers would SHUT UP about him.

  28. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:43 pm


  29. apunetid on September 2nd, 2006 6:44 pm

    4 pitches, 3 outs. Nice work.

  30. Marvin on September 2nd, 2006 6:44 pm

    OK, at least Hendu doesn’t cheer for the team while the play-by-play guy is talking.

  31. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:44 pm

    #76. lol

  32. Dave in Palo Alto on September 2nd, 2006 6:44 pm

    Awesome job JJ! Yes!

  33. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:48 pm

    Ouch. That looked like it bounced off the kneecap.

  34. Bender on September 2nd, 2006 6:58 pm

    Holy SHIT! Beltre is so badASS!

  35. sidroo on September 2nd, 2006 6:58 pm


  36. Dave in Palo Alto on September 2nd, 2006 6:59 pm

    Okay, sorry I don’t think I would say Adrian is the best third basemen defensevely in the majors….

  37. Dave in Palo Alto on September 2nd, 2006 7:01 pm

    13th time’s the charm.

  38. Typical Idiot Fan on September 2nd, 2006 7:03 pm

    Interesting win. I’m okay with JJ Putz giving up solo shots with a 2-3 run lead, especially if it doesn’t matter in the end.

  39. dnc on September 2nd, 2006 7:16 pm

    Tough game from the D Rays perspective – go yard three times but none of them while anyone is on base.

    Baek looked decent again – 4 K’s, 1 walk, 1 HR (haven’t looked at the GB/FB numbers yet).

    I’m kind of warming to the idea of him as the cheap, replacement level 5th starter next year. I think he’d be better than Woods anyway.

  40. dnc on September 2nd, 2006 7:44 pm

    Scratch that, I must have blocked out how bad his last start was.

  41. colm on September 2nd, 2006 7:53 pm

    Well, the lake was nice. Only 2 more swimming days left this summer.

    How was the game again?n Oh, we won. Good-oh.

  42. Typical Idiot Fan on September 2nd, 2006 9:12 pm

    Nah, Baek actually had a good outing tonight. 9 groundballs to 6 flyballs, 1 hr, 4 Ks in 6 2/3 innings pitched and 1 walk. Solid start.

  43. Allen Jacobs on September 2nd, 2006 9:26 pm

    89. M’s already have 4th and 5th starters in Washburn and Hernandez. What they need is top of the rotation guys. Many may think of Felix as a TOR starter and he will likely be just that one day but he still has alot to learn.

  44. Typical Idiot Fan on September 2nd, 2006 9:49 pm

    Re 93:

    I look at things like this:


    Felix is certainly better then Washburn, even in a learning curve. Felix has actually pitched like a TOR pitcher this year, but has been having a lot of bad luck. His raw stuff makes him at least a 3rd in the order right now with his only limitation being inexperience.

    In light of that, throwing together a contingent of Baek, Woods, Curceta, or whathaveyou as the 5th starter for next season wouldn’t bust my balls. Finding pitchers who are at least of major league quality capable of starting a ballgame as a cheap option back at the end of the rotation is easy as hell.

  45. dnc on September 2nd, 2006 10:31 pm

    Felix is nothing resembling a 5th starter.

    Washburn is something of one, I’ll give you that.

    I agree we need TOR’s (DM and someone else). But there’s no way we’re acquiring three top of the line pitchers. Baek is cheap, at least, and if he falters there are other interior options. I’d rather use the money to make a legitimate run at two legitimate arms, instead of signing three mediocre guys.

  46. colm on September 3rd, 2006 12:04 am

    Everyone in baseball is looking for a legit number one starter all the time. Most teams just don’t have one. Felix will probably be our best pitcher next year. He’ll also probably pitch better than any one of the big (HUGE) ticket free agents to be.

    Honestly, do you think any of last years massively expensive pitcher acquisitions (and I’m thinking Millwood, Burnett and Beckett here) has been better than this year than our “flawed” “immature” King?

  47. John D. on September 3rd, 2006 12:58 am

    BAEK’S LAST START (See # 90) – Here’s his line from his last start:

    Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
    C Baek (W, 1-0) 5.2 2 3 2 5 4 2 107-69 4.22

    IIRC, the main gripe was that Baek threw more than 100 pitches, and didn’t “even” go six innings. (One out short of a “quality start,” BTW.)
    [If I had a pitcher that could hold the opposition to 2 ER in 5 innings, but had to leave the game because he’d thrown more than 100 pitches, I think I could find someone to pitch the other four innings.]

  48. mntr on September 3rd, 2006 2:59 am

    Howell did ok. I was sorry to see the Royals trade him. From what I saw, he had no trouble throwing strikes without getting hammered. If he’d stopped nibbling, he’d have stayed on the Royals roster.

  49. eponymous coward on September 3rd, 2006 7:50 am

    Um, Jarrod Washburn’s career record is 83-69, with a career ERA of 4, and he has years where he’s won 18 games, and posted ERAs of 3.15 and 3.20- not that that represents his consistent level of performance, but he HAS done reasonably well when supported by a good defense. That’s only a 5th starter on the 1971 Orioles (4 starters winning 20).

    Washburn is fine as a mid-rotation guy (he’s overpaid, but that’s water under the bridge), and if Felix pitches anything like his talent and peripherals say he should, we have in 2007:

    vacant TOR spot
    vacant midrotation spot
    vacant end rotation spot

    The Mariners and the A’s have both won 90+ with John freakin’ Halama in their rotation at various points, whose picture is in the dictionary under “replacement level”, so I can live with a mixture of Baek/Cruceta/Feierabend/whoever there. The reality is we need 2 SP’s- one really good, one OK/better than replacement level but not a superstar, and we’ll be fine to contend for the playoffs, with an offense with no real holes, a good defense and a good bullpen. Life’s looking up for 2007.

  50. Oly Rainiers Fan on September 3rd, 2006 8:35 am

    From today’s TNT:

    Three players, outfielders Adam Jones and T.J. Bohn and utility player Greg Dobbs, will return to the Mariners, but five others will be called to the majors for the first time.

    That group will include Rainiers pitchers Francisco Cruceta and Cesar Jimenez and Tacoma infielder Oswaldo Navarro. From Double-A San Antonio, the Mariners will call up pitchers Travis Chick and Ryan Feierabend.

    Looks like you’ll get a chance to see Cruceta and Feierabend, though probably not both in the rotation. And it always sort of cracks me up that the September callups are portrayed as a chance to see the young kids and how they do against major league competition. Of course, the only real major league competition they see is against those teams who are still vying for (and haven’t yet locked up) a playoff spot. For the rest of the teams they’ll face, they’ll either be resting their regular players, or auditioning their own youngsters. But, I guess it’s still allegedly ‘the best of’ their youngsters. (Can’t quite figure Oswaldo Navarro in that mix. Though I know his plate discipline reeks, Jon Nelson’s been tearing it up the last few weeks and I would have thought he’d get the nod over Navarro, if they were just going to randomly choose someone else from Tacoma’s roster….)

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