October 18th’s thrilling playoff baseball

DMZ · October 18, 2006 at 5:01 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Cardinals at Mets! Chris Carpenter faces… John Maine? Really? Oookay. 5:19ish.

I almost forgot this was going to be on… it only occurred to me that there might be something on when I took a break from book work just now and looked at a schedule page. Yes, that’s how into this NLCS I am.

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85 Responses to “October 18th’s thrilling playoff baseball”

  1. pablothegreat on October 18th, 2006 7:35 pm

    So, who is the best between these three well-known color guys: Tim McCarver, Joe Morgan, or Joe Theismann (Monday Night Football)?

    The reason I bring this up is that these guys might be the three most well-known color guys in all of sports, and I think McCarver might be the best. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think that McCarver is good at his job. But compared to Morgan and especially Theismann, he’s not that bad. So McCarver might be terrible, but I don’t think he’s as bad as everyone seems to think he is.

  2. LB on October 18th, 2006 7:36 pm

    I’m really glad Safeco doesn’t have “EV-ry BO-dy CLAP you HANDS!”

    On the other hand, Shea does have October baseball…

  3. IdahoInvader on October 18th, 2006 7:37 pm

    Ok, trying to play catch up with all of you…

    #8 & #30

    Does anyone remember this magical Mariner moment?

    Glenallen misjudged a routine fly in Tampa so horrifically that he trips and literally does a summersalt backwards with the ball almost hitting him in the head as it dropped behind him

    Never seen anything quite like it before or since

  4. JMB on October 18th, 2006 7:37 pm

    Yeah, you gotta make tradeoffs somewhere…

  5. JMB on October 18th, 2006 7:38 pm

    Horrible jump, horrible throw.

  6. IdahoInvader on October 18th, 2006 7:38 pm

    12

    I think a VERY YOUNG Mike Hampton got his first and probably one of his only saves that game.

  7. msb on October 18th, 2006 7:39 pm

    #53– you just reminded me of Butch Huskey’s face-plant

  8. 88fingerslukee on October 18th, 2006 7:43 pm

    So McCarver might be terrible, but I don’t think he’s as bad as everyone seems to think he is.

    Isn’t terrible bad enough?

    Seriously tho, Fox should figure it out. They don’t need to spend the big bucks on Tim when they could pick any jackass out of Single-A and he’d be just as good.

  9. msb on October 18th, 2006 7:49 pm

    speaking of things Fox, have I just missed it, or have they refrained so far this season from showing us the Fox television star casually attending a playoff game?

  10. Grizz on October 18th, 2006 7:49 pm

    In the early 1990s, I saw Randy Johnson play leftfield for an inning. Nothing was hit his way, which was unfortunate, because that would have been entertaining.

  11. Jim Thomsen on October 18th, 2006 7:53 pm

    Suddenly Scott Spiezio remembers that he’s … well … Scott Spiezio.

  12. 88fingerslukee on October 18th, 2006 7:58 pm

    speaking of things Fox, have I just missed it, or have they refrained so far this season from showing us the Fox television star casually attending a playoff game?

    I believe they were given shit for this after last year and so haven’t done it this year.

    That had to be the most egregious promo campaign ever.

  13. Todd S. on October 18th, 2006 7:59 pm

    Is anyone else bothered by the random strike zone tonight? I can’t even tell if Gary Darling knows what a strike is. I think it would be humorous if he just flipped a coin after every pitch and let it decide. I’m not even sure if it would be worse that way…

  14. msb on October 18th, 2006 8:00 pm

    #60– looks like both RJ and Nellie had their OF stints in 1993, when Mike Hampton had a 1-3 record with a 9.53 ERA– 17IP, and yes, 1 save.

  15. LB on October 18th, 2006 8:01 pm

    That had to be the most egregious promo campaign ever.

    No, that would be allowing Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore onto the field in St. Louis when the Red Sox won the World Series.

  16. 88fingerslukee on October 18th, 2006 8:02 pm

    Mike Hampton is a pitcher?

    I thought he was a 11 million dollar paperweight.

  17. 88fingerslukee on October 18th, 2006 8:02 pm

    No, that would be allowing Jimmy Fallon and Drew Barrymore onto the field in St. Louis when the Red Sox won the World Series.

    I stand corrected.

  18. JI on October 18th, 2006 8:07 pm

    Sooooooo…

    Maybe the Cards can ruin Wagner like they did Lidge…

    …maybe not.

  19. 88fingerslukee on October 18th, 2006 8:08 pm

    Can anybody explain to me why the NL is so freaking bad?

    When exactly did Scott Spiezio become a “valuable” player again?

  20. eponymous coward on October 18th, 2006 8:17 pm

    Spiezio’s not very good, but let’s see: Aurilia, Speizio, Cirillo and Olivo went from being completely terrible as Mariners to various shades of OK/not terrible.

    Maybe it’s the park, guys.

  21. msb on October 18th, 2006 8:19 pm

    or the NL.

    SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER
    July 16, 1993

    The bottom of the eighth inning provided most of the interest in this game. It took more time to sort out the M’s defensive alignment and revised lineup than it did for the third out to be recorded.

    There were two outs and none on when M’s first baseman Tino Martinez reached into the Red Sox dugout trying to catch Billy Hatcher’s popup. The catch wasn’t made and Hatcher singled to right-center field on Jeff Nelson’s next pitch.

    Piniella walked to the mound, stopping on the way to talk to plate umpire Durwood Merrill. The M’s manager, who didn’t have either Norm Charlton (suspension) or Chris Bosio (tomorrow’s starter) available, wanted to keep Nelson in the game. But not on the mound.

    The old National League double-switch with a twist was used.

    Dennis Powell came in to pitch to left-handed hitting Mike Greenwell and Nelson went to left field so he could pitch to Andre Dawson, the next scheduled hitter.

    “I’ve seen that play used in the National League but I’ve never done it before,” Piniella said. “I wanted to make sure I huddled with the umpires and placed the batters in the right position.”

    It didn’t matter that Nelson was out of position.

    “When Lou came out, I thought I was out of the ball game,” Nelson said. “Then he told me to go to left field. I mean, I shag fly balls during batting practice but that’s a lot different than a real game situation. I was nervous. I hadn’t played out there since high school, and that was in 1984.”

    Then Nelson huddled with Ken Griffey Jr., who was surprised to see Nelson take a defensive position.

    “I told him if there was anything hit into the gap, make sure to yell loud so I wouldn’t run into him,” Nelson said.

    Griffey’s response: “I told him if the ball was hit to him, make sure you throw it to the cutoff man and don’t give up any double or triple. I was hoping the ball would be hit to him and he’d make a great catch at the wall.”

  22. LB on October 18th, 2006 8:20 pm

    #69: Can anybody explain to me why the NL is so freaking bad?

    Possible explanation #1: Trades and FA talent has moved to the AL.

    Possible explanation #2: If you want to win the AL pennant, you have to build a team that can beat NY and their $200m+ payroll.

  23. msb on October 18th, 2006 8:24 pm

    and October 4, 1993

    Mariner manager Lou Piniella used 19-game winner Randy Johnson in left field in the bottom of the eighth inning yesterday. “He really wanted to play first, but I needed Dave Magadan to hit. He had a couple of gloves he wanted to try, so why not?” Piniella said. Added the 6-foot-10 Johnson: “I could have gone over the wall without jumping.”

  24. pablothegreat on October 19th, 2006 1:34 am

    Possible explanation #2: If you want to win the AL pennant, you have to build a team that can beat NY and their $200m+ payroll.

    I have trouble buying this, because I think that it implies that AL teams are trying harder than NL teams. I just don’t see this as the case. Every team is trying hard as hell to win.

  25. kg on October 19th, 2006 5:22 am

    Good news.
    Rene Rivera got DFA’d.

  26. Evan on October 19th, 2006 10:00 am

    Every team is trying hard as hell to win.

    They’re trying as hard as they think they need to. No one’s recklessly throwing away money or their future if they don’t think it’s necessary.

    In the AL, it might be necessary.

  27. Evan on October 19th, 2006 10:02 am

    Rene Rivera got DFA’d.

    Given Bavasi’s insane promotions, that might mean he’s calling up Clement next spring.

    And if we were going to DFA Rivera anyway, why did we expose Cruceta to waivers?

  28. msb on October 19th, 2006 10:27 am

    so where did you see this transaction announcement?

  29. Grizz on October 19th, 2006 11:09 am

    Evan: The M’s need to free up a number of 40-man roster spots, so the M’s were probably going to DFA both Cruceta and Rivera all along. There is some strategy as to when teams DFA players they may want to keep. Based on the number of waiver claims last week, it looks like the M’s tried to slip Cruceta through when a lot of other teams were doing the same thing. (It would have been Cruceta’s first assignment to the minors, so he would have had to accept it). Sometimes it works (Quiroz), sometimes it does not (Borchard). Unless catcher obsessed Jim Bowden claims him, Rivera should clear waivers, so it probably did not matter when they designated him.

    There will probably be a few more players dropped before the November deadline for setting 40-man rosters in advance of the Rule 5 Draft.

  30. Paul B on October 19th, 2006 11:20 am

    There’s a minor difference due to the number of teams in the league. The AL used to have more teams, since the Brewers moved, the NL does.

    On the plus side, more teams mean more draft picks in the annual draft. On the negative side for the All Star game, the league has to have at least one player from each team, so the League with more teams probably has a couple of paper weights on the roster.

    On the other hand, the AL had to have a Devil Ray and a Royal on the roster, so what do I know?

  31. msb on October 19th, 2006 11:24 am

    #69, 74– mlb.com has a piece today called “What has made the AL dominant?”

  32. eponymous coward on October 19th, 2006 11:25 am

    They’re trying as hard as they think they need to. No one’s recklessly throwing away money or their future if they don’t think it’s necessary.

    In the AL, it might be necessary.

    The Yankees, for all their cash, haven’t been any more dominant this millennium than the Braves have been recently (before this year).

    That’s because while they spend buttloads of cash, the players they spend it on aren’t worth that much cash. Basically, Steinbrenner’s using his checks to do an imitation of The Little Dutch Boy.

    You can pretty much take it to the bank that a core of over-30 players WILL slip, year to year. Individual players might improve, but the group will decline. That’s why the sum of the Yankees is less than the parts every year- because people see last year’s stats and go “OMG THEY ARE TEH AWESOME”, without accounting for the decline.

    I don’t think you should manage your franchise in fear of the Yankees. I suspect that next year, they’ll score a lot of runs but not as much as you think they would, because they’ll have injuries and declines to fight through, the pitching will be very “eh”, they’ll win 90-some games, and be just as likely to get knocked off in the playoffs or win out as any other 90-some win team.

  33. msb on October 19th, 2006 11:25 am

    ooh, and also on mlb.com, W. Oahu is beating Waikiki– Jeff Clement now batting!

  34. msb on October 19th, 2006 3:23 pm

    “The 2006 Seattle Mariners Play of the Year voting has arrived.
    Here’s your chance to select the top Seattle Mariners play from the 2006 season. The winning Seattle Mariners play will qualify for MLB.com’s Play of the Year Award voting — part of the 2006 This Year in Baseball Awards — coming in November.”

  35. kg on October 19th, 2006 3:30 pm

    78

    Not announced yet.
    A mariners trainer say that.

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