BP on the trade

DMZ · December 13, 2006 at 8:44 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Two quick posts on their blog. Nate posts the 2007 PECOTAs:

               EqBA  EqOBP EqSLG  EqA  Age ‘07 Salary
Jose Vidro     .283  .352  .406  .266  32  $7.5M
Chris Snelling .265  .356  .438  .283  25  $1.0M*

And says:

Younger, cheaper, and better. It’s hard to win a trade when you’re on the wrong side of each of those parameters.



25 Responses to “BP on the trade”

  1. tyruschen on December 13th, 2006 9:01 pm

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Second baseman Jose Vidro would be sent to the Seattle Mariners by the Washington Nationals for two prospects in a tentative trade that is pending physicals for all players involved, a person with knowledge of the deal told The Associated Press on Wednesday night.

    We can only hope somebody fail to pass the physical…

  2. Josh on December 13th, 2006 9:03 pm

    M’s – We’ll catch up with everyone else, in 2011 when Nintendo Prognosticator gives an in-depth look into the future of ballplayers. It will take grit, add veteran status, and divide by talent to give an overall rating. We look forward to a bright future with many Mariner championships.

  3. Stuck-In-Chicago on December 13th, 2006 9:04 pm

    Yuck. Unless this is the (unlikely) precursor to further wheeling and dealing, I am boycotting the M’s until Bavasi & Hargrove are gone: No MLB audio subscription, no games on XM, no TV, no games at Safeco when I visit Seattle, no merchandise, NADA.

  4. JI on December 13th, 2006 9:04 pm

    Why God, why?!?

    There’s no fucking way a serious basbeall man could possibly want Vidro as a DH, particularly when they have Snelling to fill the roll.

    This has to be the first domino in a Beltre/Lopez deal?

    Doesn’t it?

    Can’t it?

    Lopez for Penny?

    Beltre for Santana?

    Please God, help us!

  5. Rob on December 13th, 2006 9:08 pm

    It’s like Guillen for Vizquel all over again.

    -M’s get an older player
    -Trading away younger ones
    -Guillen broke out once he left
    -Snelling looks to do the same

    Omar didn’t pass the physical, so now we can only hope for the same here…

    I don’t believe in God and I just prayed to him to not let this go through. I know there are bigger fish to fry, but this one’s still important. If we all gather our thoughts together…

  6. hansk on December 13th, 2006 9:12 pm

    The only justification I can come up with is a trade such as:

    Beltre for Penny.

    If that was the case, Lopez can play 3b. Would people be happy in the end?

    Anyway, either Beltre, Broussard, Sexson or Lopez HAS to be traded for this to make sense….I suppose we could trade Vidro, but that doesn’t make too much sense…

  7. Coach on December 13th, 2006 9:16 pm

    In my view, this has the fingerprints of Dudley M. Hargrove all over it.

  8. David J. Corcoran I on December 13th, 2006 9:21 pm

    6: Yeah, but Vidro has told the world he’s excited to be our DH.

  9. Rob on December 13th, 2006 9:21 pm

    good work detective… oh gosh. now that you’re talking about it like that, i’m like, totally getting a clue right now. i better be careful as to not squirt clue goo everywhere.

  10. Tek Jansen on December 13th, 2006 9:24 pm

    Holy crap. I leave a computer monitor for five hours and this happens. A couple thoughts 1). I suspect the M’s will sign Floyd (or someone like him) to be the lefty to occupy the Roberto Petagine memorial bench spot that would have been Snelling’s 2. I agree with Coach, #7, and 3. I also suspect that Bavasi and the others are feeling heat from the public and are now desperately trying to show that they can WIN NOW. I don’t know how this move helps them win now, but the M’s FO (and it is more than simply Bavasi) believe that either this does help, or it gives the perception of helping, or possibly both. As a supporter of the M’s I will watch and want it to work out, but I already know that it won’t.

  11. Newby on December 13th, 2006 9:24 pm

    Why would a future trade be any better? We have seen the talent gap in the two trades already made, is there any logical reason to think that we are somehow going to make the next trade a good one?

  12. Walrus on December 13th, 2006 9:24 pm

    Not to depress you guys any more, but…If we trade away Lopez, you realize that Vidro will get hurt…and Willie the Ignitor will be getting 400 ABs this year and next….

  13. LB on December 13th, 2006 9:25 pm

    #8: Carl Everett is no doubt calling the man with tips on how to DH for the M’s.

  14. Rob on December 13th, 2006 9:25 pm

    so if anybody is willing to move past the stupidity of it and without looking at possible future moves…

    where will vidro fit into our current lineup? Is beltre moving out of the 2 hole? I mean Vidro is a “gap” hitter that can use Safeco’s “spacious alleys” just like jeff cirillo used to…


  15. David J. Corcoran I on December 13th, 2006 9:26 pm

    #13: Carl Everett is a good a hitter as Jose Vidro. Seeing this situation, I’d re-do the Everett contract in a heartbeat if I had to choose. This is just insane.

  16. jdsc55 on December 13th, 2006 9:27 pm

    #3 – I agree with you at this point. I will still follow the boxscores in the paper and highlights on tv, but I will not purchase any merchandise or watch/listen to any of the games for quite awhile…

  17. JI on December 13th, 2006 9:27 pm

    According to the Mariners website, Vidro will be the DH.

    Fucking Hell.

    He’s the worst DH this side of Carl Everett. Why don’t we bring Gary Pettis out of retirement and DH him.

  18. Tek Jansen on December 13th, 2006 9:28 pm

    Maybe Vidro will combine with Broussard to from “Bose Broudro.”

  19. CCW on December 13th, 2006 9:31 pm

    Oh my god. What the fuck. I am ill. If I hadn’t read it 5 different places, I’d suspect this was a joke. Jeezus.

  20. Jim Thomsen on December 13th, 2006 9:31 pm


    I’m reminded of the scene in “L.A. Confidential” where the ugly truth finally dawns on Russell Crowe:

    “Dudley ….”

  21. A Bag Of Beans! Wooo! on December 13th, 2006 9:33 pm

    KJR should hold a contest to try to come up with worse trades.

  22. Spencer B on December 13th, 2006 9:36 pm

    It’s not hard to understand why the team gave up on Snelling. He really scuffled for long portions of the season in Tacoma, and couldn’t really field CF like they’d like him to have. After bringing him up, he hit the snot out of the ball for about 10 games, then fell apart completely. I can only guess that the coaching staff was trying to make him something he wasn’t. I wish the kid well over there in DC, where he can learn at the feet of Nick Johnson, the hitter he’ll most resemble if everything goes right for him.

    Even if we traded Michael goddam Garciaparra for him, why in the hell are we paying $6M the next two years for Vidro? He’s not getting any better, and the 2005-6 version is obscenely overpaid at 7 HR’s per year.

    Two weeks ago, I was excited about the upcoming season, and thinking about a 20 ticket package. Now, I’m looking for a new team to root for, because this one is going to be a bottom dweller for freaking years.

  23. atait on December 13th, 2006 9:36 pm

    Maybe I’m wrong, but it find it hard to believe that Hargrove has the clout to make a deal like this happen. If I’m wrong, and the idiot actually gets that much input into transactions, then there is no hope for this franchise.

  24. Choo on December 13th, 2006 9:37 pm

    #14 – Infield gaps don’t count.

  25. Tek Jansen on December 13th, 2006 9:38 pm

    Grover did have a lot of input on the Everett signing, so maybe he needed a new lousy DH.