Community Projection: Jose Vidro
112 people chimed in, and the results are official – you guys couldn’t hate Jose Vidro any more if he kidnapped your children and sold them to be raised by Britney Spears.
Community Projection: .270/.333/.380, 447 AB, 22 2B, 0 3B, 9 HR, 40 BB, 2 HBP, 51 K
High: .292/.370/.443
Low: .223/.278/.281 (a few were even worse than that but with low PA totals)
Dave: .275/.353/.426
I’m apparently a Vidro optimist, relative to readers of USSM and Lookout Landing, anyways. Of course, I’m projecting a .790 OPS from an aging, overpaid DH, so I don’t think optimist is the right term here. I just don’t think he’ll suck quite as badly as you guys think he’ll suck.
I do wonder if the projection would be as negative if the Mariners had traded Rene Rivera instead of Chris Snelling in the deal. Yes, it was a horrible trade, and no, there’s no defending the transaction, but I do think that perhaps this is more of an angry projection than a consensus of how we actually expect Vidro to hit. He’s not a great hitter by any means, but he’s probably not the .700 OPS scrub that the projection has him pegged for.
His acquisition is already the worst transaction the team has made during Bavasi’s tenure. If he hits anything close to the community projection, it might go down as the worst trade in team history.
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Vidro’s top PECOTA comparables are essentially Tony Fernandez and a bunch of guys who quickly declined from good to mildly useful (or worse) as they entered their mid-30s (Johnny Ray, Tommy Herr, Jeff Cirillo, Mark Loretta).
Why did Johnny Ray absolutely fall off the map so suddenly? Did he get hurt?
I guess I didn’t read long enough….Does that say worst trade in team history? Come on that is unwriteable, giving away a 4th outfielder cannot be the teams worst trade ever. How about Dave Hollins for David Ortiz….That one was a little worse.
There’s a couple parts to that. It doesn’t say it’s the worst trade right now
Ignoring, for a second, your omission of Fruto and your low opinion of Snelling, the team gave up two prospects to take on a massive salary. Dave’s comment was that if Vidro indeed hits to the community projection, it might go down as the worst in team history.
Without knowing the futures of Fruto/Snelling, we obviously can’t know now, but Vidro’s projection if he hits that badly will be arguablly the worst payout the team’s ever made, and trading away anything to get that contract will indeed put it up for consideration as the worst trade. If the two players we gave up become something, that’s even worse.