Game 2, Athletics at Mariners

DMZ · April 3, 2007 at 5:31 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Joe Blanton versus Jarrod “The Leader” Washburn. 7:05, KSTW.

Our first Felix Day a rousing success, this is where the season’s long slog starts: the rest of the rotation. I was listening to a spring training report where Peter Gammons talked about the Mariners and could not name a pitcher past Washburn. When Gammons can’t remember who your 3-5 guys are off the top of his head, that’s trouble.

This is why we play the games, though. The Mariners hope that they’re going to get great performances that most reasonable analyst think aren’t going to happen, but we don’t know if Horacio Ramirez will win 20 games pitching in Safeco until he does, or doesn’t. Washburn could be this season’s surprise ace — more unlikely candidates have done better in baseball’s history.

I love Opening Day in part because of that feeling, being able to pull the wool over my own eyes a little and not think at all about what the standings will be like after the last game ends. Knowing that the season is long, and winding, and even if I could nail the win total, there’s no way any prediction about how the experience will be could approach accuracy.

More than anything, I want the Mariners to get into and win in the playoffs. I want to see a championship baseball team. Right now, they’re in first place. They could go wire to wire, it’s happened before.

A’s field
C Kendall
LF Stewart
CF Bradley
DH Piazza
3B Chavez
1B Swisher
RF Kielty
SS Crosby
2B Ellis

M’s go
CF Ichiro!
3B Beltre
DH Vidro
LF Ibanez
1B Sexson
RF Guillen
C Johjima
SS Betancourt
2B Lopez

Comments

272 Responses to “Game 2, Athletics at Mariners”

  1. bigred on April 3rd, 2007 5:34 pm

    That’s what I’m talking about D. We’re going wire to wire. M’s are going to be div. champs in ’07 baby. Yeah!

  2. Dan W on April 3rd, 2007 5:46 pm

    Right on Derek. Keep those positive vibes coming.

    It was great to meet you briefly at the Saloon yesterday. I hope you’re feeling better. Certainly watching Felix deal must have been an effective tonic.

    I hope the crowd has a little more energy tonight. Last night was close to a full house and there was a little buzz, but it’s almost like everyone’s waiting for something bad to happen. I guess it will take more than one win to build back confidence.

    I’m off to watch the hated Halos of Orange County battle the slightly less hated Rangers. I will be watching the scoreboard too. Go Mariners!

  3. Go Manures! on April 3rd, 2007 5:46 pm

    Well put. I am sure that at some point, reality will set in(hell, maybe tonight). Right now I just want to enjoy the afterglow of the game last yesterday and worry about the rest of the season when we have to start worrying about it.

  4. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 5:49 pm

    For all we know the M’s will run wire to wire, there have been suprise teams before. Hell Washedup has to have some good games. Here’s to the M’s making it 2-0.

  5. bmanuw on April 3rd, 2007 5:49 pm

    Refuse to Lose, Viva la Mojo, SODO Mojo, YOu gotta love these guys!! Anyone pumped up yet?!! LOL

  6. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 5:51 pm

    I love the optimism. Go M’s!

  7. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 5:52 pm

    Let’s tie our ’06 win total vs. the A’s tonight.

  8. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 5:53 pm

    Blanton is going down.

  9. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 5:55 pm

    And break it with a sweep on Wednesday.

  10. drjeff on April 3rd, 2007 6:00 pm

    Is there a major sport with more reason for everyone to be optimistic at the beginning of the season? There are so many little “maybes” in baseball… a couple of pitchers catching fire and having career years at the same time, a hitter or two coming into their prime at the right time, a division rival succumbing to a series of injuries… there just seems to be a better chance for strange events and happenstance in baseball than in many other sports.

  11. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:00 pm

    The M’s are going to take this down. I’m excited.

  12. corco16446 on April 3rd, 2007 6:04 pm

    The M’s are finally going to take down Blanton! And it’s on local TV! I’m really excited!

  13. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 6:04 pm

    Also, unlike in other sports any team who can make the playoffs, has a real chance to win it all. We won all of five fewer games as the World Champion Cardinals last year.

  14. beckya57 on April 3rd, 2007 6:05 pm

    It’s true that the M’s could be competitive, but that says more about the weakness of the division than the strength of the M’s. This just isn’t a very impressive team. And we don’t know if Hernandez’ arm can hold up over a full season as the #1 starter.

  15. DMZ on April 3rd, 2007 6:08 pm

    Oh come on, you’re missing the point.

  16. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:08 pm

    And the West isn’t exactly the strongest division in the book. There’s reason for hope.

  17. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 6:10 pm

    I want to be optimistic now. There is likely to be plenty of reasons to be pesimistic later.

  18. bmanuw on April 3rd, 2007 6:12 pm

    No Hitter for Washburn tonight.. Ok thats a long shot but it hasnt happened since Bosio

  19. corco16447 on April 3rd, 2007 6:13 pm

    The west isn’t exactly strong, either. We have a legit chance. Believe it.

  20. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 6:13 pm

    okay negitive nancy

  21. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 6:15 pm

    All we need is a playoff spot, and we could possibly be the Cardinals of 07.

  22. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:22 pm

    If Mike Hargrove g uides us to the World Series, I propose a contract extension.

  23. Derek (not DMZ, but nearly as awesome) on April 3rd, 2007 6:22 pm

    They could go wire to wire, it’s happened before.

    It was a lot more fun when the didn’t though (’95).

  24. bmanuw on April 3rd, 2007 6:22 pm

    Lets recapture some of the magic from ’95 with our roel players. Bring back Strange,Wolcott,Coleman,Cora,Amiral

  25. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:23 pm

    What a shocking lineup!

  26. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:27 pm

    Kielty in RF? I didn’t realize that platoon was still going down. Especially after his non-existent spring.

  27. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:28 pm

    20: Don’t forget Ron Villone!

  28. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:33 pm

    Oh Golly. J-Rod the Washburninator is going to guide us the the WS, where Weaver will take over.

  29. David* on April 3rd, 2007 6:44 pm

    Ah! Evil Rizzs sighting!!!

  30. firenintendo on April 3rd, 2007 6:44 pm

    Anybody figure out what a “FUNK BLAST” is yet?

  31. louder on April 3rd, 2007 6:46 pm

    [Rizzs]

  32. MKT on April 3rd, 2007 6:53 pm

    Is there a major sport with more reason for everyone to be optimistic at the beginning of the season?
    [...]
    there just seems to be a better chance for strange events and happenstance in baseball than in many other sports.

    That sounds plausible, hard to quantify though. There’s the Amazin’ Mets, the 1995 Mariners, the 2006 Tigers, plenty of surprises in baseball.

    But the NBA has had surprise teams too; for delighful shock value the 1978 Sonics make the 1995 Mariners look like ho-hums (from a fractious disorganized prior season, to a 5-17 start, to a 42-18 finish and all the way to Game 7 of the NBA Finals). The 2005 Sonics also won a ton more games than anyone expected and took the Spurs to 6 games in the second round of the playoffs. In recent years though the NBA Finalists have been easily foreseen among 3-4 western and 3-4 eastern teams.

    I have a vague impression that the Super Bowl tends not to feature teams that are big surprises but I don’t follow the NFL closely enough to know for sure. The Seahawks were probably a little bit surprising, but not nearly so much as the 1978 Sonics were in the Finals, or as surprising as just about any Mariners team would be in the World Series, except maybe for some of those strong late 1990s or early 2000s teams.

    I suppose one way to quantify this would be to use information theory: find the pre-season Vegas odds and calculate the information entropy (sum of p * log(p) for each team’s probability p of winning). Except that I don’t think Vegas odds’ probabilities sum to 1; Las Vegas follows economic laws, not the law of probability. Also a normalization would be needed to account for the number of teams in a league; it’s easier to predict the winner of a league with only a few teams in it.

    –MKT

  33. Goose on April 3rd, 2007 6:53 pm

    So it’s a good thing we didn’t pickup Brad Lincoln in last years draft.

    He’s apparently having elbow surgery and will miss all of 2007.

  34. David* on April 3rd, 2007 6:55 pm

    25:

    Funk: a strong smell; stench.
    Blast: a sudden and violent gust of wind.

    So it’s a fart.

  35. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 6:55 pm

    Morrison has been demoted clear to CW11 duty? Wow.

  36. Daniel Carroll on April 3rd, 2007 6:56 pm

    “Funk Blast” was the name of the old “ride” they had at the EMP. I’m pretty sure they took it out in order to put in the Sci-fi museum.

  37. joser on April 3rd, 2007 7:00 pm

    Almost every team in the NHL gets into the playoffs, though I don’t know how many longshots actually end up winning the Stanley Cup.

  38. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:06 pm

    If Felix becomes Kevin brown, I’ll be content.

  39. joser on April 3rd, 2007 7:08 pm

    Yeah Funk Blast the Experience is long gone. But we can still imagine Richie with hair like this. And if it means more dingers, play on.

  40. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:09 pm

    Joe Jih Ma not Joe Jee Ma

  41. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 7:13 pm

    So, last year, MLB.tv inserted a 60 second loop of a Tom Petty music video instead of commercials, which, as you can imagine, got old after about 12 of those 60 seconds. You have no idea how happy I was to get real, actual commercials yesterday, with no Tom Petty anywhere to be seen.

    Apparently, the people at MLB.tv have no soul, because today, we just met the ’07 version of the Tom Petty music video – a baseball bouncing off the sides of the screen in Pong-like fashion, complete with amazingly annoying 1982 sound effects.

    There’s no way I can listen to that thing 60 times a game. If I’m not able to get Extra Innings, I’m organizing some kind of campaign to at least mute that thing. Holy hell is it annoying.

  42. morisseau on April 3rd, 2007 7:14 pm

    the stadium looks EMPTY

  43. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:14 pm

    prove me right jarrod. i have faith

  44. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:17 pm

    It’s not Opening Day anymore :(

  45. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:23 pm

    Felix > Washburn

  46. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 7:23 pm

    Washedup got out of it, I was scared for a moment.

  47. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:24 pm

    wow…we have quite the talent drop-off from our #1 to #2 starter..Felix to Washburn…its like once every 5th game we actually get a major league starter :)

  48. louder on April 3rd, 2007 7:24 pm

    Not sure if I agree with this “Washburn will be a clubhouse leader” stuff. How can a pitcher whose not even a .500 winner be a leader? Don’t see it happening.

  49. BrianV on April 3rd, 2007 7:24 pm

    MLB.TV MARKET SURVEY

    “Because of regional advertising agreements, we cannot show the commercials for the local feed on MLB.tv. What would you, as a loyal viewer, like to see in its place?”

    “Well, I really hate Tom Petty, so don’t do that any more. I kind of like hearing the announcers when they think they’re off the air, but they say dirty words sometimes and my children are fargile.”

    “So what would you like?”

    “You know what I’ve always thought would make the Major League Baseball experience better?”

    “No, please tell us.”

    “A game of pong with a baseball, only with only one player so it’s not really pong, but just a baseball bouncing around the screen making blip sounds.”

    “Done.”

  50. JI on April 3rd, 2007 7:24 pm

    I’m organizing some kind of campaign to at least mute that thing. Holy hell is it annoying.

    My MLBtv has no sound. Period. It uses a codec I can’t and that I don’t have. Three hours with the tech support guy didn’t help either.

  51. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:24 pm

    that 86 mph fastball that he was showcasing is scary…he’s gonna get worked

  52. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 7:25 pm

    So according to the probable pitchers, we’re not skipping the 5th starter slot. The good news is that Felix will get an extra day’s rest. The bad news is that it means one more day without him. The great news is that this means he’ll be pitching on the Sunday KC game and I’m probably going to that.

  53. BrianV on April 3rd, 2007 7:26 pm

    Dammit, Dave beated me. Shows me for gettig a drink before hitting submit.

  54. Jared on April 3rd, 2007 7:26 pm

    Joe Blanton is so fat he could be our DH

  55. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:28 pm

    if there is a ball down the line and the umpire misses the call they should make Vidro and Blanton run from homeplate to 1st…winner gets the call

  56. hcoguy on April 3rd, 2007 7:28 pm

    39. Me too. I have no problems with sound on anything else. I have to grab the url and stick it in media player to get sound. Except I can’t do it when that Right Guard commercial is on.

  57. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:28 pm

    Nah. He’d take 3 pitches and strike out as often as Vidro swings at the first pitch and grounds out.

  58. Tek Jansen on April 3rd, 2007 7:29 pm

    How is it that every other team makes Blanton look like the spherical schmo that he is, yet the M’s make him look like all-star?

  59. jdsc55 on April 3rd, 2007 7:29 pm

    Woohoo….. an 11 pitch inning for Blanton!!!

  60. Slica on April 3rd, 2007 7:29 pm

    I bet he could still out run Vidro…

  61. louder on April 3rd, 2007 7:30 pm

    Hey, on DTV, they’re blacking it out on MLBtv. Watching it on poor reception on ch. 11.

  62. JI on April 3rd, 2007 7:31 pm

    Me too. I have no problems with sound on anything else. I have to grab the url and stick it in media player to get sound. Except I can’t do it when that Right Guard commercial is on.

    No dice for me.

  63. Tek Jansen on April 3rd, 2007 7:34 pm

    Does White make his M’s and major league debut tonight? What about Morrow? I doubt that Washburn makes it much over 5 innings, if that. He might not make it out of this inning.

  64. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 7:35 pm

    This throwing-the-ball-outside-the-strike-zone thing that Washburn’s doing probably insn’t going to be good against these patient A’s.

  65. planB on April 3rd, 2007 7:35 pm

    Any Comcast customers in the Seattle area know anything about the “all games in HD” thing? It doesn’t appear to be true today (KSTW 11 and KSTWDT 111 are both SD)… I get the impression it’s only for FSN-broadcast games… true? 664 is showing The Sound and the Fury…

  66. Troy J on April 3rd, 2007 7:36 pm

    this is painful to watch.

  67. David* on April 3rd, 2007 7:36 pm

    Time for some hot double-play twins action.

  68. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:37 pm

    We were going to have to score a run to win anyway. Now we’ll have to score a run to tie.

  69. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 7:38 pm

    Two errors on that foul.

  70. bigred on April 3rd, 2007 7:39 pm

    Damn there goes the season shutout.

  71. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:40 pm

    that was an ugly run down..but effective i suppose…Yeah..Washburn u stink!

  72. David* on April 3rd, 2007 7:40 pm

    Aggressive baserunning gone wrong.

  73. argh on April 3rd, 2007 7:40 pm

    I don’t know about the HD thing — I posted a news release purportedly announcing all HD home game broadcasts by FSN on 664 a few weeks ago but obviously it ain’t happening. Hoax or corporate shenanigans, I don’t know.

  74. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 7:41 pm

    57: Yeah, I dunno either… Ch111 looks different, but it’s certianly not HD. Too bad, because last night’s game looked awesome.

  75. louder on April 3rd, 2007 7:42 pm

    Lucked out on the pick-off. I wonder what the +/- for Washburn’s inning is tonight? Don’t think he’ll make it out of the fourth. Maybe it’s going to be Morrow’s night tonight.

  76. JI on April 3rd, 2007 7:42 pm

    Any Comcast customers in the Seattle area know anything about the “all games in HD” thing? It doesn’t appear to be true today (KSTW 11 and KSTWDT 111 are both SD)… I get the impression it’s only for FSN-broadcast games… true? 664 is showing The Sound and the Fury…

    Same here. I’m not surprised that they’d misrepresent that.

  77. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:43 pm

    thank goodness we have a great field crew to hook us up with some great bounces!

  78. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:44 pm

    I wonder if they are cheating?

  79. joser on April 3rd, 2007 7:44 pm

    Crosbyball continues. And his fielding freakiness is now infecting others. I need to go check out AthleticsNation — they’ll be going ballistic…

  80. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 7:44 pm

    Boop, beep, boop, bop….

  81. David* on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    FUNK BLAST #2!

  82. joser on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    Play that funky music, white boy!

  83. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    FUNK BLAST

  84. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    Yeah!!!!

  85. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    Pure power..woooooo

  86. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 7:45 pm

    BOOM!

  87. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:47 pm

    The M’s can eat Joe Blanton for breakfast.

  88. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 7:50 pm

    My favorite part of the bouncing ball is how the MLB.TV logo lights up when it bounces off of it.

  89. BrianV on April 3rd, 2007 7:51 pm

    There is no favorite part of the bouncing ball. That’s incredibly annoying.

  90. Tek Jansen on April 3rd, 2007 7:52 pm

    Hey, a batter retired on a single pitch.

  91. DanO on April 3rd, 2007 7:52 pm

    66, 69–Come on, it’s neither a hoax nor shennanigans. From what I understand, all of the FSN home games will be in HD. This game isn’t on FSN, it’s on KTSW. So, no HD. The great majority of games are on FSN, and will be in HD. Me, I’m thrilled that they’re broadcasting so many in HD, and can survive the occasional SD KTSW game. If it’s a big deal to you, I think you should be counting your blessings that you don’t have more important thnings to worry about.

    Back to the game: FUNK BLAST! Richie’s on pace for 162 HRs and about 500 RBI!

  92. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 7:53 pm

    My favorite part is when the game comes back on.

  93. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 7:54 pm

    ah, come on, you know you love it.

  94. louder on April 3rd, 2007 7:55 pm

    Whoa! Second game in a row the M’s get the lead, then hold the opposition to no runs the next inning. What’s going on here, some real baseball?

  95. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 7:56 pm

    Huh? The Mariners scored on Blanton? Who do they think they are? The Padres?

  96. DMZ on April 3rd, 2007 7:57 pm

    Here’s what I’ve been doing while watching the last three innings: K-Rod cheating in yesterday’s game. Oh yeah.

  97. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 7:58 pm

    Dude. DMZ. Your’e going to destroy your bandwidth.

  98. louder on April 3rd, 2007 7:59 pm

    Karnac makes this prediction for the M’s fourth: Vidro grounds out to second.

  99. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:00 pm

    81: most of the web articles say “all home games will be broadcast in HD on FSN” (google “mariners comcast hd” or etc) or an extremely similar variant, which is – at best – misleading… but I suppose that isn’t Comcast’s fault. Found this:

    SEATTLE, March 21 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — Comcast (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) and FSN Northwest today announced that all of FSN’s Seattle Mariners home telecasts and six road games will be available to Comcast customers in super clear high definition format (HDTV), beginning with the Mariners home opener April 2nd…

  100. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:02 pm

    Don’t try to write MLB.tv a complaint letter through their contact page – they have a 500 character limit. 500 characters is 100 words, tops. Good luck putting an eloquent objection together in 100 words.

    Guess I’ll be making a phone call in the morning.

  101. Wells on April 3rd, 2007 8:07 pm

    So what’s the deal? Are we phasing out Niehaus? Sims is OK but I miss Dave already.

  102. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:07 pm

    a double play. too bad we didn’t need it. :(

  103. darrylzero on April 3rd, 2007 8:07 pm

    DMZ, just read your about K-Rod, and I’m not quite clear on what exactly the evidence is. Is it just because of all the touching his hat he does? Or are you making a correlation between velocity and touching his hat? Couldn’t he just be incredibly superstitious or something and have a ritual?

  104. louder on April 3rd, 2007 8:08 pm

    Props to Washburn, he’s gotten it together the past two innings….

  105. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:08 pm

    I hope we’re not phasing out Niehaus. He just said he wants 6000 games.

  106. DMZ on April 3rd, 2007 8:08 pm

    It’s hard to show with just the stills, but K-Rod repeatedly reaches up to his cap brim, rubs his thumb under it, and then throws an interesting pitch. Watching the video it’s a little shocking how blatant it is.

  107. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:08 pm

    We’re sacrificing a little Dave for a complete lack of Rick on the TV side. I think Dave was staying on for another full inning the past few seasons, but that’s it. I’m willing to lose that inning of Dave so long as I never have to hear Rick say a word on the broadcast.

  108. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:09 pm

    If you watch the video, you’ll see him repeatedly rubbing his thumb under the bill of his cap. He’s not adjusting the cap, not moving it around – he’s holding onto it while his thumb grabs moisture/foreign substance from the bill.

    He might as well be holding a nail file.

  109. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:10 pm

    I wonder if this is the first this has happened? And if so, why would he suddenly start?

  110. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:10 pm

    Jose Vidro hits a grounder up the middle. Crosby takes a few steps, shuffles his feet, throws sidearm… and Vidro’s out by 842 feet. Nice wheels, Turbo.

  111. jdsc55 on April 3rd, 2007 8:11 pm

    98: Prediction was pretty damn close with Vidro going to the other side of the infield

  112. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:12 pm

    101: I love Dave Neihaus, but I’m frankly surprised he’s still announcing at all. He’s been slipping for years… most notably calling players by the wrong name, but also getting the count wrong and other erroneous calls…

  113. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:12 pm

    He hits to all fields. first ground out down the first base line, now he’s down the third. Now if he could get it to the outfield, that’d be really cool.

  114. louder on April 3rd, 2007 8:14 pm

    Jeesh, what in the world does Bavasi see in Vidro? He brings nothing to this team.

  115. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:15 pm

    107…if that ball had gotten through I’m pretty sure Milton had a chance to gun him down at 1st

  116. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:16 pm

    Jeesh, what in the world does Bavasi see in Vidro? He brings nothing to this team.

    I give it a month before Vidro starts seeing a few occasional starts versus righties.

  117. David* on April 3rd, 2007 8:17 pm

    Dave, that’s impossible. It’s only 90 feet to first base. Surprised you didn’t know that.

  118. Wells on April 3rd, 2007 8:18 pm

    Is the quality of MLB.tv ‘premium’ that much more impressive?

  119. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:18 pm

    Dave, plan on a long “on hold” time. I had to call to figure out how to watch on a MAC in early March, and it was about 20 minutes of waiting then. I’m guessing they’re much busier now…

  120. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:18 pm

    Uh… obviously I meant someone other than Vidro up there … say Broussard.

  121. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:19 pm

    Nice job by Washburn so far. 5 innings, 2 hits, 1 run… Even if he only goes 7, he’s done a nice job of settling down.

  122. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:19 pm

    David*…it was simply a decimal missing…he was out by 84.2 feet.

  123. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:19 pm

    Dave Sims says “off the fist” (right?) a lot; I’ve never heard that phrase before, and couldn’t find any reference to it other than a player quoted “You get a pitch off the fist and your hands are ringing” in a newspaper article two years ago. Can anyone explain?

  124. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:20 pm

    No. I can’t tell the difference, honestly. Premium does come with some extra nifty stuff (condensed games rock, for instance), but if you’re going to pay the extra $5/month hoping for better quality video, keep your money.

  125. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:20 pm

    The player gets jammed and hits the ball with the thin part of the bat just above where the hands are.

  126. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:21 pm

    Nice job by Washburn so far. 5 innings, 2 hits, 1 run… Even if he only goes 7, he’s done a nice job of settling down.

    Three walks, one strikeout. This is the opposite of a nice job. This is bad hitting.

  127. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:21 pm

    It’s about time Guillen gets a hit.

  128. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:22 pm

    Wow, a hit other than a weird infield single or a home run.

  129. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:22 pm

    Condensed games come with normal MLB TV also…

  130. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:22 pm

    Ok. Let me rephrase, then. Nice job by Washburn, not allowing very many runs or hits so far.

  131. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:23 pm

    Wow. The A’s defense is legitimately not so good.

  132. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:23 pm

    Wow was that an awful play in RF.

  133. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:23 pm

    The A’s need to go back to spring training and work on fielding.

  134. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:23 pm

    I know two games is an extremely small sample size, but the As defense has looked awful

  135. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:24 pm

    I don’t even know what to think about baseball anymore. There’s been a lot of sloppy play this series.

  136. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 8:25 pm

    Even on that play they looked bad, letting us replace the runner.

    Could someone tell the Ichiro Hit Meter person that Ichi got an infield hit yesterday? That 0 is annoying me.

    I guess it could be measuring something else but I doubt it.

  137. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:25 pm

    Also, I give it a month before Hargrove gets pissed at Lopez for doing a whole lot of nothing before he starts giving Willie some starts.

  138. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 8:27 pm

    Make that a 2 now please :)

  139. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:27 pm

    2 out hitting with RISP..wahoo

  140. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:27 pm

    Ichiro!!!

  141. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 8:27 pm

    *blink* The Mariners are hitting Blanton like he’s Joe Blanton. Did the equipment guy for the A’s forget to pack the Cy Young costume?

  142. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:30 pm

    Perhaps forgotten in there was Betancourt’s hustle getting to second on his comebacker. That was nice to see, and it lead to a run.

  143. Wells on April 3rd, 2007 8:31 pm

    *sigh* Looks like the optimistic fantasy draft of Beltre is a bust.

  144. louder on April 3rd, 2007 8:31 pm

    Nice… 2 out base hit to drive in the run. Nice. Wonder if Vidro will gorund out to first leading off next inning? 50/50 chance it happens.

  145. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 8:31 pm

    I’m not complaining about the A’s defense. Keep it up guys.

  146. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:32 pm

    It is so nice to see Ichiro when the camera cuts to center field.

  147. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:32 pm

    If Yuni didn’t get to second on that rundown, we probably wouldn’t have scored that run. Nice.

  148. jdsc55 on April 3rd, 2007 8:32 pm

    I’m guessing Washburn will finish this inning and call it a night…he will probably be over 100 pitches, maybe 110

  149. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:33 pm

    So, who is warming up?

  150. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:33 pm

    89 MPH belt high fastballs are generally a bad idea.

  151. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:33 pm

    Ichiro always looks like he’s about to fall over when he catches flys.

  152. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:34 pm

    Betancourt’s range helps make up for the fact that Ibanez runs like he has a Jose Vidro on his back.

  153. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:35 pm

    Mate-uh-oh warming up…

  154. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:35 pm

    Dude. Why are we warming up Mateo? Bring in Morrow.

  155. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:36 pm

    Why was Washburn so excited?

  156. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:36 pm

    Wonder if we’ll see Rhodes and Sasaki tonight? Oh wait, only one of those guys is still around.

  157. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:37 pm

    Its good to see some emotion outside of Felix on the mound, and Bloomquist running out to the batters box to ground out (but hustle)

  158. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:38 pm

    When I want to protect a two run lead, I turn to Julio Mateo.

    And then I cry.

  159. louder on April 3rd, 2007 8:38 pm

    Why was Washburn so excited?

    Probably because he knows he’s through for the night.

  160. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:39 pm

    Sure glad we got rid of the Soriano kid so Vidro could take the place of Everett!

  161. Dave on April 3rd, 2007 8:39 pm

    Vidro is now 1-7 with 6 ground balls and a strikeout. Fearsome.

  162. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:40 pm

    When I want to protect a two run lead, I turn to Julio Mateo.

    I read somewhere the other day that if Putz had to miss a few games because of his arm, Hargrove would include Mateo in a rotation of possible closers. It seems obvious to me that Hargrove would rather get paid to sit around his house than have to come to the ballpark every day.

  163. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:42 pm

    Remember opening day last year, when we were mad at Hargrove for not bringing Guardado in for the 9th? Boy, how things changed.

  164. SCL on April 3rd, 2007 8:42 pm

    #152 Actually we got rid of that Doyle kid for Vidro. But just as bad.

  165. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:43 pm

    Whooo boy, I’m not feeling so confident.

  166. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:44 pm

    101: lol
    153: how about Richie Sexson?

  167. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:44 pm

    Well, I was expecting at least a double by Swisher there … so I’ll take a single.

  168. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:45 pm

    Time for one of those Mateo Groundballsâ„¢

  169. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:45 pm

    er 101 should be 150

  170. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:45 pm

    Is Mateo more concerned with what is in his mouth, or with getting outs?

  171. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:45 pm

    156: yeah, im retarded…all the offseason runs together…all equally upsetting

  172. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 8:46 pm

    “Mateo could use a ground ball right here.” New guy really doesn’t know Mateo very well, does he?

  173. Suckerjones on April 3rd, 2007 8:47 pm

    Why am I wearing a rally cap with a two run lead? MATEO.

  174. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:47 pm

    Hargrove doesn’t seem to know Mateo very well, either.

  175. joesuperdad on April 3rd, 2007 8:47 pm

    164 — No, I’m sure he was schooled by Hargrove during the spring on these things.

  176. Troy J on April 3rd, 2007 8:48 pm

    mateo can’t even do groundballs right.

  177. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:48 pm

    Whoa Guillen!

  178. daimajin on April 3rd, 2007 8:49 pm

    UGH gameday stuck on Vidro

  179. Troy J on April 3rd, 2007 8:49 pm

    yeah, thats a cannon.

  180. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:49 pm

    Why isn’t Morrow pitching? If we’re going to carry him, we need to use him

  181. JI on April 3rd, 2007 8:50 pm

    Mateo blows.

  182. CSG on April 3rd, 2007 8:50 pm

    Damn you, Camel Face. Damn you to hell.

  183. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:50 pm

    New year; same Mateo

  184. Troy J on April 3rd, 2007 8:52 pm

    lol, hargrove looked like he was falling asleep while standing there.

  185. kentroyals5 on April 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

    Release Mateo..seriously..why does he have a spot on the team? Absolutely no reason to have a spot on any team but the Nationals

  186. CSG on April 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

    I’m expecting a Brandon Morrow sighting next inning…

  187. Troy J on April 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

    how on earth can a man be so freakin stupid to think that putting mateo in a close game is a good thing?

  188. okdan on April 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

    UGH.

  189. Suckerjones on April 3rd, 2007 8:53 pm

    Please, Julio, just freaking retire. You suck.

  190. JI on April 3rd, 2007 8:54 pm

    Did I mention that Mateo blows?

    I think I know *who* he blows too.

  191. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 8:54 pm

    Just release Mateo now. Save us all.

  192. billT on April 3rd, 2007 8:54 pm

    Why is Hargrove leaving him in at this point?

  193. planB on April 3rd, 2007 8:54 pm

    When Mike Blowers says that Jason Kendall “puts the ball in play more often than not”, is he referring to a statistic? If so, nice.

  194. DKCecil on April 3rd, 2007 8:54 pm

    Julio Mateo. Woo.

  195. lvmarinermike on April 3rd, 2007 8:57 pm

    I hate Mateo

  196. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 8:59 pm

    No more Blanton, and more pong: whew!

  197. louder on April 3rd, 2007 9:00 pm

    Man, Mateo was bad. Bring in Morrow and see what he can do.

  198. DKCecil on April 3rd, 2007 9:03 pm

    Oh no you did not just do that, Hargrove.

  199. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 9:03 pm

    I Love Crosby

  200. Paul B on April 3rd, 2007 9:05 pm

    Washburn = +.170 WPA
    Mateo = -.222 WPA

  201. Suckerjones on April 3rd, 2007 9:05 pm

    Is Hargrove that stupid? I’m a CPA who’s never played a day of baseball in his life (unless you count intermural softball) and even I can tell that Mateo isn’t a guy you want to bring into a close ballgame. There are a few relievers in my memory that scared me as much and one of them was named Heathcliff. The other was Rod Beck at the end of his career. I just like to think that people learn from history.

  202. DKCecil on April 3rd, 2007 9:07 pm

    Yuni!

  203. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 9:07 pm

    YUNI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  204. billT on April 3rd, 2007 9:07 pm

    Jesus … that was a shot!

  205. planB on April 3rd, 2007 9:07 pm

    See? We don’t need better pitchers. We need a bigger lead.

  206. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    You Better!

  207. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    :O

  208. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    Yuni!

  209. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    Yuni!

  210. daimajin on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    YU-BET!!!!

  211. Suckerjones on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    Youbet! Now please don’t let Mateo come back. You just did something good. Don’t screw it up.

  212. JI on April 3rd, 2007 9:08 pm

    Holy crap, we’re scoring runs!

  213. louder on April 3rd, 2007 9:09 pm

    Mateo could get the W, baseball, what a game.

  214. sad_loyal_fan on April 3rd, 2007 9:09 pm

    Mateo is just the latest to torment us. Remember Bobby Ayala
    and Sweet Lou’s love affair with Jose Paniagua?

    Yuni!

  215. robbbbbb on April 3rd, 2007 9:09 pm

    Yu Bet!

  216. Paul on April 3rd, 2007 9:10 pm

    There are a few relievers in my memory that scared me as much…

    Two words: Bobby Ayala

  217. DKCecil on April 3rd, 2007 9:10 pm

    My god…I’ve figured it out. Mateo’s master plan.

    He’s going to be a 20-game winner out of the bullpen. That fiend.

  218. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 9:12 pm

    Wow, Ichiro triple. That’s the Ichiro we’ve been waiting to see.

  219. noel on April 3rd, 2007 9:12 pm

    When did Kiko Calero start taking pitching lessons from Julio Mateo?

  220. David J. Corcoran I on April 3rd, 2007 9:12 pm

    This is what we couldn’t do last year is come back.

  221. Jar on April 3rd, 2007 9:14 pm

    Vidro = rally killer

  222. daimajin on April 3rd, 2007 9:14 pm

    I was hoping for a save from JJ for my fantasy team, but I wont complain …

  223. fishiam on April 3rd, 2007 9:15 pm

    [Rizzs]

  224. Daniel Carroll on April 3rd, 2007 9:15 pm

    Could it be that we actually have a reasonably exciting team this year?

  225. Paul B on April 3rd, 2007 9:15 pm

    That was a great inning. I love watching Ichiro run to third.

    Normally, I’d say that when a team has a weakness at DH, it would be good news, because it would be the easiest problem to fix. But Bavasi/Hargrove have shown themselves to be painfully unable to fix the problem.

  226. Red Apple on April 3rd, 2007 9:16 pm

    I hate Mateo

    Hating Mateo is like hating a gun. Hate the fool who uses the gun, instead. Then again, I wouldn’t compare Mateo to a gun. Maybe a mud-encrusted rock, covered with wriggling beetles and worms on the bottom.

    On a positive note, Ichiro got to 3rd on that standup triple in a New York minute. He’s one fast dude.

    Future quote:

    I hate Reitsma

  227. Jordan of Boise on April 3rd, 2007 9:21 pm

    When will get the Mariners Baseball My-oh-My commercial that has Jose Video trying to race, say, a glacier, or a sunset, to first base?

  228. billT on April 3rd, 2007 9:23 pm

    Could it be that we actually have a reasonably exciting team this year?

    Probably not. Go back and read quotes from the first week of games last year … and the year before that for that matter. You’ll see a lot of similar sentiments. It’s just the effect of a new season and the fact that the M’s are winning a game. It’ll fade, just as it has the last several seasons.

  229. noel on April 3rd, 2007 9:23 pm

    So is Mateo now the pitcher of record? – what an injustice.

    Washburn didn’t pitch great, but he didn’t pitch as poorly as Mateo.

  230. CSG on April 3rd, 2007 9:25 pm

    Reitsma looked pretty good

  231. Rick L on April 3rd, 2007 9:25 pm

    Washburn pitches a decent game. Then Mateo blows the lead. Mateo gets credit for the win. I know that’s how the game is scored, but I still think it sucks.’

  232. fishiam on April 3rd, 2007 9:27 pm

    Sims just noted … Morrow MLB debut looks to be about to happen.

  233. Rick L on April 3rd, 2007 9:27 pm

    I don’t know if anone has commented on this before or not, but do you think that Hargrove thought he could keep his job longer if he grew a Bavasi look-alike beard?

  234. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 9:28 pm

    216 – yeah, but this year (it’s looking like) we’re actually going to win a series against the A’s.

  235. DKCecil on April 3rd, 2007 9:28 pm

    I don’t know if anone has commented on this before or not, but do you think that Hargrove thought he could keep his job longer if he grew a Bavasi look-alike beard?

    I didn’t mention that part about it, but I like the beard. It makes him look very…homeless.

  236. Jordan of Boise on April 3rd, 2007 9:29 pm

    I think Hargrove is hoping that if he grows out that crappy goatee he can steal Sherril’s spot in the lineup, body snatcher style.

  237. louder on April 3rd, 2007 9:30 pm

    Morrow! This will be good to see.

  238. joser on April 3rd, 2007 9:30 pm

    Over on AN, they’re officially terrified of Sexson.

  239. fishiam on April 3rd, 2007 9:33 pm

    That was entertaining watching Morrow and Johjima talking to each other before starting pitching … seemed to be speaking easily to each other … wonder what they actually said?

  240. Rick L on April 3rd, 2007 9:35 pm

    Time for JJ

  241. zzyzx on April 3rd, 2007 9:36 pm

    Ok, to root for a double play here or to root for a rough inning (esp if we still win) followed by a demotion?

  242. Slica on April 3rd, 2007 9:37 pm

    Cant wait to see them send Morrow back down with his confidence shot after this inning, ala Clint Nageotte.

    Seriously though, im alarmed right now that the M’s didnt draw a walk. I hate having this cloud above me wondering how much better our lineup would be with Snelling at DH. Even on his legs, he can outrun Vidro.

  243. Goob on April 3rd, 2007 9:38 pm

    ESPN has Nathan notching his 9th save of the season. At this rate, he could seriously reach 500. I need to crack open the history books and look around, because I think that could be a record or something.

  244. colm on April 3rd, 2007 9:39 pm

    Can’t we have this kid as a starter? Please?

  245. apunetid on April 3rd, 2007 9:42 pm

    M’s win!!!

  246. Rick L on April 3rd, 2007 9:42 pm

    Oh me of little faith.

  247. louder on April 3rd, 2007 9:46 pm

    First time I’ve seen Morrow and this kid has a major league arm. No way you send him to the minors. He should be in the starting rotation by the All-Star break.

  248. Dave Clapper on April 3rd, 2007 9:50 pm

    2-0!!!!!!!!!

  249. PhilKenSebben on April 3rd, 2007 9:57 pm

    wow, Morrow has good velocity.

  250. David* on April 3rd, 2007 9:58 pm

    I’ll go ahead and write tomorrow’s sports headline:

    “Ms match 2006 season win total vs As in 2nd game of 2007.”

  251. Dylan on April 3rd, 2007 9:58 pm

    Hargrove with his goatee is a dead ringer for Dennis Hopper in one of his recent movies. I can’t remember the name because it looked horrifically bad, I just remember seeing the previews and Dennis Hopper had a beard. Anyone know?

  252. colm on April 3rd, 2007 10:00 pm

    scary relievers other than Mateo and legendary Bobby Ayala (off the top of my head)
    Jose Mesa; Paul Spoljaric; Heathcliff Slocumb; or best of all, John Mabry.

    Hmm, I appear to have tapped out in the year 2000; someone help me here.

  253. joser on April 3rd, 2007 10:01 pm

    He may have a major league arm, but does he have a major leauge head? Does he know what to do when the lineup turns over and the same batters see him for a second and third time? Does he even have the arm strength for that? Throwing one inning in relief is a very different proposition than 6 innings in a start. You don’t want to squander his talent.

  254. joser on April 3rd, 2007 10:04 pm

    Saw this over at AN:

    Check out Yahoo! Sports and their scoring summary!
    This is their actual stuff I lifted via “copy and paste”.
    Hilarious. They have the score as “3-1 Oakland” by the way:
    ===========================================
    Top 2nd: Oakland

    N. Swisher hit sacrifice fly to right, B. Kielty scored
    Bot 2nd: Seattle

    N. Swisher homered to deep right, R. Ibanez scored
    Bot 5th: Seattle

    N. Swisher doubled to right, J. Guillen scored
    N. Swisher singled to center, Y. Betancourt scored
    Top 6th: Oakland

    N. Swisher homered to deep left
    Nick is a force!

    And we thought Bloomquist could do it all. Swisherific.

  255. Jonathan on April 3rd, 2007 10:17 pm

    Here’s why watching baseball on TiVo is cool. Not only do you have pause, rewind, and slo-mo, but my favorite trick is pausing for about 20 minutes. This lets you fast-forward through 20 minutes of commercials, or something unpleasant, like say Julio Mateo pitching. And fast-forward has 3 settings: Annoyed, “Mateo’s pitching. meh.”; Angry, “He threw it where, now?!”; or Apoplectic, “MY EYES! MY EYES!”

  256. Boss! Boss! LaHair! LaHair! on April 3rd, 2007 10:21 pm

    Paniagua was pretty scary too. I just have bad memories of saying “oh no!” whenever he came into games. Kind of like Mateo.

  257. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 10:29 pm

    Marrow clearly was not ready, we should have him in the minors, with a possible send up later this season.

  258. beef on April 3rd, 2007 10:33 pm

    Marrow clearly was not ready, we should have him in the minors, with a possible send up later this season.

    bah. it’s his first major league appearance. it’s called nerves. nonetheless, 1H, no runs, is a solid major league debut.

  259. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 10:34 pm

    I would rather see him in Tacoma to develop him into a starter.

  260. msb on April 3rd, 2007 10:35 pm

    Vidro is now 1-7 with 6 ground balls and a strikeout. Fearsome.

    well, Turbo does bring us a whole new Rizzs Drinking Game– how many times will Rick call Vidro ‘professional’?

  261. msb on April 3rd, 2007 10:38 pm

    on KOMO, Glasgow just broached the notion that the official scorer be given the power to assign the win to the starting pitcher, rather than give it to a vulture like Mateo …

  262. davepaisley on April 3rd, 2007 10:42 pm

    And it’s BrAndon MOrrow, not BrEndan (thank you Dave frickin’ Sims) MArrow ( thank you other DZ)

    Honestly, Sims has all the potential to be just another Rizzs-esque cheerleader. If Blowers says ANYTHING at all, he’s there with a “yes, that’s right” or some other sycophantic reinforcement.

  263. davepaisley on April 3rd, 2007 10:47 pm

    vulch (verb)

    Applicable only to baseball pitchers. To enter a baseball game, surrender the lead by pitching poorly, then have your team score enough runs to take the lead, after which your team does not surrender the lead, thereby making you the winning pitcher in the game.

    Example: Julio Mateo totally vulched the win from Jarrod Washburn on Tuesday.

  264. LB on April 3rd, 2007 10:47 pm

    #250: Sims has the potential to be Seattle’s own “Hawk” Harrelson, minus the major leage experience and Nehru jacket.

    “He gone!”

  265. scraps on April 3rd, 2007 10:48 pm

    First time I’ve seen Morrow and this kid has a major league arm. No way you send him to the minors. He should be in the starting rotation by the All-Star break.

    HE HAS NEVER STARTED A GAME AS A PROFESSIONAL AT ANY LEVEL.

    Seriously. Do you think that doesn’t mean anything?

    If you watch minor league games, you’ll see plenty of kids with major league arms. There are usually good reasons they’re still in the minors.

    It’s possible that the Mariners know something about bringing along pitching talent that no other organization knows. Yeah.

  266. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 10:57 pm

    250: I will spell it right when he earns it.

  267. davepaisley on April 3rd, 2007 11:04 pm

    I’ll stop kicking your ass about it when YOU’VE earned it.

  268. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 11:09 pm

    OFair enough, but we were a bad pitch away from Putz having to bail the kid out.

  269. Not DZ the author but a different one on April 3rd, 2007 11:13 pm

    The kid has great potential, but I would rather see him as a starter in a year, then as a middle reliever now. And pitching an inning once or twice a week is not the way to do it.

  270. carcinogen on April 3rd, 2007 11:21 pm

    249: Nice use of “Turbo”…maybe we could tweak it a bit to “Turdro.” Altough, wait…that has a completely different connotation. I guess we’ll stick with Turbo.

  271. byronebyronian on April 4th, 2007 9:45 am

    #239 @ Dylan: Land Of The Dead.

  272. Wells on April 4th, 2007 8:30 pm

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