Nope, not today either

Dave · April 9, 2007 at 8:27 am · Filed Under Mariners 

Both games scheduled for today have been canceled as well. The M’s will now fly to Boston to try to begin their series against the Red Sox tomorrow. Since the M’s haven’t played since Wednesday, they can literally do whatever they want with their rotation. Knowing Hargrove, he’ll probably give Weaver the start tomorrow so that he doesn’t go several weeks between starts, then start the rotation back over with Felix going Wednesday (against Matsuzaka, on ESPN2).

Personally, I’d throw Felix tomorrow, which would then set him up to pitch against Minnesota when the road trip ends and then the final game of the Angels series in Los Angeles. If you save him for Wednesday, then he pitches in game two of the Minnesota series and the opening game of the series at Texas. I’d rather have Felix pitching in Los Angeles, against the free-swinging Angels, then against the Rangers in their bandbox of a ballpark. It’s still worth putting him in situations where he can succeed if you can, and the Mariners have a chance to do just that.


70 Responses to “Nope, not today either”

  1. feingarden on April 9th, 2007 12:41 pm

    Karen – Is the prospect of Matsuzaka going up against Felix being mentioned, or is it all Matsuzaka-centric hype? I’m curious whether Felix’s glow extends beyond the Pacific Northwest.

  2. thewyrm on April 9th, 2007 12:49 pm

    47. I forget exactly what it was in Celsius

    Considering we Americans couldn’t possibly care less about Celsius temperature numbers I wouldn’t worry about it.

  3. joser on April 9th, 2007 1:00 pm

    (-20) – 32 = -52 * 5 / 9 = -28.9F
    Or you could just ask google

    Not, as 51 says, anyone in the US actually cares. In Alberta that would barely be “cold” (you can only call it “chilly” until the moisture in your nostrils freezes as you inhale and melts as you exhale, which happens around -20C). They reserve all the really good terms for when it’s -40 plus a wind.

  4. joser on April 9th, 2007 1:22 pm

    BTW, some good pictures of the conditions here and here (a fan jumped onto the field during the game Friday and made a snow angel?)

  5. MickeyZ on April 9th, 2007 1:30 pm

    I would start Felix tomorrow too. Who cares if Weaver gets rusty? Why not maximize the number of starts Felix can make as long as you aren’t pitching him on short rest? Weaver is just killing time until The King is ready.

  6. DanO on April 9th, 2007 1:31 pm

    Give me a break. Lake Erie last caught on fire sometime in the late 1970s. Former Cleveland mayor and current presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich did a hell of a good job of cleaning up the city and forcing the feds to clean up the lake.

    Oh yeah, another reason to make fun of Cleveland–their idea of a home grown presidential candidate is Dennis Kucinich!

  7. windknot on April 9th, 2007 2:03 pm

    Looking at the schedule and assuming Grover doesn’t skip anyone in the rotation, wouldn’t Felix pitching on Wed mean that he’d be throwing against Minnesota in game 1 instead of game 2? Unless there’s something I’m completely missing, it looks like we have the third game at Boston and then the three game set against Texas at home, giving Felix four games (five days including the off day on the 16th) between this Wednesday’s game and next Tuesday’s game. Then he would be on schedule to pitch the final Angels game on the 22nd.

  8. Dave on April 9th, 2007 2:08 pm

    The M’s don’t skip their 5th starter on offdays.

  9. scraps on April 9th, 2007 2:16 pm

    I just assumed all the old Cleveland mockers had dropped dead by now. Who knew?

  10. windknot on April 9th, 2007 2:18 pm

    Sorry, didn’t mean to imply that they’d skip Weaver. Here’s what I meant to point out:

    thu@bos-starter 2 (Washburn)
    frivstex-starter 3 (Batista)
    satvstex-starter 4 (Ramirez)
    sunvstex-starter 5 (Weaver)

  11. Karen on April 9th, 2007 2:30 pm

    feingarden asked: Karen is the prospect of Matsuzaka going up against Felix being mentioned, or is it all Matsuzaka-centric hype? I’m curious whether Felix’s glow extends beyond the Pacific Northwest.

    Oh, yeah, everyone in NYC and Boston (the two Centers of the Universe, ya know 🙂 ) is aware of Good Felix and Bad Felix. In various other-team threads on those team’s fan message boards, Felix’s better conditioning and progress in ST was mentioned frequently (I suspect the closest eyes on Felix were by fantasy baseball GMs).

    One question on one board this morning was: “Can you imagine the firestorm from fans (Boston and Far East) if they moved the Thurs game to Wednesday and Matsuzaka pitched in the game that required Thursday’s tickets? Ticket brokers would be pumped because they’d get ANOTHER huge game to sell. The Wed night ticket holders would go from seeing a King Felix/Mastuzaka matchup to a Washburn/Wakefield duel.”

    The latest opinion from a Red Sox fan — just a couple of hours ago — monitoring the weather situation is “As of right now I say it is very doubtful. There are going to be enough periods of really heavy rain from Wednesday at midnight until Thursday at midnight that even with lulls I don’t expect a game to be played.” This was in response to the question, “So is it safe to assume there’s pretty much no chance of a game being played on Thursday?”

  12. Red Apple on April 9th, 2007 2:40 pm

    The M’s don’t skip their 5th starter on offdays.

    Because they’re still babying Felix to some extent, or is it a general organizational policy?

  13. milendriel on April 9th, 2007 3:55 pm

    Ugh, I have to work Wednesday night. Should be an awesome game.

  14. pablothegreat on April 9th, 2007 4:59 pm

    47: My suggestion that everyone move away from Cleveland was tongue-in-cheek. Also, I’ve always thought that Kucinich looks like an elf.

  15. joser on April 9th, 2007 5:13 pm

    I agree with Dave’s thinking about setting up the rotation anyway, but in terms of matchups (from a winning perspective not a baseball drama perspective), quite frankly I’d prefer not to see Felix vs Matsuzaka. Given the M’s offense so far, it’s quite possible Matsuzaka will shut them down completely even in cozy Fenway. Why waste a Felix start on a game where he gets no run support? Let the Red Sox have their Matsuzaka hypefest (shut-out? no hitter? Hey, it’s against the M’s, there has to be an asterisk), then let Felix do his thing when the Red Sox roll out someone the Mariners have a chance of slappig around. That being said, of course I hope I’m wrong and the Matsuzaka machine comes unglued at the hands of boys in, uh, teal.

  16. mln on April 9th, 2007 5:33 pm

    It would be funny if we are still having this conversation next week, and the Mariners are still stuck at 2-1.

    Maybe, the Mariners should just be into cryogenic suspended animation, and they can be unfrozen when the weather gets warmer.

  17. zzyzx on April 9th, 2007 6:59 pm

    65 – Friday is back at the Safe. Odds are that that game will be played 🙂

  18. msb on April 9th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Selig is on the Reds broadcast, and says that Larry Dolan of the Indians called him first thing this morning with the Cleveland to Milwaukee move already set– we want to play in Milwaukee, we’ve agreed to use their field, we have hotel rooms set already and we’ll charge $10.00 a ticket, and hope to get our own field in shape for the weekend series.

  19. John D. on April 10th, 2007 5:04 pm

    Ms skipping 5th starter (See # 61)

    The practice wasn’t instituted because of Felix (though it may havev been continued because of him). It used to be 35-35-34-34-24, but now it’s 32-32-32-32-32 (exactly as it was in 2003, when they used the same five starters all year).
    Some teams use a fifth starter only when necessary, but other teams seem to feel that each of the five starters can use the extra day of rest that an off-day gives them.

  20. John D. on April 10th, 2007 5:23 pm

    Re: # 68 – corrections

    (I must’ve accidentally hit some key or something, because my comment got posted before I had an opportunity to finish, or to proofread.)

    2nd line: that word should be HAVE.
    3rd line – before comma, add: (remember CLINT ZAVARAS or PAT RICE); and that 2nd rotation should be 33-33-32-32-32 [adds up to 162.]
    And, at end, add: BTW, it got tiresome, frequently hearing on today’s radio broadcast that the reason the M’s stunk was because of their long layoff. (I’m eager to see how Cleveland does tonight.)

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