Game 10, Twins at Mariners

Dave · April 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Happy Felix day! Carlos Silva represents the opposition tonight.

Autopilot Hargrove uses the same line-up as always. Broussard in for Guillen in right field. If you’re ever going to put Broussard out there, do it with Felix on the mound, because he’s not going to get many chances.

So, Felix Day #3. The last two starts, I had a feeling we were going to see something special. Tonight – I’m kind of worried, to be honest. Not in a “I think he’s going to get shelled” kind of way, but in a “he’s going to give up runs eventually” kind of way. And, if Felix has a weakness, its still left-handed hitters, and the Twins have a couple of the best in Mauer and Morneau. It’s not hard to turn on a fastball and pull it down the right field line at Safeco, so if Felix gives up a home run and raises his ERA all the way to 0.74 or something, I won’t be shocked.

Of course, I also won’t be shocked if he strikes out all 27 guys he faces. He’s Felix. Anything’s possible. Either way, Felix Day is appointment TV, and you couldn’t pry me away from this game with an army of chariots and swarms of locusts. I love Felix Day.


230 Responses to “Game 10, Twins at Mariners”

  1. davepaisley on April 18th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Cameron Wong and Dave Sims are a match made in heaven…


  2. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:14 pm

    If you allow one baserunner since the second inning, you should be able to come back and win with THAT many lead off baserunners.

  3. CSG on April 18th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Yeah, the cutoff man seemed really surprised that Beltre was trying to score.

  4. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:15 pm

    Anyone near McMinnville that wants to get drunk? Please

  5. thewyrm on April 18th, 2007 10:17 pm

    I would say the only way we can make Lincoln do something is to stop attending games, but I am terrified fan apathy may initiate an Ichiro trade. After Moyer last year, if Bavasi trades Ichiro I. . . It would be hard to keep cheering for this team.

  6. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:19 pm


    Homestands like this make it seem hard enough as it is. (No matter how excited Wong gets)

    Maybe Angie Mantank will body slam him back in the studio for such stupid comments.

  7. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:19 pm

    Nathan threw 24 pitches. If Ichiro and the 3B coach hadn’t handed two outs to the Twins, not only would we have tied and likely won the game, but Nathan would have probably been N/A tomorrow.

    Guess it doesn’t matter unless Washburn pitches his game of the season, though.

  8. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:21 pm

    result of tonight..less fans…more beer sales

  9. Slippery Elmer on April 18th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Oh, come on. That was the best chance they had to score. Ibanez is struggling mightily. Would you rather have had him ground out with the tying run on third? Even if Beltre’d have scored, you’ve got the sucking hitters coming up in the 10th. I don’t fault Garcia one bit.

    That said, if you outhit a team by 100% you ought to win. Tough loss, but a heartening comeback led by the guys who should be leading such an insurrection.

    Boo on the Felix injury, though. 86 wins?–how about 56?

  10. Slippery Elmer on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    (That was in response to #200.)

  11. Tom on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    haha, I know why Cameron Wong was thrilled about Beltre coming home and Lopez and Garcia waving him in.

    It’s part of this “All Out, Every Day.”(TM) Mariners montra they are trying to suck us into.

    Gee, I don’t know Cameron. Whatever happened to SMART BASEBALL. Every Day. Because that’s what would’ve bleepin’ won this game for us tonight.

    Why don’t you take your stupidity to some city where there isn’t a Major League Baseball team, hmmmmmmmmmm?

  12. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:23 pm

    I sent a player once in a freshman hs game against our bitter rivals in the last inning when the ball was being picked up by the left fielder. It was my 6th hitter and we had pushed a rally to tie it up, but my lineup had a drop off at that point.

    On the play, the left fielder made a perfect relay to the SS, who made a perfect relay to the 3b, who made a perfect throw to home plate, and got my player by about the same distance Beltre was gunned by.

    We lost the game, and I felt horrible. But I anticipated a level of performance indicitive of high school freshman slowing up the ball getting home, and I had the bottom of my lineup up.

    How a Major League 3b coach can make that bad a decision with debatably the team’s best hitter up and a closer who has been shakey both in the inning and the early season— egregious.

    I made a calculated risk. But at the pro level, with pro caliber players?

    That is a fireable offense.

    Grover and his 3b coach NEED to go now.

  13. Tom on April 18th, 2007 10:24 pm

    Oh, and I can only imagine what Hargrove has to say about this one. . .

    I would think of a quote he’d say, but I don’t want to because he’ll probably think of something stupider.

  14. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:25 pm

    I’d rather have even a 10% chance of scoring Beltre than a 1% chance (hoping that one of the lobbed throws might be errant).

    Ichiro’s 3-0 pop up was worse, though. Nathan wasn’t showing very good control at all, and, really, unless you’re going to hit a HR there’s no reason to swing at that. If someone greenlighted him they should be fired. If he decided to do that…well, he’s going to be traded anyway if Felix is gone for any extended period of time.

  15. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:28 pm


    That HAD to be sarcastic, right? Ibanez is a good hitter and is more than overdue this year. He hit the ball to deep center earlier. The Twins TOOK THEIR TIME on BOTH throws and still nailed him by a mile.

    It was a stupid decision that had a predictable outcome.

  16. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:29 pm

    Slippery Elmer, I ask you to watch, the remainder of the year, to see if EVEN ONCE you see a player score from 1b on a SHALLOW single to RF without being in motion pre-pitch. Even with a small bobble. I’ll even allot you all of MLB. If you see it AT ANY LEVEL– hell, even in a high school game, I would be shocked.

    Remember Griffey’s amazing run home? That was from first. ON A DOUBLE!!!! And Beltre, as solid a player as he is, does not run nearly as well as Griff in 95.

    It was a horrible decision. Give Ibanez a chance. Look at Nathan’s stat line this year– he is struggling just as mightily as is Ibanez.

  17. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:30 pm

    Oh…salt in the wound….Snelling scores the game winning run and is mobbed by his teammates 🙁

  18. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:31 pm


    Agreed. The only time you even THINK about such a decision is if Willie is either running or hitting next, lol

  19. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:34 pm

    Oh…salt in the wound….Snelling scores the game winning run and is mobbed by his teammates

    I feel good for him. At least he is getting to play now, and do well, I might add. Also, maybe the Nationals will win more than the Mariners this year. [Okay, not likely, though – but better odds than Beltre scoring from first on a single]

  20. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:36 pm
  21. induced entropy on April 18th, 2007 10:37 pm

    My roommate and I watched it online. First game I’ve seen all year. I am seriously sick to my stomach, and the more I think about it, the madder I get.

    That may be the worst “3b Coaching Decision” you will see all year, perhaps all decade.

    Remember how Snelling went down early a few years back? How mad would everyone be right now if that led to a collision at home plate knocking Beltre out for the year? Hell, how pissed at Seattle would the Twins be if that collision hurt Mauer?

    There was more likely a career ending injury occuring by sending a runner there than an actual run scoring. Sickening. Heinous. Atrocious. There aren’t words enough to describe how poor a decision it was.

    I can’t watch this happen anymore. Living in Denver, I’m gonna have to let them go and follow the Rockies. Seriously. I just can’t take being a Mariner Fan, it is too heartbreaking. I want out. Please, God, give me the strength to walk away from an abusive relationship.

  22. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:43 pm

    “The Mariners scored a run in the ninth on Jose Vidro’s single, but Beltre was thrown out trying to score the tying run on the same play.”

    Nice honest, descriptive account, eh?

  23. IdahoInvader on April 18th, 2007 10:43 pm

    I guess we can eliminate Cam Wong as being your roomy

  24. kentroyals5 on April 18th, 2007 10:47 pm

    me and a buddy are going to Chicago to see the M’s play at Wrigley…and I just mentioned Felix in the same breathe as Prior and Wood 🙁 Someone pinch me!

  25. Josh on April 18th, 2007 10:49 pm

    Non-team sources are a little better.

    “Jose Vidro hit a run-scoring single with two outs to make it 5-4. When Cuddyer overran the ball trying to pick it up, Beltre tried to score from first base. Castillo’s relay throw to Redmond easily beat Beltre home for the final out.”

    I didn’t watch any replays (too disgusted) but it looked at first view more like a bobble than over-running.

  26. colm on April 18th, 2007 11:39 pm

    Once Cuddyer flubbed the ball at first he seemed to resign himself to a run scoring, and gave up on making a tight play. He tossed the ball to Castillo.

    Castillo’s play back to the catcher looked like a little half-hearted lob from the wrist rather than some astonishing pivot-and-rocket.

    The Twins must have been stunned to see Beltre coming down the line. He was out by a fortnight.

    I honestly think that my team or six year old tee-ballers could have made that play.

    Well, maybe half the time.

  27. colm on April 18th, 2007 11:40 pm

    Oh crap I’ve accidentally adopted Steve Kelley’s signature style.

    Maybe nobody will notice.

    I’ll try to do it differently next time.

  28. Tom on April 19th, 2007 12:18 am

    Everybody read Geoff Baker’s blog now!!!!! Once again Hargrove’s stupidity is shown for all to see.

  29. HireHeyroldReynolds on April 19th, 2007 1:41 am

    “A gut feeling? Felix is going to be OK. But I have nothing to base it on.”

    “A good third base coach is not doing his job unless he is getting guys thrown out at home plate,”

    Thank you, Grover. These statements pretty much sum up the state of this franchise right now. Bad, bad vibes.

  30. Dave in Palo Alto on April 19th, 2007 11:15 am

    I’m not sure Hargrove is wrong in the abstract about third base coaches. The decision last night was wretched, but if you have a too timid 3B coach who never chooses the aggressive option, that’s a problem.

    However, the outs at home have to be close for the observation to be valid.

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