Game 21, White Sox at Mariners

Dave · May 1, 2007 at 6:26 pm · Filed Under Mariners 

Vazquez vs Washburn, 7:05 pm. Two pitchers doing well so far go up against each other in a battle of… I don’t know. Something.

Did you know that Ted Williams pitched mop-up in 1940 for the Red Sox and recorded a strikeout — of eight time All-Star Rudy York? It’s true. This fun fact brought to you by not having the lineups yet.

Also, a couple of years ago, the White Sox won the World Series. They had a pretty balanced line-up and could hit the ball out of the park. That team doesn’t exist anymore, and this White Sox offense is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

As a team, they’re hitting .225/.317/.379 while playing in one of the best offensive home parks in baseball. And that’s with Jim Thome (.340/.553/.680), who is now on the disabled list and won’t be playing against the M’s. Konerko and Dye have reverted back to their mediocre selves, while role players such as Crede, Erstad, and Pierzynski have just been downright horrible.

I fully expect to be reading all about Jarrod Washburn’s latest masterful performance in tomorrow morning’s papers. If he keeps facing Triple-A line-ups every start, he might just run away with the Cy Young award.

Comments

288 Responses to “Game 21, White Sox at Mariners”

  1. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 6:30 pm

    So now that Billy Butler is up in KC, do they have a better lineup than the Mariners?

  2. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 6:31 pm

    I just saw, for the first time, the Billy Bob Thornton remake of “The Bad News Bears.”

    I didn’t realize that it had Thornton’s Morris Buttermaker as a former Mariner pitcher — he threw two-third of an inning in his own MLB outing, in 1984, and recorded a 36.00 ERA.

  3. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 6:34 pm

    So how close, talent wise, is Josh Hamilton to the .983 OPS he’s putting up now?

  4. David* on May 1st, 2007 6:35 pm

    Broussard is in RF batting 6th, Burke is catching and batting 9th.

    No one in the White Sox starting lineup is batting over 250.

  5. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 6:37 pm

    When is Ellison going to get a start? It’s getting ridiculous.

  6. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 6:38 pm

    Travis Buck just smoked Paps with a Pesky 2-run game tying HR.

  7. colm on May 1st, 2007 6:40 pm

    That terrrrrible crack is tempting fate, with the reservations we have about our own dear M’s

  8. oboegal on May 1st, 2007 6:44 pm

    I was at the game last Friday. When the Mariners came out just before the game, one of the pitchers was wearing a pink back pack as he walked across the field toward the bull pin. Was this an initiation or just something I haven’t noticed? Does anyone know who it was?

  9. Dave on May 1st, 2007 6:46 pm

    The M’s do that to rookie pitchers every year – it was almost certainly Morrow.

  10. David* on May 1st, 2007 6:46 pm

    8, Mark Lowe talked about having to do that last year as a rookie. Not sure who it was on Friday, but I’d bet it was either Morrow or White.

  11. oboegal on May 1st, 2007 6:49 pm

    Thanks for the info. I figured that must be the case. Other pitchers were walking with him and they made sure that he took a slow and non-direct route across the field.

  12. joser on May 1st, 2007 6:52 pm

    I just saw, for the first time, the Billy Bob Thornton remake of “The Bad News Bears.”

    That’s too funny. I actually saw that a couple of weeks ago but missed the reference (my friends’ kids were fairly distracting). You can imagine the writer going “OK, what’s a team that’s been around long enough and has a sufficient record of futility and desperation to be a plausible former employer of this character?”

    I have fond childhood memories of the original BNB, though I know better than to ever see it again. What’s weird is that Jackie Earle Haley suddenly has a film career again and popped up in a couple of movies last year but it wasn’t until I looked him up on IMDB that I realized why he seemed so oddly familiar. It would’ve been funny/nice if they’d got some of the kids from the original in for cameos in the remake, as parents or something.

  13. Tek Jansen on May 1st, 2007 6:56 pm

    Joh is ok, isn’t he? I assume that with a day game tomorrow and traveling to Fenway then the Bronx, Grover decided to rest Kenji today rather than tomorrow or Thursday.

  14. hub on May 1st, 2007 7:02 pm

    A bit off-topic…but [deleted, off-topic]

  15. Russ on May 1st, 2007 7:04 pm

    Say, anybody see any good reviews of Cheater’s Guide to Baseball?

    I really love that book.

  16. JI on May 1st, 2007 7:06 pm

    Considering how erratic Vazquez is as a starer, I wonder if it’d be worth it see if he could be a high leverage reliever.

  17. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 7:08 pm

    I wonder what kind of LOOGY Randy Johnson would make when he’s fifty?

  18. bp in dc on May 1st, 2007 7:09 pm

    Phil Hughes with a no-no through 6 against Texas.

  19. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:12 pm

    Has a team ever been no-hit twice in one season?

  20. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:14 pm

    Raul needs a day off. So does Hargrove.

  21. bp in dc on May 1st, 2007 7:15 pm

    Good to see Broussard get the nod tonight. Assuming, of course, every muscle in his body hasn’t already atrophied.

  22. Jeff Sullivan on May 1st, 2007 7:16 pm

    The Padres were no-hit by AJ Burnett and Bud Smith in 2001 (and drew 13 walks in those two games).

  23. msb on May 1st, 2007 7:17 pm

    Joh has had back spasms off and on since sunday, apparently.

    I saw the pack, but didn’t notice if it was Morrow or White; they’ve both been responsible for it this year; bravely worn– some guys just carry it out to the bench

  24. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 7:18 pm

    Wow, Hughes out with an injury.

  25. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:18 pm

    22 good lookin’ out.

  26. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 7:21 pm

    (Hamstring if you’re curious)

  27. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:24 pm

    Feel bad for Hughes, not so bad for the Yankees, particularly with the M’s heading that way.

  28. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 7:25 pm

    26, Hamstring like ‘It looks like Felix is stretching his hamstring’ or confirmed hamstring injury?

  29. hub on May 1st, 2007 7:26 pm

    adrian sure likes swinging from his knees.

  30. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 7:26 pm

    Announcers said hamstring but they were the Rangers announcers and were guessing I think.

  31. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:26 pm

    Houston Street in to save an improbable comeback tonight for the A’s. Travis Buck took Papelbon deep on an 0-2 count in the ninth to tie it. I hate the A’s.

  32. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 7:27 pm

    That Beltre’s new strategy, hit off a knee?

  33. _David_ on May 1st, 2007 7:28 pm

    A’s beat Boston.

  34. Anthony on May 1st, 2007 7:29 pm

    YES showed the Yankees’ trainer in the dugout talking to Andy Pettitte and saying “popped.” That is sorta not so good.

  35. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:29 pm

    32, only when not appealing his own check-swing.

  36. joesuperdad on May 1st, 2007 7:30 pm

    Anyone else’s MLB TV acting funny? I have the basic, and it won’t let me watch, telling me I can’t watch in the 700K level, which I’m not pushing.

  37. bp in dc on May 1st, 2007 7:33 pm

    36. Yeah mine is being a little off as well.

    Annnnd that pitch was at his shoe tops.

  38. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:33 pm

    My mlb.tv is fine. I have premium. Good luck. Last year I was blacked out when I was not supposed to be and I actually got a hold of someone on their 800 number and got the problem fixed.

  39. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 7:35 pm

    YuBet with another great play. He might go down as our best defensive SS ever.

  40. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:36 pm

    Ben Broussard’s second cousin is a gazelle.

  41. Steven Stadnicki on May 1st, 2007 7:36 pm

    36. I’ve had this problem regularly, too. What’s worked for me is to clear out all the cookies from mlb.com from my browser; you’ll have to log in again to view the games, but it should work correctly. If I had to guess, I’d guess that their signin app is incorrectly flagging what level you’re trying to sign in at or somesuch.

  42. joser on May 1st, 2007 7:37 pm

    Yubet makes the impossible look easy and the routine look really, really hard (sometimes).

  43. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 7:38 pm

    At least I can stop trying to follow that game now that the no hitter is over.

  44. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:38 pm

    39 – I like Yuni, but there is not even a chance IMHO. Little O is among the best ever to play the position for any team.

  45. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 7:39 pm

    Phil Hughes is yet another example of a team rushing a pitcher to the majors too early. Heads are gonna roll in New York.

  46. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 7:39 pm

    39: I dunno about that, we did have a SS from 89-92, i believe, named Omar Vizquel who wasn’t too bad

  47. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:40 pm

    Anyone know which radar gun is more accurate? Joe’s Tracer is consistently 2 mph over the one on the bar at the top of the screen.

  48. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 7:40 pm

    45 – you have to bring them up at some point. I don’t see how you can say he was rushed when he was pitching a no hitter.

  49. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 7:41 pm

    It is still too early to predict YuBet to be our best, but we’ll see what everyone thinks in 10 years. I mean after all Omar was only here for 4 years.

  50. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:41 pm

    Let’s see if Richie can build on that single the other day.

  51. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:42 pm

    guess not.

  52. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 7:42 pm

    Hughes was trying too hard and he blew something out. Yankees really screwed up with Hughes.

  53. joesuperdad on May 1st, 2007 7:42 pm

    41 — Thanks, that did it. I’m back to watching the almost mediocrity that is Mariners baseball.

  54. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 7:42 pm

    Well it has certainly been argued that Morrow has been rushed into the big show, and he has pitched very well for us so far…

    But I do tend to agree that Hughes was just about ready to make an appearance. Especially given the circumstances of their rotation.

  55. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 7:45 pm

    1-0 chisox

  56. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 7:46 pm

    Hey, Jarrod Washburn showing his shutout stuff.

  57. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:46 pm

    That always happens to Ms pitchers. I swear.

  58. bp in dc on May 1st, 2007 7:46 pm

    But of course.

  59. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 7:46 pm

    Terrero goes yard

  60. beckya57 on May 1st, 2007 7:47 pm

    #56: Not any more.

  61. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:48 pm

    According to Dave N., he was hitting much in Charleston. Wells, the M’s staff has just the remedy.

  62. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:48 pm

    oops, wasn’t hitting much.

  63. msb on May 1st, 2007 7:50 pm

    Hughes was trying too hard and he blew something out. Yankees really screwed up with Hughes.

    “Phil Hughes had to be pulled out of a no-hitter in the seventh inning Tuesday after tweaking a hamstring.”

    I guess a no-no could be ‘trying too hard’…

  64. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 7:50 pm

    Oh great HoRam vs. Matsuzaka Thursday. Think we can shut ‘em out again????!

  65. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 7:54 pm

    What’s the word on Joh?

  66. David* on May 1st, 2007 7:55 pm

    I called my bookie and the odds on HoRam throwing a 1-hitter vs the Red Sox are eleventy trillion-to-one.

  67. DMZ on May 1st, 2007 7:57 pm

    I just want to say that I make a mean Phad Thai, and you should buy my book!

    Yeah, that’s right! OFF TOPIC AND A BOOK PLUG!!!!

  68. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Yah burke!

  69. DKCecil on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Our backup catcher is the best backup catcher!

  70. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Ichiro – please expand your strike zone!

  71. bp in dc on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Boy he turned on that like a rabid dog. Alright, Ich, pick him up.

  72. Rick L on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Crash Davis strikes again!

  73. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:00 pm

    Johjima/Burke: The catcher/DH platoon.

  74. msb on May 1st, 2007 8:01 pm

    mmm. phad thai. not too spicy, though.

    Joh has back spasms.

  75. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 8:01 pm

    Looks like the kid has a future in this game, well for at least a few years.

  76. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:01 pm

    I might buy the book if you make me pad thai.

  77. Rick L on May 1st, 2007 8:02 pm

    73. Good idea. Let’s trade Vidro while his numbers are good.

  78. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 8:04 pm

    I remain squarely on the Vidro bandwagon. Do not trade him.

  79. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:04 pm

    The M’s sure are getting plenty of bang for their Burke.

  80. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 8:06 pm

    Rene Rivera is looking more and more expendable every day, particularly with the other catching prospects in the organization.

  81. DMZ on May 1st, 2007 8:06 pm

    You haven’t bought the book already?

    Is that really the deal-clencher for you? Phad Thai?

  82. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:08 pm

    Not really. I’d also accept lemon meringue pie or possibly some really good cookies.

  83. msb on May 1st, 2007 8:08 pm

    don’t do it, Lauren! Make him throw in a Jason Barker Baked Good, too!

  84. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:10 pm

    I just looked up Phad Thai on wikipedia. If you’re making it, please leave the fish sauce off for me…. and it better not be the light kind.

  85. joser on May 1st, 2007 8:10 pm

    Phad Thai is a deal-clencher for pretty much everything afaik

  86. joesuperdad on May 1st, 2007 8:11 pm

    I’d go for that phad tai offer also for the book purchase.

  87. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:11 pm

    I’d also accept lemon meringue pie

    Me too. Where in Seattle are the great pie places?

  88. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Good pitching “duel” in Colorado Springs, with Jake Woods and Sean Green teaming on seven-hit shutout over eight innings. One-zip, Tacoma.

  89. joser on May 1st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Actually the key to good Phad Thai is to use real Tamarinds, not ketsup/ketchup/sweet tomato goop.

    The fish sauce just adds a salty tang. You can’t really taste it, particularly if you use an adequate amoung of peppers.

  90. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:12 pm

    Most boring game so far this year?

  91. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

    Has Adrian ever not been fooled by that pitch.

    Electricty will work. I’m just sayin’.

  92. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

    Can we please start getting some bop out of our “big boppers” today? Just one would do, and not the solo variety.

  93. joesuperdad on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

    90 I’m not sure that is an answerable question.

  94. joser on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

    Some great pies at B&O Espresso (at least for the next year until the building is razed for condos). Their Lemon Sour Cream pie is better than any Lemon Meringue I’ve ever tasted.

  95. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:14 pm

    Electricty or one of those other powerful physical forces.

  96. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:15 pm

    This is probably the final score right now, 1-0 Sox

  97. msb on May 1st, 2007 8:15 pm

    Where in Seattle are the great pie places?

    my house?

  98. Wells on May 1st, 2007 8:15 pm

    Vidro is my favorite Mariner ever!!!

  99. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:15 pm

    …oop, spoke too soon, we’ll probably score

  100. Rick L on May 1st, 2007 8:16 pm

    A double play ties the game. Can Raul do it?

  101. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:16 pm

    Anybody like Felix Pie?

  102. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:16 pm

    I dunno, maybe we strand them. That’s always a possibility

  103. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:16 pm

    MSB pie party!

  104. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:17 pm

    102- It has a probability with the M’s.

  105. Rick L on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Better than that! He retains one U

  106. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Wow, time that play with an hourglass…

  107. M Bombs on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Funk Blast!!!

  108. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    SEXY!

  109. David* on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    FUNK BLAST

  110. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    HA!

  111. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Wow I should do that more often. Thanks Richie!

  112. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    funk blast

    pie partay!!!!

  113. Norm Charlton Fan Club on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    FUNK BLAST!!!

  114. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    TURBO breaks up the DP!

  115. Rick L on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    Sexson may not hit often, but when he does, kaboom.

  116. billT on May 1st, 2007 8:19 pm

    I liked how the funk blast sign was going before the ball was even out.

  117. Norm Charlton Fan Club on May 1st, 2007 8:20 pm

    Do they sell “funk blast” tshirts at Safeco?

  118. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:20 pm

    I’d buy one

  119. Troy J on May 1st, 2007 8:20 pm

    they put up the funk blast right after he hit the ball.

  120. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:21 pm

    Oh no! They’re tearing down B&O? Ergh. Yeah, they’re the dessert go-to place.

    I hear Dahlia Lounge has great pies, but I’ve never been.

    Of course (pulling it all back together) no pie could be as tasty as a fine Sexson homer.

  121. David* on May 1st, 2007 8:21 pm

    Me too. Where in Seattle are the great pie places?

    I’m partial to B&O on Capitol Hill off East Olive.

  122. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:22 pm

    Wait, I’m confused. Shouldn’t Dave be the one plying the pie?

    This is starting to get as confusing as the last couple of seasons of Friends.

  123. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:23 pm

    The term “funk blast” is a tragic and unfortunate development in baseball.

  124. David* on May 1st, 2007 8:23 pm

    Oh man I’m slow………they can’t tear down B&O.

    That’ll delay my diabetes by at least 5 years. I love B&O.

  125. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:23 pm

    It’s even worse than “walk-off homer” ….

  126. Jeff Sullivan on May 1st, 2007 8:23 pm

    Why do you hate fun?

  127. Norm Charlton Fan Club on May 1st, 2007 8:24 pm

    Thom Jimsen said:
    May 1st, 2007 at 8:23 pm
    The term “funk blast” is a tragic and unfortunate development in baseball.

    I wish you weren’t a liar.

  128. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:26 pm

    127 WOULD YOU LET ME FINISH ONE DAMN STORY

  129. joser on May 1st, 2007 8:26 pm

    B&O won’t disappear, never fear. I’ve talked to the owners. They think the developer will have a space for them in the new building, but they’ll be out of business until it’s done. So they might just relocate. Or they may relocate temporarily. They weren’t really sure about anything when I talked to them, other than that they had about a year to sort everything out. But they’re committed to staying in business somehow, somewhere.

  130. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 8:27 pm

    i love funk blast… we have something unique to call our homers, whats so wrong with it?

  131. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:27 pm

    We’re on our way to turning Washburn into a $125 million pitcher.

  132. Joe on May 1st, 2007 8:27 pm

    Funk pie?

  133. pumpkinhead on May 1st, 2007 8:28 pm

    Is it me, or did Vidro not slide anywhere near 2nd base when he was breaking up the DP? I’m glad he did since it got the M’s an extra run, but jeez.

    I know Derek mentioned sliding into the 2nd baseman as cheating, but I thought this was pretty blatant.

  134. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:28 pm

    Long live the funk blast

  135. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:28 pm

    What’s unique about it?

    This is just like everybody wearing out “Who Let The Dogs Out?” circa 2000. The term got worn into a cliche in about 11 minutes. Let’s move on and come up with something new.

  136. revbill on May 1st, 2007 8:28 pm

    I just read an explanation of where Funk Blast came from and I’m just as confused as I was before. Oh, well, it beats “Who Let the Dogs Out.”

  137. fargomsfan on May 1st, 2007 8:29 pm

    If you ain’t cheatin’ you ain’t tryin’

  138. Jeff Sullivan on May 1st, 2007 8:29 pm

    The only difference being that “Who Let The Dogs Out” sucked.

  139. Norm Charlton Fan Club on May 1st, 2007 8:29 pm

    Hahaha on Wikipedia…”Funk Blast” re-directs you to Sexson’s page

  140. joser on May 1st, 2007 8:30 pm

    Actually if you’re going Tom Douglas you might as well hit the Dahlia Bakery next door and get an entire pie to go…

  141. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:30 pm

    135 Except “who let the dogs” out had an annoying song attached to it. Funk blast has no crappy song

  142. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:30 pm

    Hmm, I just realized today that the “real” M’s are actually 10-6, which is really pretty good.

    It’s just that every fifth day debacle/ fiasco/ catastrophe that’s holding us back.

  143. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:31 pm

    Great play by Ozuna. Too bad it wasn’t the M’s dugout.

  144. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:31 pm

    No, “funk blast” just has a crappy player attached to it.

  145. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:31 pm

    I very well may be wrong, but it sure seems like 90 percent of Vazquez’s pitches are outside. Is that normal or is that how you get our hitters out?

  146. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 8:32 pm

    144 touche

  147. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:34 pm

    Wow. Two generous calls.

  148. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:34 pm

    Even the “Rally Monkey” was retired, and quietly donated to cosmetics research and is now somewhere in a lab with its eyelids pinned open, getting sprayed with new Revlon fragrances ….

  149. M Bombs on May 1st, 2007 8:34 pm

    Somebody has to be the curmudgeon to ruin everyone’s fun. I heart the Funk Blast.

  150. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:35 pm

    And anybody who does “The Wave” nowadays will be subjected to a vicious beatdown by preteens.

  151. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:35 pm

    148- They still use the rally monkey down in Anahiem, sorry.

  152. fargomsfan on May 1st, 2007 8:35 pm

    We want the funk, gotta have that funk!

  153. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:36 pm

    #148

    Uh, I was hoping the rally monkey was being spayed to prevent any further mutations.

  154. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:36 pm

    Anaheim should be sorry.

  155. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:37 pm

    Man, Sims just said that Washburn’s breaking ball missed a pie.

    He must be reading the blog in the booth.

  156. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:37 pm

    That’s worse than having “Mambo No. 5″ as your cell-phone ringtone.

  157. robbbbbb on May 1st, 2007 8:37 pm

    Okay. That was creepy. Betancourt and Beltre had me afraid they had a miscommunication going.

  158. billT on May 1st, 2007 8:38 pm

    “Let-up pitch” is starting to get on my nerves. It didn’t bother me at first, but since few Mariners actually throw a fastball, it seems that almost everything is a ‘let-up pitch’ …. can’t he just say changeup?

  159. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:39 pm

    76 pitches for Washburn through 6. Is he going to go back-to-back CG’s?

    How many did he have total last season?

  160. fargomsfan on May 1st, 2007 8:40 pm

    159–must be working on a Yankee contract

  161. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:40 pm

    Guess what? I got a fever! And the only prescription.. is more funk blast!!!

  162. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:41 pm

    160 – Well by the time his current contract is up he’ll be just about old enough for the Yankees to sign for about 150 million.

  163. Suckerjones on May 1st, 2007 8:42 pm

    I think I’m calling it the Sex Bomb. To go along with the Yuni Bomb and the Batista Bomb (not a bomb I like to see). Funk Blast is ‘tarded.

  164. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:44 pm

    Rau..u… uh, ok, one more u…l!

  165. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    WTF IBANEZ~!!! WTF WAS THAT!!

  166. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    Ohhh holy poop.

  167. billT on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    That’s ridiculous.

  168. M Bombs on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    Ibanez what the f? Beltre, why so nonchalant? What a waste.

  169. DKCecil on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    He’s down to Ral after that. What a dumb play.

  170. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:45 pm

    Are you kidding me?

  171. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    How stupid was that. That is the worst running blunder in an already horrible history of blunders by the Mariners.

  172. revbill on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    He’s been downgraded to Ral.

  173. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    yeah i gotta say that was just as much Beltre’s fault for not even being tagged up when he caught the damn ball

  174. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    WOW… First base coach needs to be fired before next inning.

  175. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    Oh, come on, how many players would guess their idiot teammate is going to try to take 2nd base and get thrown out?

  176. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 8:46 pm

    Ra (u^-3)l. Oof.

  177. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 8:47 pm

    well you dont know either way, so you hustle just to make sure…

  178. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:47 pm

    175-

    Yeah seriously. How do you get thrown out at second.

  179. DKCecil on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    Wait, it looked like Beltre scored in that split-screen, at least from what I could tell.

  180. Troy J on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    umm, beltre was easily accross home. that was a bad call.

  181. M Bombs on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    175

    I take it back. Not Beltre’s fault at all. Idiot base running by Ibanez.

  182. DKCecil on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    Scored first, that is.

  183. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    That replay makes no sense. There is no way Beltre is slower than Raul going the same distance

  184. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:48 pm

    From what I just saw on the replay Beltre was hustling, moreso than a lot of guys would be on a deep sacfly like that.

  185. DMZ on May 1st, 2007 8:49 pm

    I… I still can’t believe that happened.

  186. Suckerjones on May 1st, 2007 8:50 pm

    Washburnimated. Ouch!

  187. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:50 pm

    That was barely a HR…. just barely. Putz for another 2 inning save tonight?

  188. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:50 pm

    Was it a “funk tag”?

  189. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:50 pm

    Why would you try and tag to second in that situation? The run is much more important than getting to second. The coaching staff gives us another D- effort.

    That run might come in handy after that shot.

  190. Dylan on May 1st, 2007 8:50 pm

    Amazing how it’s such a game of inches. That is 2 inches right it’s foul. Burke’s is 2 inches right it’s a double.

  191. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:51 pm

    Washburn is doing the right thing. He’s pitching with a lead -which should have been a 3 run lead

  192. Suckerjones on May 1st, 2007 8:51 pm

    And that’s what I love about Robbie Mac.

  193. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:52 pm

    Coach doesn’t make that call. That was all Raul.

  194. revbill on May 1st, 2007 8:52 pm

    Someone needs to explain to Rl that he can’t run fast. Maybe they can bring Edgar back to break the news to him.

  195. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:53 pm

    Good outing by Washburn, can’t complain about that.

  196. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:53 pm

    “Flunk blast!”

  197. fargomsfan on May 1st, 2007 8:53 pm

    Nice work Wash

  198. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:54 pm

    193. First base coach should go kick Ral in the head for making him look inept. He is over there for a reason and its not to hold shin guards.

  199. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:55 pm

    “Funk whiff!”

  200. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:55 pm

    Ben doesn’t look so good against lefties does he.

  201. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 8:55 pm

    199- Good to see you getting Funk Fever!

  202. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:56 pm

    Oops meant rightie.

  203. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 8:56 pm

    Broussard looking real stiff tonight. Not surprising, but this won’t go a long way towards him getting many more starts. Too bad he’s been sitting on the bench a month or he might actually have something going.

    Washburn is finally showing us that he’s worth some of that huge contract he signed. If we have any hope of winning the division he needs to have a(nother) career year.

  204. Pete Livengood on May 1st, 2007 8:56 pm

    189 – amen.

  205. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:57 pm

    If you want a player to fail, you play him like they’ve played Broussard, IMO.

  206. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 8:58 pm

    “Funk pop!”

  207. argh on May 1st, 2007 8:59 pm

    Not that Broussard did noticeably worse than his team mates in the 7th inning.

  208. enazario on May 1st, 2007 8:59 pm

    I agree. After a month on the bench you can’t expect him to look good with a guy that has that kind of change-up tonight. Grover showing us why he’s the man again.

  209. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:01 pm

    Lets ride that Funk Cheese to the 9th!

  210. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:02 pm

    Rietsma must be really pissed by now.

  211. bakomariner on May 1st, 2007 9:03 pm

    if he throws nothing but fastballs, his arm will fly off, or they will tee-off on one…either way, he needs another pitch…

  212. Roger on May 1st, 2007 9:04 pm

    DMZ, did you catch this review at Amazon?

    Every review on here so far is from this guy’s friends or family, so don’t put any stock into them…he is a contributor on a blogsite, where anyone’s opinion will be censored if he doesn’t agree with it, so why buy a book from someone like this? Good question. Your’s truly, MantoFan

    I’m personally ignoring the other 11 positive reviews and letting this one persuade me to remove it from my wish list.

  213. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:04 pm

    210- You mean by losing his job to a rookie with 1 pitch?? I would say a lil bit.

  214. billT on May 1st, 2007 9:05 pm

    if he throws nothing but fastballs, his arm will fly off, or they will tee-off on one…either way, he needs another pitch…

    As a starter, yes. But as a reliever he can get by throwing basically nothing but fastballs. To me, that’s the biggest problem with sticking him in the bullpen, especially in high leverage situations. He’s not getting any chance to work on secondary pitches.

  215. mpriest13 on May 1st, 2007 9:05 pm

    Good outing by Washburn, can’t complain about that.

    Not really a good outing. Just bad hitting!

  216. bakomariner on May 1st, 2007 9:05 pm

    Roger-

    it shouldn’t even be on your wish list…buy the book…tis good…

  217. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 9:06 pm

    Yeah, especially when Morrow is giving up those three run homers.

    Oh wait, that was Reitsma…

  218. Nuss on May 1st, 2007 9:06 pm

    You know, Washburn was getting smacked around by all teams last year — good hitting and bad hitting. I know bad lineups have something to do with it, but c’mon — the guy is doing something right.

  219. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:07 pm

    I am getting a man-crush on his fastball… thats two FUNK K’s!

  220. bakomariner on May 1st, 2007 9:08 pm

    i agree with nuss…if he keeps it up, and felix is okay, we’ll have a nice 1-2 punch…

  221. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:08 pm

    ANOTHER PITCH!! They had to tell him to throw it, though.

  222. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 9:08 pm

    So how was that for an off speed pitch?

  223. bakomariner on May 1st, 2007 9:09 pm

    what that a “funk back”…sorry…that was reaching…

  224. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 9:09 pm

    “Funk gas!”

  225. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:10 pm

    Is it just me or does that FSN ball tracker seem way off on a regular basis?

  226. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:10 pm

    Low Low Low!

  227. Nuss on May 1st, 2007 9:10 pm

    211, 214 — Didn’t you notice that his two non-strikeouts came on really good offspeed pitches? Not to say that he can do it all the time, but he threw some nice sliders and splitters. His fastball was only hitting about 93-94, so he needed another way to get outs. He found it. I was impressed — far more impressed than the times he has blown people away.

  228. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:11 pm

    FUNKS OUT THE SIDE!!

  229. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 9:11 pm

    Actually, I think “Funk gas” is how Sexson clears out the clubhouse.

  230. fdeezle on May 1st, 2007 9:12 pm

    225 – I agree…it seems way off.

  231. joser on May 1st, 2007 9:13 pm

    Dave N on the radio was calling sliders and splitters. Was Morrow actually throwing those? Dave’s eyes aren’t what they used to be…

  232. Replacement level poster on May 1st, 2007 9:13 pm

    RE 224

    It is actually funk-k, and its just pronounced funky.

  233. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:14 pm

    231 – Dave N – Belted to deep right field. Er, caught in shallow center.

  234. Joe on May 1st, 2007 9:14 pm

    Ok, so since the M’s have apparently given up on Morrow as a starter, how about this: get him ready to be the closer. Trade Putz, the “proven closer” in July for whatever you can get….

  235. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:14 pm

    231 – no. Morrow threw 1 slider and that was it, the rest were fastballs.

    That’s just Dave N. being Dave N.

  236. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:17 pm

    Do we know if Morrow throws a 2 and 4 seam fastball?

  237. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:17 pm

    They haven’t given up on Morrow as a starter yet. The problem is that both Bavasi and Hargrove are desperately trying to keep their jobs doing a disservice to the kid in the process.

  238. Joe on May 1st, 2007 9:17 pm

    That ball tracker has had days when the strikes appear to be six inches inside and the balls are 12 inches inside. And other days when it’s all outside. I don’t know if it requires calibration, or it’s just a random number generator not based on anything real, but they really shouldn’t bother.

  239. joser on May 1st, 2007 9:18 pm

    233 — exactly. I love his voice (and the silences he allows when there’s nothing worth saying) but his eyes, oh his eyes…

  240. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:22 pm

    239 – On his worse day I would listen to him over Rick “this team never gives up” reyz

  241. billT on May 1st, 2007 9:22 pm

    I think Burke is faster than Vidro … Vidro would have had to slide there, if he made it to third at all.

  242. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:22 pm

    Apparently nobody has let the White Sox in on the whole “Beltre low and away” bit….. shhhhhhh

  243. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:23 pm

    Why would anyone throw Beltre fastballs inside? Anything middle-in he can crush.

  244. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:24 pm

    Matt Thornton sighting!! Sweet!

  245. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:26 pm

    Did they not know Vidro was a switch hitter? Seems odd to bring in a worse relief pitcher…

  246. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:27 pm

    FUNK BLAST REPLAY!

  247. msb on May 1st, 2007 9:27 pm

    that reminds me, JJ was reminiscing about Arthur Lee’s past bullpen exploits, one of which was a Matt-Thornton-in-the-biffy-when-the-fireworks-went-off story

  248. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 9:27 pm

    Raul needs some redemption today…

  249. planB on May 1st, 2007 9:27 pm

    Raul is absolved.

  250. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 9:28 pm

    OK, a couple of U’s back

  251. zzyzx on May 1st, 2007 9:28 pm

    Rauuuuuuuuuuuuuul!

  252. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 9:28 pm

    alright… I didnt jinx him, sweet

  253. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:28 pm

    you can have 1 U back, Raul!

  254. Zero Gravitas on May 1st, 2007 9:28 pm

    I would have considered pinchrunning Bloomquist for Burke earlier if Joh could finish the game at Catcher. I can’t see the game but I imagine Burke is not a speedster. This seems like one of those spots where Bloomquist might have been quite useful.

  255. Thom Jimsen on May 1st, 2007 9:29 pm

    Who’ll bring the dogs in?

  256. bakomariner on May 1st, 2007 9:30 pm

    poor ellison…just when you thought he’d get an at bat…lol…

  257. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:33 pm

    FUNK PUTZ!

  258. Lauren, token chick on May 1st, 2007 9:33 pm

    J. J. Putz: Imprisoning dogs since 2004.

  259. thenatural on May 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

    M’S WIN!!!

  260. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

    Good win.

  261. davepaisley on May 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

    11-6!!!!

  262. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

    FUNK SAVE for the FUNK WIN!

  263. enazario on May 1st, 2007 9:37 pm

    Did you all see Ibanez apologizing to Sexson for losing him a rbi.

  264. msb on May 1st, 2007 9:39 pm

    now closing … the Dogcatcher.

    btw, the afternoon guys at KJR are still trying hang the monicker “Big Trouble” on Felix.

  265. Slippery Elmer on May 1st, 2007 9:41 pm

    #234 Joe said:

    Ok, so since the M’s have apparently given up on Morrow as a starter, how about this: get him ready to be the closer. Trade Putz, the “proven closer” in July for whatever you can get.

    I’d feel a lot better about that move if Lowe is back to form by then. However, that would make reliever Morrow redundant (like Lowe made Soriano redundant) and he could go down and learn to start.

  266. argh on May 1st, 2007 9:42 pm

    My love for Angie Mentik is well recorded here but my God, are they going to have the woman deliver on camera? Isn’t she due like momentarily? I swear during the post-game I thought she was in labor at least twice.

  267. sdlamm on May 1st, 2007 9:43 pm

    This just in… the highly touted Geoff Baker thinks that wins and ERA are the ultimate measure of whether a pitcher is an ace… it’s really sad that he’s a serious improvement over Finnigan.

  268. edgarmartinezyankeehater on May 1st, 2007 9:44 pm

    Well well well, looks like CyWash wins again, let me guess, the defending champs are a horrible team too right? suck it up and swallow it down, CyWash is a new man!

  269. BayAreaFan on May 1st, 2007 9:47 pm

    The M’s get the bottom of the rotation tomorrow. They need a w before heading east.

  270. Josh on May 1st, 2007 9:48 pm

    Well well well, looks like CyWash wins again, let me guess, the defending champs are a horrible team too right? suck it up and swallow it down, CyWash is a new man!

    The Cards aren’t doing to well but… oh… hmm.

  271. Big_Smooth_Mariner on May 1st, 2007 9:48 pm

    Welllll let’s not drink the J-Wash Kool-aid quite yet. He’s been very very good so far, but the White Sox are hitting like .220 as a team and they were without their main guy Thome. The next 2 weeks will be more of a measure for him, with much better line-ups to throw against.

  272. Josh on May 1st, 2007 9:49 pm

    to = too

  273. Morgan on May 1st, 2007 9:51 pm

    Nice win

  274. bhsmarine on May 1st, 2007 9:52 pm

    Lets hope they don’t get into a save situation with Putz going the last two games…

  275. apunetid on May 1st, 2007 9:54 pm

    I just got in and…M’s win! Yeah! This makes studying for finals fun (and umproductive)!

  276. Josh on May 1st, 2007 9:59 pm

    This just in… the highly touted Geoff Baker thinks that wins and ERA are the ultimate measure of whether a pitcher is an ace… it’s really sad that he’s a serious improvement over Finnigan.

    I don’t know what you read, but to me he seems to come to the conclusion that wins aren’t the best measurement standard:

    So, there you have the top dozen candidates to be, if not a No. 1, at least a No. 2 starter. What, no Ted Lilly? Didn’t the Cubs just pay him all that money? Wasn’t he a 15-game winner last season? Sorry, chumps. By the way, just for kicks, let’s take the top-7 guys from our list and check out their won-lost records.

    [. . .list. . .]

    Not a single 15-game winner in the bunch. Three of the seven had losing records and one was a .500 pitcher. But chances are, get them on the mound and they’ll give their team a better hope at winning each time out than any other No. 2 starters in the game today. For those who wondered this spring why I was so high on Angels starter Escobar, there you go. The Mariners? They don’t have anyone on the list. But Washburn gave it a go his last two outings. Let’s see what happens tonight.

    It may not be the most concise measurement ever, but it’s also not what you said.

  277. byronebyronian on May 1st, 2007 10:01 pm

    I am by no means going to anoint Washburn the front runner for Cy Young, but c’mon guys, he’s pitched well so far and who’s to say he can’t keep doing a decent job the rest of the way? I don’t buy into the White Sox being bad hitters and if Washburn was as bad as some make him out to be wouldn’t they Sox have owned him tonight?

    If Wash can continue to pitch to keep us in games where we have a chance to win, then I’d be very happy with that.

    Just my 2 cents.

  278. Josh on May 1st, 2007 10:13 pm

    Something interesting about Washburn coming into tonight was the ground out / air out ratio. Here are his recent marks:

    2002 – 0.63 (31.4% v. 49.5%)
    2003 – 0.71 (32.1% v. 45.5%)
    2004 – 0.94 (38.5% v. 41.1%)
    2005 – 0.98 (39.2% v. 39.9%)
    2006 – 0.94 (39.9% v. 42.2%)
    2007 – 1.30 (51.8% v. 39.8%)

    That 1.30 for this season will go down a bit after tonight’s 8/9 performance. Still, is he really becoming a fairly strong groundball pitcher, or have the lineups dictated most (maybe not all) of the results?

    Line drive % is your friend:

    2002 – 19.2%
    2003 – 22.4%
    2004 – 20.4%
    2005 – 21.0%
    2006 – 17.9%
    2007 – 8.4%

    Too bad it’s not mid-July. Might have been a good opportunity to sell high.

  279. Curt_rocks_my_sox on May 1st, 2007 10:18 pm

    Raul needs a day off. So does Hargrove.

    Hargrove needs a year off.

  280. B_Con on May 1st, 2007 10:22 pm

    Does Brandon Morrow have a nickname yet? How about a few bad ones to get things going…

    Chris Berman would suggest ‘Brandon “The Day After To”Morrow’.

    Niehaus would go with “Morry” or maybe even “Morrowy”.

  281. gwangung on May 1st, 2007 10:22 pm

    I am by no means going to anoint Washburn the front runner for Cy Young, but c’mon guys, he’s pitched well so far and who’s to say he can’t keep doing a decent job the rest of the way? I don’t buy into the White Sox being bad hitters and if Washburn was as bad as some make him out to be wouldn’t they Sox have owned him tonight?

    If Wash can continue to pitch to keep us in games where we have a chance to win, then I’d be very happy with that.

    You do realize that the two paragraphs don’t have anything to do with each other? That you can certainly believe that it was more bad htting than Washburn pitching well–but that kind of pitching can keep you in plenty of games….

  282. Josh on May 1st, 2007 10:30 pm

    Also, his IFFB rate is 18.2%. Unless he’s pitching to 9 Yunis, that won’t stick.

  283. Josh on May 1st, 2007 10:32 pm

    You do realize that the two paragraphs don’t have anything to do with each other? That you can certainly believe that it was more bad htting than Washburn pitching well–but that kind of pitching can keep you in plenty of games…

    He said, “I don’t buy into the White Sox being bad hitters.”

  284. sdlamm on May 1st, 2007 10:54 pm

    Josh,
    Read a little further in Geoff’s addition to his latest post and you’ll see him argue that a true “ace” has to win 15 games.

    “To answer a question below, yes, Peavy and Lackey are consensus “No. 1″ guys on their staff. But are they true “aces” of their staffs? I’d argue that a true “ace” has to win at least 15 games and have an ERA under 4.00 as a minimum. The term “ace” is overused so often these days. Is Felix Hernandez an ace? In my book, he’s a 12-game winner with a great upside. Proving is everything in this game.”

  285. vj on May 2nd, 2007 1:32 am

    Going back to the “Funk Blast” post I’d like to point out that this is a great CD. Probably still available at the EMP giftshop.

  286. msb on May 2nd, 2007 8:41 am

    Niehaus would go with “Morry” or maybe even “Morrowy”.

    Neihaus doesn’t give players diminutive nicknames. He will use ones that have been given the clubhouse, but he himself favors the descriptive, ie ‘The Big Michigander’

  287. Evan on May 2nd, 2007 12:24 pm

    Dave does use Big Sexy when Richie’s hitting well.

  288. Joe on May 2nd, 2007 2:27 pm

    Only off by two bases there, Joe

    Actually, I posted that before Lopez took a pitch. I was referring to his HR earlier — when was the last time those two had HRs in a game? Of course, it could have been taken as a hopeful prediction, too.

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