Game 27, Mariners at Yankees
DMZ · May 7, 2007 at 3:30 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
Miguel Batista v Emergency Starter DeSalvo.
Bloomquist likely to get another start, but he’s clutch, right, so he should be able to scratch this out.
The Yankees, adjusted standings-wise, are 16-13, and the M’s are 11-15. Make of that what you will.
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I don’t see The Igniter..thank goodness
Bloomquist likely to get another start, but he’s clutch, right, so he should be able to scratch this out.
look at yankee stadium infield worms! you got another long day ahead of you.
Seems just plain wrong to me to keep trotting Sexson out there every day right now.
Torre’s sitting out this game after MLB suspended him for yesterday’s static. Yay, more Yankees news being gingerly shoved down our throats.
WE HAVE A LINEUP MIXER GOING ON!!! Yahoo sports is reporting…
Ich
Turbo
Joh
Ibanez
Sexson
Guillen
Beltre
Yuni
Lopez
The Yankees, adjusted standings-wise, are 16-13, and the M’s are 11-15. Make of that what you will.
You forgot the part where both teams have AAAA pitching staffs right now.
5- Maybe Hargrove got lazy and let Johjima fill it out
5 – Wow! Its like the whole time-space continuum has shifted. I’m not sure just who or where I am right now!
so, in my last two bus rides home (about 4 innings total), 16 runs have scored. what oh what will happen today!
Come on, Beluga Tits!
I am in no way an advocate of rushing Felix back before he’s ready, but could you imagine the momentum of having him start this game, and coming out of NY winning 2/4? I’m just saying.
ok, so undoubtedly this is a stupid question, but what are adjusted standings?
Adjusted Standings
So do we get the 5 hit Batista or the 10 hit version tonight? Fingers crossed for the first option and a split in NY. GO M’s!
“New York Yankees manager Joe Torre and pitcher Scott Proctor will not be in uniform with the rest of the team for Monday’s game against the Seattle for their actions in Sunday’s game against the Mariners.
Proctor has been suspended for four games and fined an undisclosed amount for intentionally throwing at Seattle’s Yuniesky Betancourt in the seventh inning, and Torre was issued an automatic one-game suspension for Proctor’s actions after warnings had been issued.”
I am in no way an advocate of rushing Felix back before he’s ready, but could you imagine the momentum of having him start this game, and coming out of NY winning 2/4? I’m just saying.
Not only that, he’d have replaced Weaver in the rotation… who in my opinion proved NOTHING in his start. Weaver could have easily been knocked out earlier than the 6th, but he got lucky to contrast with his unlucky starts earlier.
Followup on #17 – Proctor appealed and will be able to play today; Torre did not and will sit out, Mattingly takes over for this game.
Oh, and Turbo’s batting second, Johjima’s 3rd.
Small steps, Mike, small steps…
Oops, I meant followup on #15.
ec – I disagree. I think Weaver showed us all something. Unfortunately, nobody who makes the decisions decided to pay attention to what it was he actually showed them. Weaver has been awful, and its a sad state when being simply bad gives him another start.
Would be nice to see Lopez in the second spot. Have Turbo bloop in RBI’s around the 7 spot.
I am elated with this lineup change. Finally, Hargrove with a positive lineup move. Why Vidro is hitting second and Beltre 7th is beyond me though. I guess Vidro doesn’t strike out as much, but his OBP is similar and he doesn’t have nearly as much power. If anything I’d move Beltre to 5th and Sexson to 7th right now, but I’ll take these baby steps as they come.
GO M’s!!
ICHIRO!!!
RAUUUL!
I said “proved”- and he proved he was replacement-level to me in starts 1-4. 5 was superfluous in my book.
Weaver’s last 199 regular season innings = 6.28 ERA. I think I’m willing to pick THOSE as the valid sample instead of Game 5 of the World Series.
Now if we can only get Grover to sit Sexson…
Oh, good, we actually can hit a AAA emergency pitcher. Yay us.
Yay for Johjima batting third!
ec – I’m actually agreeing with you here. I just shook my head when Hargrove said Weaver earned another start. And I think that you are demeaning replacement level when you equate it to Weaver. Giving up 2 hits an inning while walking batters is terrible.
Good think Sexson worked hard to get off to a good start in April!
Way to go Miguel.
Should have gotten Damon, a little PFP next week Grover.
no dp and the run scores…the defense continues…
Nice DP, should be out of there with 0 runs though.
If the M’s get out of the game today allowing less than 6 runs consider it a victory. Our SP has proved itself to be terrible this week.
How much does your plate discipline have to suck for Rizzs to call you out for it? It’s hard to believe the Mariners have found out.
8 pitch-inning. I guess the Mariners have booked an early flight.
Not sure I can watch another depressing M’s game. 3 in a row with bad defense and no plate discipline might push me over the edge. Hold on, I got a six pack of Coors, play ball!
Good thing Turbo is batting 2nd. Always good to put speed in the 2 hole.
Any guesses on if, who and when we throw at today as retaliation? I think either Jeter late in the game or we wait until this weekend in Seattle.
DP Machine Batista!
41 – I hope they just drop it. Do we really want to continue this charade? It will make us look bad. As it is, Yankee players have already been suspended. No reason to have any of our guys sit out any games.
Unless they put Sexson on the mound……
Another double play, we just have to let the Yankees beat themselves to win.
Yay, a patient hitter.
For some reason, the ineptitude of Sexson just hit me today. What will it take to get a change at 1B?
WALKING! There is WALKING happening! Eeeeee!
36- washburn pitched pretty well yesterday…
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you your #2 hitter.
40 – Spoke too soon…..
Again, good thing there’s speed in the 2 hole.
ARRRrrrrrrrgh.
Really Joh?
Note to Joh: Settle down, take some pitches. Batting in the 3 hole doesn’t mean you don’t need to be patient.
Tuuuurrrboooooooooooooooo
so kenji gets moved up, sees two pitches, and hits too weak ass pop-ups…fanfuckingtastic…
I’m hoping Clemens made a big mistake coming to the AL and that he does a lot worse than he would have in the NL.
Yeah thanks Yes, we are aware that Clemens is playing for the Yankees, you don’t need to show newspaper articles to prove it to us. We believe you.
28- Not quite
Can anybody explain to me why Niehaus always gives way to a younger more energetic guy (sims, or (ugh) rizzs) after the fourth? Does he drink heavily?
Three misses, it’s like having three Bloomquists out there.
I hope Beltre gets angry for being moved into the 7th hole and bangs a dong or two today.
But, its the most dramatic news story since A-Rod had an amazing April! Why, I think that people from around the workd stopped what they were doing and fell to their knees in awe!
Well it used to be that Niehaus would switch to radio halfway through and the radio team would come to TV. I don’t know what the hell they’re doing these days–I feel like I haven’t actually heard Niehaus’s voice in the game itself.
I can write the rest of this game: hack, hack, pop-up, hack, pop-up. Walk. Hack, hack, pop-up. And people say baseball is boring.
At least we didn’t have to send our 26 million bid pitcher down to A ball today, makes me feel a little better.
Niehaus moves to the radio after the 3rd.
Batista at 97? Time to check the gun fellas…
right on the corner. grab some pine a-rod.
Is that two walks for Lopez?!
Yes, awful isn’t it? That is why he is stuck in the 9th hole.
Time to move Vidro down to the 8th hole!
he’s definitely not grounding out enough to be in the 2 hole
GameCenter says the weather there is “56°F – Sunny. Refreshingly cool. Wind: 5mph/N.” Sweet.
you know it is a Fairly Obvious Fact when Rizzs begins to comment that the Mariners need to make the pitcher work more.
Our only hope is that Batista makes it through the 7th without giving up any more runs and Morrow/Putz shuts the door.
Watching the Mariners bat is (Friday night excepted)a frustrating and, ultimately, worthless endeavor. It is just a matter of time until the Yankees score, and, from that point, they will never be headed. Get ready for more of the same when the M’s go to Motown.
62. Please re-word that.
well, they’ve flipped Dave on tv & radio as long as I can recall, rather than have a separate radio team and a tv team– I’m not sure why they decided to move the switch over to the 4th inning this year, unless Niehaus preferred having more radio time. Rizzs is staying on the radio side, in theory to ‘be more consistent’:
“Our goals were to be a little more consistent in our radio and TV booths,” said Randy Adamack, the team’s vice president of communications. “We took a look at the situation after the season, had some internal meetings with our broadcast partners and started to move on it.”
78- if beltre wants to angrily bang a dong or two, who are we to judge?
Again, does Dave Sims have to talk in an obviously glowing manner about the Yankees and Roger Clemens at every opportunity. As a Mariner fan, I don’t give a rip about Clemens. It seems almost as if Sims is auditioning for a later gig on YES. I am to the point where I am almost ready to clamor for Rick Rizzs, which I never thought I would say.
78 – OK I hope he jacks a couple fat balls today…..
and with that last scored Yankees run, we lose!
Please prove me wrong Mariners
82- jacking a couple fat balls isn’t much better…lol…
I suppose it is restoring the correct order of the universe that the Mariners are once again making a sad team healthy.
Baker with a Mateo update
Haha. Nice substitution, M_W_S_B.
what are the odds jeter hits a double here
and, if you keep reading down the entries, Baker also addresses the woeful offence and his pessimism about the M’s current record.
I hate Derek Jeter.
I have a terrible premonition that this is about to get really ugly.
Sweet, game over…
The bottom of the Fifth has a Little Big Horn feeling, and the Mariners are Custer’s calvery.
Did you know….? The Mariners have received 58 BB’s in 26 games prior to today, or an average of 2.23 BB/G. The last time an American League team received less than 2.25 BB/G occurred in 1909, when the Cleveland Naps received 283 BB’s in 155 games (1.82 BB/G). The next closest hack-masters were the 1920 Philadelphia A’s, with 352 BB’s in 156 G (2.25).
So far this year, the Mariners offense is historic. This is why a double-A pitcher can be called up and look effective against us.
3-2 bases loaded…….
Time to show some grit!!
FUNK GB TO 1ST!!!
the batters can’t draw a walk, but the pitchers sure can issue them
Nice, we might only go down 2-1.
Whewww. But it is even money that one run will beat us tonight.
Wow, that was…umm…clutch?
Think he still wants to play basketball? We will let him go no problem…
Good thing we got some minor league rookie bat bait pitching for the Yankees tonight. If they had a real pitcher we’d be in trouble.
We should forfeit the top half of innings so we don’t have to watch the train wreck that is the Mariners offense.
And the relentless beat of futility goes on……..
I usually hate to get into the negativism, but who should we give up for the yanks entire minor league pitching staff? Ichiro, Felix, both?
No blaming Batista if the M’s lose tonight. The M’s need something to get them going…a spark of some kind…Willie Boom Boom anyone?
Anyone for Sexson would be a start.
Ollie: It’s not like there’s another batter on their roster who’s been sitting around waiting for a chance to bat or anything.
Let’s be SURE not to put him in.
Only if everyone puts on hoods and saws his head off on a bad video feed.
I’ll share the sediment of other people here who all feel sick after listening to Dave Sims Roger Clemens/Yankees love. I wish he’d just stfu about it.
BTW I agree with Grover, it was cheesy.
It’s amazing, isn’t it? They spend the winter (several winters, actually) building a team without giving any thought to plate discipline, walk rates, and OBP.
And now, when they put that team on the field, they are shocked that the team has poor plate discipline, walk rate, and OBP.
Erin Andrews, you are quite to very gorgeous.
This offense, however…
wash yesterday and bautista tonight…if we had any offense, things would be a whole lot different…
I just flipped to ESPN and yes, this game is on there, too. Now I just have to decide the lesser evil between Sutcliffe and Dave Simms.
I am bored senseless.
109- You can teach plate discipline, thats bad coaching.
112- been watching on espn…they won’t stfu about clemens…
Not gonna happen. Hargrove has nerves of steel. A gut of titanium. A paunch of plutonium. A package of polyester. You can’t touch our guy.
batista deserves a W tonite, too bad our offense is AWFUL
Good outing for Batista, let’s not put it to complete waste hitters.
To be clutch, you’ve got to let some runners on. That way the opponent is all the more demoralized.
Tune in Wednesday night to see the Yanks on a national broadcast. Could be the last time all year…
DeSalvo isn’t going to be losing any games the way our offense is pitching. His pitch count could get up into the 150′s and we wouldn’t touch him.
And the runner ad… never mind
Sims sounded happy about Jeter throwing Guillen out.
Maybe he’s just as bored senseless as I am, and he is just happy that we’re another out closer to this series being over.
Or maybe I imagined it.
I think I’ll imagine Beltre hitting the ball right now.
If this is correct I assume you could provide a list of players who began their careers with poor plate discipline and then acquired it later as a result of good coaching? I’m not aware of too many of those.
Oops I forgot to imagine the part where the ball doesn’t get caught.
you’d think the fancy footwork displayed by the tightrope walking Batista would inspire them Ms to just a leeetle bit of offense … I’ll be interested to hear the explanation for why they couldn’t hit De Salvo. IIRC, it was all those first pitch strikes that Rasner baffled them with …
This offense is so pathetic it’s almost unbearable.
Someone should ‘splain that “plate discipline” doesn’t refer to how much you can pile on your dinner plate at the buffet. Deeeeepressing.
This is only a one run game and we have two innings left. Yet I would guess that many many fans have already given up.
124- Think they could make them un-historically awful. Tell them to take a pitch or two at least when there is a AAA kid throwing and the Yankees one weakness is the bullpen. This isn’t rocket science, just fundamental baseball.
Number of pitches per plate appearance, so far in 2007:
1. Cleveland 4.052
2. Oakland 3.946
3. Boston 3.891
4. Toronto 3.858
5. New York 3.855
6. Detroit 3.839
7. Texas 3.832
8. Kansas City 3.824
9. Tampa Bay 3.819
10. Chicago 3.783
11. Baltimore 3.733
12. Los Angeles 3.680
13. Minnesota 3.660
14. Seattle 3.605
I guess you could say that DeSalvo strangled the Mariners.
Weaver-Verlander – what a match-up!
The ESPN announcers are second guessing Hargrove.
25 innings, 2 runs, 2 XBH – does this constitute the improved offense that we heard about all offseason?
and here I restrained myself from going down that road.
I would too — Batista throws 108 pitches, struggling in the last two innings only giving up 2 runs total and you *LET* him throw more?
Batista gave us a gift. Take it.
As I watch the game, I’m constantly hitting my thumb with a hammer.
When the game is over, I’ll stop, and let you all know which is more of a relief. Next game: Having all of my teeth pulled out with no Novacaine.
Giving them more baserunners in a one run game with a bunch of no-control pitchers in the pen and the heart of the Yankee order coming up? WTF?
132
LOL…I wondered if someone would think of that. Just didn’t have the guts to write it myself
Unlike you, msb, I have no shame.
Let’s face it: this team just stinks, and not in an even entertaining way. The tedium is only broken by dropped flyballs, base running bluders, or swinging at 3-0 pitches. Watching this team is like being in a prison of one’s own making.
I think Batista is more pissed that he got left in the game…
132/140
hahahaha!
I didn’t get it the first time around.
Just be glad Hargrove doesn’t have Mateo available to bring in here when he needs a ground ball.
Shouldn’t Sherrill be in instead? Or are we “saving” him for when we take the lead (which naturally, will be half past never)
ralphmalph
VERY funny reference. Better only if he played for…well, you know.
of course, this is more like the victim tying the scarf around their own neck and handing the ends to the killer ….
It really is too bad that we hit like we’re dead from the neck up.
I mean you couldn’t ask for a better set up then facing the four pitchers that started in this series for NY. Even Wang should’ve been beatable since he’d been injured to start the year.
It just shows that no matter who you’re facing, a lousy, brainless approach at the plate with no patience or adjustments will get ya beat most of the time.
Sexson could have easily touched first base before throwing home and the inning is over…
I dunno. Seems to me it’s more like dying of natural causes with no drama whatsoever.
No Morrow for 1 1/3 till JJ? Assuming we grab the lead here at some point.
sutcliff (sp?) is praising the hargrove move to walk jeter and pull bautista…just hope reitsma makes it a reality…
HAHAHA! That’s almost as funny as the DeSalvo comment!
How did we ever score 15 runs Friday?
150- You forgot we don’t play smart defense. Could be a 1-1 game if Batista got Damon when he was stuck in no mans land in the first.
we had a one run lead…it’s all batista’s fault! lol…
OK, time for me to stop watching the game. There used to be a direct correlation between me mowing my lawn and the Mariners scoring runs. It’s a hail Mary, granted, but it’s all I can offer. Bye.
Just got in…Jose Lopez with 2 BB?? wow…is he making a plea to be the #2 hitter?
If Mientkiewicz scores before the double play is turned is he out or safe?
154- I thought about putting a rim shot behind it.
obviously it was a clever ploy by Torre to panic George into coughing up the $28 million for Roger
I know this is after the fact, and it’s kind of nitpicking, but with intentionally walking Jeter, Hargrove knew there was an important situation with multiple runners on base, the heart of the yankee lineup coming up, wouldn’t this have been the best time to bring in Putz, or at least Morrow? There was plenty of time to have either ready. At least for when A-Rod comes up, knowing Giambi and Matsui were to follow. They could pitch next inning too. If Morrow was going to pitch the eighth anyway like he should, why not bring him in then instead of Reitsma? Was Hargrove actually thinking it through that A-Rod could catch up to Morrow’s fastball, but that maybe Reitsma would be a better match? I can’t think of this being the case.
ooh, Farnsworth is in– now, he is an exciting guy in a baseball brawl
hargrove is probably throwing in the towel and saving morrow and putz for tomorrow…like we’re gonna have a lead in detroit…
TURBO!!!
Geez, I leave the room for a minute and there’s ALREADY two outs?
No wonder Grover dozes off (or so it seems) half the time…sigh
If we don’t PR for Vidro here I want Hargrove’s head on a stick.
Turbo charged!
Vidro can move when he needs to.
I’m tired of making shit-poor pitchers look great…good thing that we have a good starting rotation to balance our poor offense
Willie was out
He was out by a mile!
I might be crazy, but does Turbo have more infield hits than Ichiro? I know he has at least two, and I can’t remember many for Ichiro.
IGNITOR!!!!!!
he was waaaaay out…wasn’t he?
He was out for sure.
BREAK!!!!
Money bag!
thats grit…i hate Bloomquist
Rally ignited!
Lets use this!! If they give us second and we can’t score we are in trouble!! WE DID!!!
Haaa. Out by at least 59 feet.
YES!!!
FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha I’ll take it.
Is it just me, or has this been the way we’ve been getting runs all year long? Ump errors, fielding errors, ect?
100% grit ladies and gentlemen. 100% ignition.
i think that officially balances out the mike reilly game.
Should I feel guilty about that?
That’ll teach Bloomie to wait for pitches to steal!
Good job kid.
God. You get a gift. DONT SWING AT THE FIRST PITCH.
Aren’t we really just setting ourselves up for a late inning winning HR by a Yankee they can swoon over across the nation?
That was the anti-Mike Reilly.
Of course, being the M’s, we only tied the game.
160…he’s out. The only way a batter crossing the plate ahead of an out counts as a run is if there isn’t a force play involved.
maybe Roger could pinch-hit….
Yah..Rivera has been ‘lights out’…god, some ESPN guys are idiots
George Sherril is nasty.
Damn, my connection cut out, could someone please tell me exactly what happened?
Remember, if grit/ignition results in an erection lasting for 4 hours or more, you may be suffering from Priapism ( ‘being 18′ ) and should consult your physician.
sutcliff is giving a sob-story about “the kid not getting his first victory” because of the bad call on willie…i’m sure we’re all crying about it…douche…
The announcers need to get over it. nobody’s crying for DeSalvo.
The announcers act as if Posada pitched the game himself.
The announcers act as if they are on the Yankees payroll.
re: 199
turbo had a swinging bunt hit. Willie Ballgame came in to pinch run. Ran on the second or third pitch, Posada made a good throw threw him out, but Gerry Davis the 2b ump called him out. Joh singled scored Willie. The announcers are crying for DeSalvo because he lost his first big league Win.
does Rick think that De Salvo was masterfully handling the mighty Mariner offense, or something?
Damn, my connection cut out, could someone please tell me exactly what happened?
Bloomquist “stole” second base while being clearly, visibly tagged out feet before reaching the base. It was easy to see even on the live play. Ump Gerry Davis called him safe.
Johjima singled him in to tie the score.
do you think “the boss” pays these clowns to constantly kiss the collective yankee ass all night long?
190 – no way
weve been fucked over by the umps before, and we’ll get calls every now and then, thats baseball, it evens out
George of the Jungle!
Everyone has to admit…that offense that the Yankees put up to the plate is an all star team. Batista pitched a good game against them.
Jared
Are you on the YES network?
weve been fucked over by the umps before, and we’ll get calls every now and then, thats baseball, it evens out
But… but… “Some kid lost a victory because of that call.” – One of the announcers
Sherrill! He looks like a combined version of the Mythbusters. George’s arm is made from titanium.
205 thanks. I think DeSalvo has gotten enough luck today.
I thought ESPN did that …
Sexson, Guillen, Beltre
If that was 2003 Sexson, 2004 Guillen, 2004 Beltre I’d feel fairly confident.
209 – I usually don’t notice these things unless it was a little lopsided. It’ll probably even out over time, but early on the season it just seems as though we’re scoring off a lot of errors. The ump call is another example of scoring cheaply.
Maybe it’s just me. Kudos to us for taking advantage of it though.
216- Fox perfected it though.
I almost want the Yankees to win so I dont have to hear about the great injustice that befell the Yankees for the next week on Sportscenter.
and now, watch as the Mariners return Mariano Rivera to his former glory.
Christ, Richie…
Can we please pinch hit for Sexson the next time a game is on the line, he can get his AB’s through out the game. But once we need a hit, lets sit him down.
This is a random aside, but does anyone else thinks the guy who writes headlines for MLB.com hates all humanity?
Beltre! dslkj;fahdsklfsad
so unless beltre goes deep, i’s over
Just a question kind of late….did the ESPN ticker actually say that Batista was hitting 96 mph…since when does he throw 96?
BELTRE!!!!
FUNK BLAST
YEAH BABBABBABAABBAYYTYYY
HE JUST BANGED A BALL!!! :0!!!!
swung on and beltred!
Yo Adrian!
Beltréd!
if marbledog is out mowing the lawn, she is going to have the shortest grass in the state this season ….
Adrian bangs a dong!!
Adrian bangs a dong!!
OH YEAH!!!!! I CALLED THAT SHIT!!!!! GIVE THE BALL TO PUTZ!!!!
FUNK BLAST!!!
Rivera is on my fantasy team and I couldn’t be happier about that HR, let’s grit this game from the Yanks!
Holy shit! Way to go Beltre!
He’s *totally* worth his salary.
BEEEELTREEEEE!!!!! FUNK BLAST!!!!! GOOD BELTRE!!!!!!! He hit a fastball really hard!!!!!
Hargrove is a genius…puts Vidro in the 2 hole and he legs out an infield hit. Puts in Willie Boom Boom to pinch run and he swipes the bag. Drops Beltre to 7 and he hits the big home run.
Can you say Manager of the Year?
Marianowned?
And back the announcers go to talking about the Bloomquist stolen base…god..shut the fuck up!
Andren – Banging dongs is just what the doctor ordered!
One thing that is frustrating but doesn’t matter now, is the conversation about Putz warming up prior to the Beltre homer.
Sims: Putz warming up.
Blowers: Just in case.
Why the hell is it just in case?! If you don’t use him in unless you have a lead at this point, you have basically just taken out your best relief pitcher. Even if the score was still tied at 2, Putz should be in this game.
227- Saw it at 97 one pitch.
PUTZZZZZZZZZZZ TIME!
again, why is ellison in for guillen…ibanez is the worse of the two, and jose’s arm would stop a runner from taking an extra base…i’m baffled…anyone?
248- if your asking is anyone else baffled, yes we all are.
Ibanez is the designated Mariner for life. Its the only reason. It is a dumb reason.
212
Yeah
Throw that sinker for a DP JJ!
god damn we need a double play right here…
kinna cool to see they mixed the lineup putting Vidro @ #2 and Kenji @ #3 as I suggested earlier. But I still do not get why Sexson is hitting #5.
Captain Jeets up to save the day with a surefire hard-hit single. Possibly.
UNO MAS!
aargh!
Good God that throw by Betancourt was frightening!
Ugh
YES!!!! ~!!!!
WOOOOOOO!! GO M’s! We all knew the offense would pull through!
Well that was fun. 2 out of 4 from the Yanks? I’ll take it.
and instead of giving credit to jj, they say that abreu’s bat is “a little bit slow…” jesus chirst…but we’ll take the split in NY…yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!! half a game out!
wow
Putz wooooo
espn.com soon-to-be headline: “Ignitor Steals Victory From Yankees”
JJ!!!!
263: His bat was especially slow on that non-swing. I think the phrase they were looking for was “heavy” as in it cannot get off the shoulder. A slow bat, is Willie Ballgame not being able to catch up to a Tim Wakefield fastball.
no, Umpire Steals Victory from Deserving Yankees
no, Clemens is furious over Yankees losing deserving victory.
nice, emotional series…hopefully the staff continues the performances of wash and batista, tre’s homerun gives the offense some life, and we continue it in detroit…i’m out…
How about:
Willie B should play every day?
This game gives us some momentum for the Tigers series. We really needed that one, especially since we have the 3 worst starters on the team going. 1 of which, is the worst starter in MLB.
3 worst pitchers startiong the Detroit series…Felix Wednesday?
Nevermind just read the story on Felix
ya Ms!!!!!!!
Here’s a dumb question…is there a site that lists the rotations in their proper orders for every team in mlb?
Derek Jeter has been the beneficiary of so many out calls when he made swipe tags nowhere near runners trying to steal against the yankees that NO ONE needs to apologize for getting a call against the yankees for at least 5 years. The 2004 alcs was full of these plays. It was ridiculous.
Until Dave Roberts was called safe, it seemed like every Sox player stealing was shown to have actually been safe but called out by the umps after Jeter made some little Lovey Howell perfunctory wave with his glove in the general direction of the runner. It was to the point that our indignation as Red Sox fans turned to comic laughter at how pathetic it was.
Don’t apologize. And good going M’s!
Wah Red Sox.
I’m disappointed to not see IdahoInvader cheering Beltre’s big home run.
Sorry…I just see no justification in Red Sox fans ever whining and they do it a lot.
I talk about the Jeter fake tags in The Cheater’s Guide to Baseball!
I am a lifetime Yankee hater, and it was still obvious that 277 was written by a Red Sox fan long before you revealed it.
To all the Mariner fans bitching about the announcers fixating on the terrible call: Come on. It has nothing to do with Yankee-favoring bias in the media — which certainly exists — it was just a flat-out awful call, and it was the difference in the game. No matter how passionate a Mariner fan you are, you have to be able to acknowledge that, and not demand that announcers “shut the fuck up” about it. Wasn’t it just last night that the Yankee-loving media acknowledged that Proctor was an ass who deserved what he got? Try to keep some reasonable perspective.
More MLB.com headline goodness: (after one month of a 5 year contract) “Meche worth every penny to Royals”
Late inning pinch runner? No problem…
Goodness gracious, how did we get so lucky tonight? If the ump doesn’t blow that Bloomquist call at 2nd base, we don’t score that run in the 8th and there’s probably no way that Rivera blows a save situation in the 9th. I don’t know why, but usually closers are more focused when the game is 2-1, 7-5, 5-4, etc. (with their team in the lead) rather than when the game is tied.
Shush, Dylan…if Red Sox fans want to whine about how the media, the sports networks, and the baseball industry bow down before the mighty Yankee dollars, let them.
They’re usually right, when it comes to egregious “Yankee privilege”…bought and paid for, the corporate American Way.
# 282 – Thanks Scraps you are right on target, and, as usual, you make a lot of sense.
DMZ, you footnote about Jeter fake tags, IIRC.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byposition?pos=1B
this is pretty amazing.
AWESOME ENDING!!! I just got home from the game…and I called the Beltre HR when he stepped up after mouthing off with a few Yankee fans who taunted me with an original “Scoreboard” insult when it was 2-1…guess that worked out well for them.
Couple of things about that blown call:
- Posada doesn’t throw out a lot of baserunners. Perhaps the umps are so used to calling basestealers safe when they run on Posada that they make the call on autopilot, just like they call outs for Jeter’s phantom tags on DPs.
- Beltre was the third batter in the 9th. If Bloomquist is called out, Ibanez doesn’t come to bat in the 8th but leads off the 9th, followed by Sexson and Guillen. If they all are outs, Beltre never comes to the plate.
It’s great that the M’s have got a blown call go their way, because I can remember more than a few that went against them. But damn, that was really blown: I was calling him out as it happened — I didn’t even need to see the replay — so when the call was safe I started looking for a dropped ball or something else to explain it. Usually these things are close when they’re blown; it’s been a long time since I’ve seen a call that bad.
Also, do you realize if Beltre doesn’t hit the HR, and the game goes to extra innings, we now have Willie Bloomquist, Designated Hitter?
MLB.com has Robert Sherrill taking home the win
The thing is, Yankee privilege is real, but no one outside of Red Sox Nation needs to hear it from Red Sox fans, since they’re a financial powerhouse, and unsurpassed in media sympathy, challenged only by the Cubs (and since the Cubs generally suck, they usually aren’t as big and constant a story). Outside of the northeast only thing that comes close to being as sickening as the Yankees is the Red Sox. And while Yankee fans are arrogant, there is no fandom with a tiresome chip on their shoulder to rival the Red Sox (though at least their self-pity has been alleviated, leaving that field entirely to Cubs fandom).
Great game…Boom Boom got a call even though he stared at Posada the whole time he was running to second…
Since comments are off on the newest post, I just want to make one comment on it here.
This is a perfect illustration of why we need this blog. If it weren’t for our boys at USSM, no one would be there to call these disingenuous idiots in the front office on the load of bull they constantly try to feed us (we, the real fans).
I don’t pay for season tickets to be fed a turd sandwich even for off-field stuff. You want to hang Mateo out to dry, cut his ass for throwing BP to major league hitters in one-run games. Don’t lie to us when anyone who’s been paying attention knows that you’re full of shit. There is not one person in front office baseball ops that deserves our respect at this point. How about due process? Or is Chuck now judge, jury, and executioner? Julio may have done something bad, but Chuck needs to realize he’s sending a message to every player (and potential free agent) in the league when he puts a guy in the gallows for an accusation.
It’s bad enough our weather is awful, endorsement opportunities are few and far between, and our park drops HR’s and AVG substantially. The last thing we need is for the whole league to know that due process takes a back seat to ticket sales for Pitch n’ Stitch Night in Seattle.
I am disgusted.
Thank you, USSM. You are the voice of the real fans.
As legendary Yankee announcer Mel Allen used to say: “How ’bout that!” The M’s got very lucky tonight, but I’ll take it. It feels good to beat Rivera, finally.
DMZ is absolutely right about the hypocrisy of the Mariners. But, smb, with respect, the standard of proof under the law is stricter than the standard of proof for employers and employees, and it should be. If I employ a man that I am adequately convinced gave a woman stitches, I wouldn’t feel compelled to await due pocess before deciding I didn’t care to pay him money for his services anymore.
I couldn’t watch the game tonight, and for some reason GameDay wasn’t working for me, so all I know about Bloomquist’s SB was what I heard from our intrepid play-by-play guys.
Someone over at nyyfans.com did a screen capture of the Bloomquist steal blown call, and I have to admit, I burst out laughing when I saw how far away from the bag he was.
Considering 2 of the 10 all-time worst blown calls by umps/refs in a poll by ESPN were 1) the Jeffrey Maier fan-snatch of a ball Tony Tarasco was in position to catch (ump Rich Garcia) in that Orioles/Yanks playoff game years ago and 2) the phantom tag of Jose Offerman by Chuck Knoblauch in a crucial Red Sox/Yanks game, also years ago…I’d say what goes around, comes around.
Did the top ten not include Regiie Jackson getting away with sticking out his hip to nudge Bill Russell’s throw in the World Series? Maybe that was too long ago.
Scraps,
Point taken. My level of frustration grows to new heights as this team bumbles and fumbles its way to the cellar (or, God-willing, third place) every year. All joking aside, I don’t have the heart to blame The Igniter for the fact that he’s on the 25 man roster. Our problems go beyond his lack of talent, all the way to those who make the personnel decisions, basing such decisions on marketability over baseball talent-based value. If I have to watch “Big Richie” strike out twice on balls out of the strike zone to end two innings one more time, to be immediately followed by two “Big Richie”-centric commercials pimping a crappy give-away promotion night against the Royals or D-Rays, my head might explode like that guy in Scanners.
Excuses aside, the idea of organizational prerogative is absolutely central to the team’s future. This is perhaps a bad example, because Mateo has been pitching out of his league all season (and at least the latter half of last season), but maybe, just maybe, the points I make are unavoidable. The front office is defining the franchise here every time they open their pie-holes to the press…who will want to play for us if their agent is telling them the team won’t have their back in the event of a personal crisis? Hey, if I had my way, the situation never would have happened because Mateo would have been pitching in Tacoma or would have been traded in the first month of the season. But with reality such as it is, it’s undeniable that it looks like we’re hanging him out to dry, and conveniently as he hasn’t pitched well.
The issue of domestic abuse isn’t a joke. If Mateo wants to beat up on women, that’s more than enough reason to boot his ass from the organization, if there is reason enough to believe he is at fault. But his actions warrant a ten-day suspension and a trip to the minors? Shit, that’s not much worse than Igawa just got from the Yanks. If we’re going to make a statement about our standards of behavior, let’s make one that sticks. Like…Julio, you’re DONE in Seattle.
I see your point.
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LOL
I went to go play a few hours of hoops and came back to see if anyone called me out about Beltre. I heard it on XM on my way there.
Glad Scaps didn’t disappoint me and even more happy we stole one from the Skanks.
Someone recently told me that the five hardest outs are the bottom half of an inning in Yankee Stadium
Thanks, scraps, and I see yours. The rational truth must be somewhere left of my anger and frustration.
I grew up catching Dick’s burgers in Lake City on the way to the Dome to watch Langston or RJ pitch, sitting with my dad in the 300 level…grew up breathlessly watching Junior every time he came to the plate with that pantheon swing of his…grew up watching Edgar define plate discipline with every at-bat, only to head to the tunnel to take more cuts as soon as he crossed home plate…grew up watching Jay Buhner knowingly accepting seven years off his career playing on garbage turf just for one chance to stick it to the Yanks for trading him for Ken Phelps…grew up loving baseball with a team and ownership arguably incapable of contention.
I worked in ballpark ops for a couple of years, long enough to change the standings banners in the Dome before home games, hanging them with a more than generous amount of duct tape over the iron railings, often switching the M’s back and forth between last and third place…long enough to take a line drive to the back from Cecil Fielder during BP while trying to hang a promo banner over the vinyl outfield wall…long enough to work the speed pitch machine for nights on end, and hand out bats on the immortal Bat Night…long enough to help convert the stadium in time for the ‘Hawks game on Sunday, and long enough to answer Junior’s fan mail in 15-hour marathons in the old Occidental Kingdome warehouse, mail which was gathered in cardboard fridge boxes because his contract with Nike said the team wasn’t responsible for the volume of mail even though Nike never followed through…and ultimately long enough to hold the ribbon during the cutting ceremony before the inaugural game in July of ’99 at the Safe.
This team means a hell of a lot to me, as I’m sure it does to most of the USSM readers. Now, if they want to make family-friendly atmosphere and Beaver Cleaver player personalities more important than winning, then I can choose my games carefully and tone down my fan-dom to more reasonable expectations (and maybe even take on being a fan of an NL team that wants a title). But they need to cut out the disingenuous BS. The hypocrisy is inexcusable. This isn’t even a dog and pony show. It’s a mutt and mule show, now.
Part of it is on all of us, as fans. To a degree, they are only responding to our spending patterns. If we can finish in last and the team still pockets $30 million, what is the incentive to change course? We might as well be the Royals. It’s no secret that many front offices across the league consider the M’s a sleeping giant because of our fan base and relative reluctance to spend in conjunction with profitability. I am a charter member of the Cult of Doyle. I don’t mean to poison anyone against the front office because of how I feel, and I can’t give anyone a Sabre-metric analysis that empirically proves my frustrations, but I can share my intuitive certainty that this organization, as it now stands, is more about swindling us out of our hard-earned cash in support of their bottom line, and almost regardless of team performance, than it is about finally bringing us the World Series banner that we, as Mariners fans, so richly deserve.
That’s all the ranting I have in me for tonight, and it’s an accomplishment in my mind, given that we just split with the Yankees in NYC. I hope I speak for more than just myself when I express my frustration with a team that is more about profit margins than winning. God forbid the Cult of Doyle ever has cause to give way to the Cult of Arte Moreno.
smb’s rant just made me really appreciate the ussmariner guys, I discovered you guys through the seattle times blog which I think is defunct. I still remember my first M’s game, somewhat, it was against Detroit in 1986 and a fat lady stood up right in front of me to steal a foul ball. And as much as I hate these horribly managed M’s, who remembers the real Mr. Mariner, Alvin Davis? Yes, I am that guy that traded a Hoyt Wilhem card for 3 Alvin Davis cards.
I only go back to ’93 or so. I was raised a Padre fan. (low expectations! hehe)
As for blown calls, it’s not quite up there with some at the top of this list
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4148525.stm
Not as bad as the calls made in the game between the US and Japan or US vs. Mexico @ WBC last year.
Thanks for the rant, smb. I was thirteen when the Mariners came to Seattle. I lived and died — mostly died — with the fortunes of Larry Milbourne, Bill Stein, Craig Reynolds, and Ruuuuuuuupert Jones. I’ve been a fan since, but you’re a better fan than I am.
sigh. start off the morning with Mitch declaring Beltre is a zero (“have you seen his batting average? for that money he has to hit at least 300!”) — he plays ‘a nice third base’, but he is a bust.
thank you for educating the masses, Mitch.
You may all thank me for deciding to mow my lawn when I did. Works every time.
we did! though by the end of summer, you may not have any lawn left….
I love headline writers. With Torre suspended, M’s top Yanks
fwiw, I didn’t look at Armstrong’s quote as anything more than one of Chuck’s occasional outbursts– the way he will suddenly get all het up about something and shoot off his mouth — I’m sure in this case it was triggered by the all-too-real present of Mateo and the police report, which is a lot harder to ignore than abstract things you may hear about someone before they are signed…
msb, according to a poster over at nyyfans.com, apparently that headline had to be hastily changed
(there’s 8 very long bitter pages arguing about the blown 2B call):
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Up to the past 5 years when we moved to Oregon, we’ve been going to Mariners games since the mid-80s, despite living anywhere from 30 to 40 miles from town.
I’ve had the pleasure of the Jay Buhner/Junior Griffey/Randy Johnson (in all his ornery glory) era, been amazed at what Lou Piniella got out of the team during his years here, and been dismayed at the direction the team has gone since the opening of Safeco….Ichiro and 2001 notwithstanding.
I appreciate USSMariner as a solid anchor for us fan(atics), who can be volatile at times. And I’ll admit Dave and DMZ and JMB and Jeff are usually right even though sometimes I don’t agree with them at first or don’t quite understand their angst.
That was a spot-on rant, smb.
I see that some things are universal:
yeah, yeah, that’ll make all the difference
DMZ or Mr. Egaas, maybe one of you can answer this for me:
Derek, you posted “The Yankees, adjusted standings-wise, are 16-13, and the M’s are 11-15. Make of that what you will.”
This morning the Yankees appear to be 17-13 and the M’s either 12-15 (re: RS-RA) or 11-16 according to the BP Adjusted Standings link Mr. Egaas posted. How can the losers of yesterday’s game gain a W and the winners of yesterday’s game lose a W, according to the 2nd and 3rd order of W-L?
Jeez, #278. Too busy to treat people as individuals? If I whine a lot, then fine, tell me so. If I post one line in a game thread, probably my first post in a week or more on this site, and can’t remember posting a “whine”, you’re drastically overreacting and asserting your predisposition and nothing more.