Game 27, Mariners at Yankees

DMZ · May 7, 2007 at 3:30 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Miguel Batista v Emergency Starter DeSalvo.

Bloomquist likely to get another start, but he’s clutch, right, so he should be able to scratch this out.

The Yankees, adjusted standings-wise, are 16-13, and the M’s are 11-15. Make of that what you will.


314 Responses to “Game 27, Mariners at Yankees”

  1. IdahoInvader on May 7th, 2007 10:05 pm



    I went to go play a few hours of hoops and came back to see if anyone called me out about Beltre. I heard it on XM on my way there.

    Glad Scaps didn’t disappoint me and even more happy we stole one from the Skanks.


    Someone recently told me that the five hardest outs are the bottom half of an inning in Yankee Stadium

  2. smb on May 7th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Thanks, scraps, and I see yours. The rational truth must be somewhere left of my anger and frustration.

    I grew up catching Dick’s burgers in Lake City on the way to the Dome to watch Langston or RJ pitch, sitting with my dad in the 300 level…grew up breathlessly watching Junior every time he came to the plate with that pantheon swing of his…grew up watching Edgar define plate discipline with every at-bat, only to head to the tunnel to take more cuts as soon as he crossed home plate…grew up watching Jay Buhner knowingly accepting seven years off his career playing on garbage turf just for one chance to stick it to the Yanks for trading him for Ken Phelps…grew up loving baseball with a team and ownership arguably incapable of contention.

    I worked in ballpark ops for a couple of years, long enough to change the standings banners in the Dome before home games, hanging them with a more than generous amount of duct tape over the iron railings, often switching the M’s back and forth between last and third place…long enough to take a line drive to the back from Cecil Fielder during BP while trying to hang a promo banner over the vinyl outfield wall…long enough to work the speed pitch machine for nights on end, and hand out bats on the immortal Bat Night…long enough to help convert the stadium in time for the ‘Hawks game on Sunday, and long enough to answer Junior’s fan mail in 15-hour marathons in the old Occidental Kingdome warehouse, mail which was gathered in cardboard fridge boxes because his contract with Nike said the team wasn’t responsible for the volume of mail even though Nike never followed through…and ultimately long enough to hold the ribbon during the cutting ceremony before the inaugural game in July of ’99 at the Safe.

    This team means a hell of a lot to me, as I’m sure it does to most of the USSM readers. Now, if they want to make family-friendly atmosphere and Beaver Cleaver player personalities more important than winning, then I can choose my games carefully and tone down my fan-dom to more reasonable expectations (and maybe even take on being a fan of an NL team that wants a title). But they need to cut out the disingenuous BS. The hypocrisy is inexcusable. This isn’t even a dog and pony show. It’s a mutt and mule show, now.

    Part of it is on all of us, as fans. To a degree, they are only responding to our spending patterns. If we can finish in last and the team still pockets $30 million, what is the incentive to change course? We might as well be the Royals. It’s no secret that many front offices across the league consider the M’s a sleeping giant because of our fan base and relative reluctance to spend in conjunction with profitability. I am a charter member of the Cult of Doyle. I don’t mean to poison anyone against the front office because of how I feel, and I can’t give anyone a Sabre-metric analysis that empirically proves my frustrations, but I can share my intuitive certainty that this organization, as it now stands, is more about swindling us out of our hard-earned cash in support of their bottom line, and almost regardless of team performance, than it is about finally bringing us the World Series banner that we, as Mariners fans, so richly deserve.

    That’s all the ranting I have in me for tonight, and it’s an accomplishment in my mind, given that we just split with the Yankees in NYC. I hope I speak for more than just myself when I express my frustration with a team that is more about profit margins than winning. God forbid the Cult of Doyle ever has cause to give way to the Cult of Arte Moreno.

  3. awolfgang on May 7th, 2007 11:31 pm

    smb’s rant just made me really appreciate the ussmariner guys, I discovered you guys through the seattle times blog which I think is defunct. I still remember my first M’s game, somewhat, it was against Detroit in 1986 and a fat lady stood up right in front of me to steal a foul ball. And as much as I hate these horribly managed M’s, who remembers the real Mr. Mariner, Alvin Davis? Yes, I am that guy that traded a Hoyt Wilhem card for 3 Alvin Davis cards.

  4. planB on May 8th, 2007 12:15 am

    I only go back to ’93 or so. I was raised a Padre fan. (low expectations! hehe)

  5. colm on May 8th, 2007 12:22 am

    As for blown calls, it’s not quite up there with some at the top of this list

  6. Tak on May 8th, 2007 12:58 am

    Not as bad as the calls made in the game between the US and Japan or US vs. Mexico @ WBC last year.

  7. scraps on May 8th, 2007 6:02 am

    Thanks for the rant, smb. I was thirteen when the Mariners came to Seattle. I lived and died — mostly died — with the fortunes of Larry Milbourne, Bill Stein, Craig Reynolds, and Ruuuuuuuupert Jones. I’ve been a fan since, but you’re a better fan than I am.

  8. msb on May 8th, 2007 6:55 am

    sigh. start off the morning with Mitch declaring Beltre is a zero (“have you seen his batting average? for that money he has to hit at least 300!”) — he plays ‘a nice third base’, but he is a bust.

    thank you for educating the masses, Mitch.

  9. marbledog on May 8th, 2007 7:18 am

    You may all thank me for deciding to mow my lawn when I did. Works every time.

  10. msb on May 8th, 2007 7:44 am

    we did! though by the end of summer, you may not have any lawn left….

    I love headline writers. With Torre suspended, M’s top Yanks

    fwiw, I didn’t look at Armstrong’s quote as anything more than one of Chuck’s occasional outbursts– the way he will suddenly get all het up about something and shoot off his mouth — I’m sure in this case it was triggered by the all-too-real present of Mateo and the police report, which is a lot harder to ignore than abstract things you may hear about someone before they are signed…

  11. Karen on May 8th, 2007 8:50 am

    msb, according to a poster over at, apparently that headline had to be hastily changed

    Pistons drub Bulls for 2-0 lead
    With Torre suspended, Yanks top M’s
    Dale Jr. blasts Car of Tomorrow
    Live: Warriors-Jazz square off in Game 1
    Beckham 90210: Soccer star’s Posh digs

    (there’s 8 very long bitter pages arguing about the blown 2B call):


    Up to the past 5 years when we moved to Oregon, we’ve been going to Mariners games since the mid-80s, despite living anywhere from 30 to 40 miles from town.

    I’ve had the pleasure of the Jay Buhner/Junior Griffey/Randy Johnson (in all his ornery glory) era, been amazed at what Lou Piniella got out of the team during his years here, and been dismayed at the direction the team has gone since the opening of Safeco….Ichiro and 2001 notwithstanding.

    I appreciate USSMariner as a solid anchor for us fan(atics), who can be volatile at times. And I’ll admit Dave and DMZ and JMB and Jeff are usually right even though sometimes I don’t agree with them at first or don’t quite understand their angst. ๐Ÿ™‚

    That was a spot-on rant, smb.

  12. msb on May 8th, 2007 11:03 am

    I see that some things are universal:

    I agree with JDPNYY, we simply have no fire. Just like how we never throw at anyone, hardly ever argue calls, etc. This is why I want someone fiery as our next manager (I’m not calling for Torre’s job, just saying NEXT).. Girardi or Bowa.

    yeah, yeah, that’ll make all the difference ๐Ÿ™‚

  13. Karen on May 8th, 2007 12:41 pm

    DMZ or Mr. Egaas, maybe one of you can answer this for me:

    Derek, you posted “The Yankees, adjusted standings-wise, are 16-13, and the Mรขโ‚ฌโ„ขs are 11-15. Make of that what you will.”

    This morning the Yankees appear to be 17-13 and the M’s either 12-15 (re: RS-RA) or 11-16 according to the BP Adjusted Standings link Mr. Egaas posted. How can the losers of yesterday’s game gain a W and the winners of yesterday’s game lose a W, according to the 2nd and 3rd order of W-L?

  14. James T on May 8th, 2007 3:03 pm

    Jeez, #278. Too busy to treat people as individuals? If I whine a lot, then fine, tell me so. If I post one line in a game thread, probably my first post in a week or more on this site, and can’t remember posting a “whine”, you’re drastically overreacting and asserting your predisposition and nothing more.

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