Game 28, Mariners at Tigers
DMZ · May 8, 2007 at 3:37 pm · Filed Under Game Threads
HoRam v Bonderman. 4:05, FSN. Today’s contest: guess Sheffield’s line tonight.
M’s field Ichiro-Vidro-Ibanez-Sexson-Broussard-Beltre-Johjima-Betancourt-Lopez
Detroit bats Pudge leadoff!
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Not a bad line-up by Grover, by his standards. I think Richie could use the offday a lot more than Guillen, but at least Broussard’s playing.
My guess for Sheffield: 4 2 3 3
Sheffield 0 for 3 with two walks.
Sexson clean-up? Ugh.
Ibanez needs a day off so Ellison can play.
Horratious or Horatio Ramirez tonight? Wait same diff… Regradless GO M’s!
Yup, Pudge bats leadoff vs. Lefties and Granderson leadoff vs. Righties.
I don’t agree with all of Leyland’s moves, but at least he has the right idea instead of going with the same lineup every, single, day…
I disagree. Ibanez could DH for a game, maybe, but we gotta keep him in there.
Why the obsession with Ellison? He’s the black Willie Bloomquist.
Sheff: 0-3, 1 run, walk, K
Because everybody needs to play once in a great while. Two at-bats in 29 games is criminal neglect.
He’s not here to hit. He’s here to play defense and run.
Neither of which Ibanez can do, so why have Ibanez play 97 percent fo the time? His bat doesn’t outweigh his other shortcomings that much.
And Ellison is NOT an offensive black hole. He’s a .260 hitter with a few secondary skills.
Even Rene Rivera, who WAS an offensive black hole, got 15-20 starts last year. Why not 10-15 this year for Ellison?
Ibanez has to get a day off now and then. Everybody does. Given that, wouldn’t it be better to have the “face of the franchise” sit out a road game than a game at Safeco?
Not to mention Ibanez, not Guillen, is the one form whom Ellison should be the late-game defensive replacement.
Sheffield 2-3 double, single 1 rbi 1 bb 1 run scored and a k
Sheffield: 5 2 3 4 – one double, one HR
Yes, Ellison should sub for Ibanez, especially at Safeco. But I have given up on M’s management realizing this. They are convinced that Ibanez is a good fielder.
GO M’s! Let’s git r done.
Sheffield: 1-5, 2B, 2Ks
Ichiro 4-4 2 doubles a triple and a single with 1 hbp!
LMAO @ Tigers defense. You know you’re facing HoRam tonight right?
GO M’s! Let’s git r done.
We signed Larry the Cable Guy for extra grit on the bench?
They should know just to walk him the DP on Sexson…
They just referenced the champagne giveaway.
FUNK BLAST!
FUNK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still don’t like him…
Sexson!!!
love sexson…always have…just pray he gets out of this slump now…
Bonderman: a shell of his former self.
Woo! Funk Blast!
Let’s see how HoRam can blow solid run support this time!
After the 1st inning Dave N. pointed out he only has an ERA under 2, so it’s a good thing we got him when we did.
We’ll probably need at least another 3 run blast today since we’ve got the Jamie Moyer wannabe going today.
shut up pablo!
Sheffield 1/4 single
i love our middle infield
Y’know that three year contract, YuBet? That’s why you got it. Outstanding.
Nice snowcone catch there.
Sheffield will be 2/4 with a 2B and an RBI
Love our middle infielders, glad they will be around for the next 4 years.
both those balls would have gotten through in New York…or Anaheim…
So, did everyone else hear that Felix threw 50 pitches before this game, and feels good?
remember when sheffield said if he wanted to he could have 200+ hits every year, i think it was an SI interview. Basically saying ichiro wasn’t shit. Sheffield was just not that kind of hitter, would rather try to hit doubles and HR’s
what a dooshbag
Is it just me or is Ramirez actually throwing 93-94?
Completely unjustified Vidro hatred, Small Sample Size Version:
Vidro on 4/26/07: .319/.355/.417, .772 OPS
Vidro since then: .289/.357/.289, .646 OPS (0 XBH in 42 plate appearances)
Carl Everett, when he was released: .227/.297/.360, .657 OPS
PRESS RELEASE
SEATTLE — The term “Funk Blast” officially “jumped the shark” at 4:17 p.m. PST May 8.
In related news, the term “jumped the shark” jumped the shark sometime in the fall of 2002.
43 – you so crazy!
HoRam couldn’t throw 93 with hurricane force winds behind him.
Ahhhh, gun must be jacked up.
Damn, got my first FB in after it jumped the shark.
go m’s
45: Similarly, anyone who says, “Let’s think outside the box” is not thinking outside the box.
There goes the no-no…
There goes the shutout…
#49 Agreed – Who can forget “News outside the Box” on KIRO.
That worked well.
“bat flunks” is an anagram for “funk blast”.
So glad we gave up Soriano for him…not like we have 5+ of these guys in AAA
who needs a boring game where one team jumps out to an early lead and keeps pouring it on, never looking back anyway…
That’s a lot of doubles
Nice subterfuge, M’s. Let them think your pitcher sucks and then pour it on in the 8th inning!
Who’s doing color for the Tigers Tv, cause I want to strangle this homer.
Ramirez is quaking in his Nikes.
Last time, they gave him a 5 run lead in Boston, and he couldn’t hold it. This time, it’s 3 runs and no mas. I am not sure if Weaver is worse or Ho Ram is worse.
If your online casino had a proposition bet on “When will Detroit erase the M’s three run lead” and you chose “second inning,” you win!
Still only 29 pitches? At least Ho-Ram gives up leads efficiently.
Grover — “Ramirez your not a frigging power pitcher… if you throw one more ball down the middle of the plate that results in a double….you owe me 20 push-ups….”
57- That is the genius that is Grover.
I kinda feel bad for Mike Hargrove right now….he’s trying to keep his job but has to trot out guys like Weaver and Horacio..ugh.
Weaver is worse.
At least Ho Ram hasn’t walked anybody yet, but I guess his pitches are catching too much of the plate. Man, he’s terrible.
not much…he’s gutless
I’ve decided that it’s time for the Mariners to go on a home-run-hitting extravaganza! About ten of them or so should do the trick. By the sixth inning, please.
That was not what the token chick ordered.
FUNK WALK!
65: Hargrove and Bavasi are both on the hot seat. Heh.
so, they should just not score any runs for Horam? would that do the trick?
or just distract him during the offensive outbursts?
It’s about time for Beltre to whack another dong.
uh…
never mind.
Yuni!
let’s bunt them to death!!!
FUNK SPEED!
Nice lucky hit, Yuni!
Were those plays Inge should have made?
Jack some BALLS!
How soon Ho Ram will give up the lead again?
Is it me, or does Jose look thinner? That contract stipulation worked! His little potbelly seems to have disappeared, or did they just tailor his uniform better?
I didn’t realize that the Rangers traded Matt Kata to the Tigers.
I just read in the “Mariner Mailbag” that Niehaus gets 2 innings off. He apparently does 3 on TV, takes 2 off, and then does 4 on the radio. I didn’t realize that. Does anyone know what he does for 2 innings? Take a nap? Hammer down shots? Do eye exercises? What’s the deal with that? That’s just crazy.
You cursed them.
82. HoRam usually waits an inning before he gives up the lead.
Love the courtesy dive in right.
HoRam is mad that Weaver has a higher ERA than he does.
Ho Ram gave up the lead and then some in the next inning.
Ho just hates to hold the lead.
Lauren, I think you have to be more specific as to who you want jacking …
Weaver against Verlander. There’s a tough match-up for the Tigers.
A lot of 72 year olds take 2 innings off each day.
Beltre is awesome at third.
is it too soon for marbledog to mow the lawn again?
Ho Ram’s 15.09 Road ERA is Weaverstic, and it just dropped after this inning! His ERA for this game is ONLY 13.5!
89 – If he keeps up this current pace, he won’t be lower than Weaver for too long…
Did Ichiro give up on hitting to the opposite field?
bonderman = thats nasty
wonder if Dave’s new schedule was set before he had pneumonia this winter?
I’ve always thought for a USSM event, we should rent a suite. But it turns out food and beverages are extra.
sheffield blows
Still only at 56 pitches! We could have HoRam out here for several innings to come!
yay?
DMZ: So we bring our own. I’m sure the USSM faithful are past masters at smuggling into the ballpark.
True story: When we were teenagers, my best friend once smuggled a large pizza into a movie theater and shared it with us. Jeff’s got a big frame.
magglio on the other hand…1.036 OPS so far this year, and 28 rbi
I’d come all the way from Jersey for a USSM event. Well, maybe not, but I’d like to!
Why does HoRam tease us with innings like that?
Is anyone else seeing a giant, disembodied Rafael Soriano head in the sky right above HoRam right before every soft meat pitch he throws? I think I need a beer and a nap.
i once saw some guys get caught with a bottle in a pringles can …
If anyone cares, here’s what Schilling said about Bonds today:
“He admitted he used steroids. There’s no gray area. He admitted cheating on his wife, cheating on taxes and cheating on the game.”
And Curt Schilling has yet to admit that no one cares what he thinks.
Richie just gave a pitch selection clinic with that AB.
OK I know Schilling is an outspoken guy, but he’s just looking for press making statements like that.
What a headline hog.
Schilling has Arod syndrome. He can’t stop saying things that make people hate him/
I’ve always thought for a USSM event, we should rent a suite. But it turns out food and beverages are extra.
You sure? I swear the basic spread (hot dogs, popcorn, nacho chips) comes with the group suite package.
So when is the next feed? I need to get your trophy ordered.
WTF? TURBO BEN!!
Can we stop talking about Bonds and steroids? I just want to watch some baseball, and read some comments about how frickin’ speedy Broussard is.
FUNK SB!
That Beltre AB was very disappointing. That beautiful pitch right over the plate went by with the bat on his shoulder, then swinging wildly at low and away, then low and inside.
Didn’t he have to take it out of the box so there were no edges under his clothing? So you ate a pizza that had been pressed up against some husky boy’s back or belly?
Uh, ew.
funk ribbie
Man I love Johjima
120:
No. He kept the pizza in the box, and then pulled the box out from under his coat. He’s a big enough guy that no one noticed.
that was odd
Down by a run now. Do you run Ho Ram out there in the 6th?
Woot! Yuni has wheels!
TURBOJO!
Lets go J-Lo!
125: i wouldnt, but grover will
id like to see one of the seans (green/white) to try to eat up the 6th and 7th
I once smuggled some baby back ribs from Appleby’s into the Lord of the Rings. Best ribs ever.
If Ho-Ram is in there in the 6th you may as well count us completely out of this game.
I would run Morrow out to he mound
Bad K, Jose.
They don’t have Zumaya in their pen now, do they?
Has there been any update how the simulated game went for Felix today?
Ho Ram needs 1 more inning to try to strike somebody out.
Ho-Ram’s going to have a quick inning here.
130 – I guess that made you Lord of the Ribs.
Zumaya is out for awhile I think. Todd Jones is also a very overrated closer. We’ve got a shot in this game unless HoRam is HoRam…. he’s coming out in the 6th….
Well he only has 70 pitches thrown, but still. He throws junk.
138: hey on the other hand, Ho Ram hasn’t given up any walks this game. so it evens out.
135: The TV announcers said that Felix was throwing all of his pitches extremely well when they showed up at the ballpark.
FUNK MEATBALL!
135: yeah, they mentioned it on FSN before the game… said he did well, threw all his pitches, velocity 90ish (?), about 50 pitches… if anyone has a better source than my memory, please elaborate
Please stop with the funk BS. It is incredibly annoying.
FUNK ANNOYANCE!!!!
144: funk you
I love the Superbowl talk on how the ‘Hawks got ripped off. That’s just what I need right now to instill my confidence in Seattle sports.
he’s given up three runs in the 2nd, 4th, 6th?
Guess I jumped the shark on the FUNK comments, I will think more outside the box.
137: good call
It’s funny how the game and this thread are both ending at around the same time. And it’s only the 6th inning.
Who’s worse….Weaver or Ramirez…
Is Weaver available in the pen today? He would be an improvement.
No he wouldn’t be.
Maybe they could warm up Bobby Ayala
again, grover leaves a pitcher in for too long, when theres no reason to believe he has any chance of being effective into the 5th-6th-7th inning, this alone has pissed me off for the past year and a half to warrant grover’s firing
#152 Weaver 0-5 15.75 ERA speaks for itself…I still can’t believe this this bozo has a job. He makes Batista look like a Cy Young candidate.
It’s safe to assume that Horacio will never go an inning without letting at least one baserunner on.
Ho is better than Soriano how?
He is a Proven Major League Veteran Starting Pitcher.
147 – Sims is just trying to make up to Mariner fans for all the Yankee love he was distrubuting the last few days.
Too bad he doesn’t realize we are all tired of hearing about Superbowl XL.
Proven?
Hargrove leaves pitchers, especially starters, in longer than they ever should be left in.
PleasebringMesain . . . .pleasebringMesain . . . .
Man, this must be discouraging for the hitters, how they manage to scrap a run across, and have Ramirez give up another run…oh, jeez, I’m channeling the thoughts of Sims. Is that a bad or good thing? Although he didn’t have the nerve to say Ramirez specifically gives up the runs. Until a run comes as the result of a fielding error, it’s all pitcher, isn’t it?
I’m obsessed with this:
That must have been a pretty greasy pizza, to stay in position when held vertically. And would the guy have smelled? Anyway, I’ll let this go. I was a simple soda and candy bar in the purse gal. No such dreams of glory as pizza.
Only 2/3 inning late
re, Felix, both Jamie Burke who caught him and Rick Griffin gave the outing the thumbs up; 50 pitches in 3 pretend innings, lots of confidence from the young man.
hmm, the catering menu for the suites is interesting — and they give you the first $950.00
Well, the Ms scored two runs while I talked to my mom on the phone, and then gave up one when I started watching again.
Guess it’s time to walk the dogs.
And, DMZ, I’m down for a ussm suite. I’ll buy my own hot dog.
166: can’t wait till the King comes back. But even with the King, we still have to put 2 of the Ho Ram / Weaver / Baek out there every 5 days. That’s still horrible. On the other hand, Ho Ram’s home ERA is 1.5 something at home, maybe he could be the designated home starter, and Baek / Weaver share the other spot + start on the road on Ho Ram’s turn comes.
Can we get a Colter Bean from the Detroit bullpen?
No mo’ Ho(Ram), please.
There’s only one person in Seattle who’s glad Jeff Weaver pitches for the Mariners, and that’s Horacio Ramirez.
Seriously, has any pitcher’s horrible start been more blatantly obscured than this one? The guy now has an ERA of 7.62, and has given up five or more runs in four of his five starts — including SEVEN in each of the last two. And that doesn’t even include the pounding he took in the snow in Cleveland.
If Weaver didn’t suck so bad, we’d be calling for this guy’s head in a big way.
If Seattle is to be anything close to a contender in this division they MUST get another dependable starter. If they are still in the race a couple months from now (3-4 games or better), a move must be made.
#172–Make a deal NOW!
wouldn’t you think taking a few pitches to see what the new pitcher might have to offer is in order?
That would be nice, but the idiots in the FO won’t give up on these other losers probably until it’s too late.
Wow that was a nice pitch.
7 pitch inning. Are these guys just stupid?!?
By the way, how’s that extension to Ibanez looking right now? The guy’s got a Bret Boone dropoff written all over him.
That’s your 1-2-3 hitters ladies and gentlemen.
OK OK I really will go walk the dogs now. Sorry I waited.
sigh.
oh, and the way Rizzs pronounces ‘Horacio’ makes me insane.
I am going to go buy a dog to walk.
Is it just me, or does Sims seems just a little too excited about the other team’s big plays? I am getting very annoyed with this dude, although he is right when he said “Goodnight..” on Sheffield’s dinger.
Sad to see the team get some runs off a grade A starter, and have the game Holiciously lost by its own grade Z starter.
With the holes in Seattle’s pitching that are becoming horrifyingly apparent already, how the heck can you project this to be anything but a losing club for years and years to come? We got no decent prospects, we got no money to buy free agents (or not enough money) — what is there but to twist slowly in the wind?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team whose problems could be remedied so easily. There is simply no way you can win when you throw TWO different starters who give up 6 runs a game. Pick up a legit 2-3 and this team could be in contention in such a weak division. They would still be inconsistent at the plate, but this team can put up some runs. Imagine this team with Carlos Zambrano? It will never happen, but how pretty it could be.
Think I would take Magglios hair over his skills.
I vote we fans take up a collection to buy a decent #3 pitcher…
…Or #4….or #5….or maybe all of them.
#188–First, let’s take a collection to get the airfare to get HoRam and JeWeav out of town.
183-
Announcers should not be homers. They should announce the game impartially.
188 – #3? Hell, I’d take a decent #4 or 5 at this point. Something which we aren’t close to having. Just someone that will give us a chance to freakin win!
#191–I agree, but the exuberance of this guy for the other team is troubling.
Doyle = 2 for 2 so far in tonight’s game, now batting .462 for Oakland.
Doyle update – 2 for 2 w/ a run scored…
Doyle update- He isn’t a Mariner anymore, not going to be again…
196.
hahahahahahahaha. Point bhs.
Nice pitch, Sean. This one is over. Get ready for a 3 game sweep by the Tigers.
With the way this game is going, we probably won’t even get to see Detroit’s overrated closer, Mr. Todd Jones
Hate to say it, but with the pitchers we’re throwing at the Tigers this series I’ll be happy to get out of Detroit with 1 win.
Who is this Broussard guy? I can see why he doesn’t play…he is patient..doesn’t mesh with the team philosophy
Broussard needs a regular spot on this team. Why can’t he give Richie a spell at first base every once in a while and alternate DHing with Vidro?
BELTRE!
Probably a bit too much excitement for a single. I just love that guy.
Funk passed ball!
good swing at a 2-0 ball with two guys in scoring position, uhhh! Then fouls back ball 4!
Johjima up 2-0..has three of the worst swings I’ve ever seen
Great at bat Yubet…great at bat!
YUNI!
The anti Joh AB right there.
I think the only way the Mariners win this is if the Tigers put in Zumaya, ripped tendon and everything.
That could have been worse.
*hats rain down on field for Jose*
Jose not having the best of games…0-4 w/ 3 K’s and 5 LOB
Yuni
In New York, he’d be safe.
What does undressing a fielder with a ball mean anyways?
Wow.
What was Sheffield thinking?
Morrow seems to be mixing in more pitches, nice to see.
Break out the rally cap boys.
FUNK bunt Single!!!
Way to pick on the fat pitcher
I’m predicting a Vidro DP.
Has Ichiro ever bunted in that situation before?
Looks like the Tigers pitchers didn’t take enough PFP during Spring training…considering how much they sucked in the World Series
Ralph Malph
Sheffield was thinking: “I’m as good as when I was 26.”
NOW he’s thinking: “I was robbed.”
Leyland is thinking: “This is so locked up you want to pad your stats you f***!.”
I’m thinking: “Wow, I can read minds.”
Didn’t he do that in that first series against Oakland in ’01? He use to bunt a lot more, IIRC.
damn, nice grab
These are the saddest of possible words…
Now batting…designated hitter, Jose Vidro.
Note: Outfielders have definetely moved up when Vidro comes to the plate.
TUUUUURRRRRRRBOOOOOO
If the Mariners tie this game up, I’ll whack a dong.
Doyle OPS: .749
Vidro OPS: .704
Sexson vs Jones: 5 for 9, 3HR. At least, that’s what Rizzs keeps talking about on the radio…
FUNK BLAST???
216, think Cgharlie Brown pitching; line drive right at him …
229 I think these are the saddest
Now Batting Cleanup, Still… Richie Sexson
Nice catch.
Todd Jones- Luckiest closer ever…
Wow, this inning was unlucky.
Todd Jones with another luck save. What a bum!
That is official…we have no luck…i hate being a Mariner fan..help me Jack Daniels
242 – mmmm, Jack Daniels
242- Think we used it all up on that gritty call at second last night
I can see Monroe making a nice play..but Maggs? come on!!
Seriously though, HoRam sucks.
Really, really, truly, sucks.
And for those of you following along at home, Horacio Ramirez and Jeff Weaver have 10 starts, 0 innings pitched past the 6th, and 55 runs allowed.
Awesome roster moves, Bill.
So what’s the over under on Magglio hitting the DL tomorrow?
has his team given him anything to be exuberant about?
Todd Jones is going to be the first closer ever with 40 saves and a WHIP over 3 for the season. But he’ll still have the best chops in the league, too.
Way down at the bottom of Fox’s recap of this game, it notes that Felix threw a simulated game today and that the team was “encouraged.” I’m still, figuratively, holding my breath, though.
I miss Rafael Soriano. I miss Doyle. If Mateo wanted to smack someone around, it should have been Bavasi.
Trade Ichiro before he loses another step!
(insert quip comparing Ervin Santana to Johan Santana here)
Ervin Santana strikes out Travis Hafner 4 times. 4 times! In one game! He’s not a strikout pitcher! Hafner is not a strikout batter!
Didn’t he do that in that first series against Oakland in ‘01? He use to bunt a lot more, IIRC.
Opening day… Game winning rally…
I was there. It was pretty sweet.
Now I’m thinking that a random Felix day in 2007 might be my first game at the Safe since 2002. Eeeh… We have had some very non-enticing teams lately.
I predict that management will not be decisive on these two pitchers and dither away for at least another month, if not two.
What choice do they have? Any random AAA or AA pitcher is not likely to do any better at this point, and since these two are already earning Major League salaries, why not just let them slog through it? If things continue as they’ve been going, Ichiro may then be dealt at the deadline–there’s your two months–for more promising hurlers.
Well, you could assume that, or you could actually try to find out…
Not a good choice, but I actually think that there’s one or two arms that could suck less than Weaver/Ramirez…
Just thought I would post that there were 30,171 fans at the game last night and 30,170 Tigers fans. I was proud to represent our hometown boys. On that note Tigers fans are the worst I have yet to come across in all of baseball. Everyone yelling at me only did so once the Tigers took the lead and not a single one in my section could tell me that Alan Trammell was the manager before Jim Leyland. The bandwagon always has plenty of room.
It wouldn’t be all that hard to figure out what “over/under” actually means.
More unjustified Mariner hatred!
Mariner pitchers right now are dead last in the AL in Ks, and tied with the injury-decimated Yankees in K’s/G.
Felix coming back will help this some, but gee, maybe you SHOULDN’T build a pitching staff around guys who throw 88.
Weaver wasn’t good in his last start, but he was sufficiently better than his first three starts (which were abysmal) that he probably won himself some more time.
Which blows, by the way. If Felix had been available Weaver never would have seen that fourth start, but now we’ll suffer through Weaver probably several more times while they try to catch lightning in a bottle again.
I dispute the “better” part. He was in trouble in the second and the third, just like in his earlier starts, but got outs on balls in play instead of hits. He isn’t as bad as his 15.35 ERA would make you think, but he’s pretty horrible, and it’s not like his fastball improved, his control is improving, or so on.
He didn’t show me anything that I didn’t see before, except he can occasionally go 5-6 innings before he gets the crap beaten out of him. He’s not even doing the Ryan Franklin “hey, I can pitch quickly and eat innings when I’m getting killed” act, and I don’t need to SEE any more starts.
Weaver was awefully good against those Tigers in Game 5 of last year’s WS. Think he can shut them down again tomorrow?
263 – Yes, Weaver could benefit from residual confidence based off last year’s WS…until Sheffield ropes a ball 440 ft. that leaves the yard in 1.3 seconds.
Here’s the surprise of the day: