Game 47, Mariners at Angels

DMZ · May 28, 2007 at 5:12 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

Batista v Colon. 6:05, FSN. Dun dun dunnnnnnnnnn.

I’d like to declare, as today’s game thread benevolent dictator, just as an experiment, this thread a funk-free zone. Thanks for your understanding.

CF-L Ichiro
DH-B Vidro
RF-R Guillen
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
3B-R Beltre
SS-R Betancourt
2B-R Lopez


LF-B Willits
SS-R Cabrera
RF-R Guerrero
CF-B Matthews
1B-L Kotchman
2B-R Kendrick
C-R Napoli
DH-R Hillenbrand
3B-B Figgins



387 Responses to “Game 47, Mariners at Angels”

  1. lemonverbena on May 28th, 2007 8:59 pm

    c’mon Grover, get this guy out of there.

  2. G-Man on May 28th, 2007 8:59 pm

    349 – funny you say that. I dropped Richie from my fantasy team and picked up Carlos … who I have subsequently dropped for Youkolis. Yes, it’s a shallow league.

  3. bhsmarine on May 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    YAY US! Good way to start the series.

  4. fishiam on May 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    #345: I’m all for Sexson getting his act together of course. All I was doing was pointing out the obvious – Richie has sucked, in a huge way, thus far this year. And for $15.5 million/year he ought to be doing a great deal more than he has. These empty late home runs/RBIs of his are masking just how huge of a sucking void he has been. I don’t have current stats with me but I did a summary last week for some friends about how lame our 3/4/5 hitters had been (Richie key in there) and at the time they ranked 11th/13th/9th among the 14 AL teams in terms of OPS. Being a fan doesn’t mean you can’t rag on the lameness.

    And on that note: M’s win! M’s win! M’s win!

  5. robbbbbb on May 28th, 2007 9:04 pm

    And the M’s pick up one game on the Angels. Nice. 3.5 back. Two games to go in the series. And Felix gets a turn on Wednesday.

    All of a sudden, it feels like the M’s are in a pennant race.

  6. lemonverbena on May 28th, 2007 9:05 pm

    yeaaaaaarrghh! nice W.

  7. joser on May 28th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Sexson: .185 .289 .369 $14M
    Delgado: .234 .306 .359 $14.5M

    So far this year, it’s a wash.

  8. agingfan on May 28th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Fair enough. And may Sexson, Ibanez and Guillen all start hitting the crap out of the baseball. There are hopeful signs.

  9. joser on May 28th, 2007 9:11 pm

    “The Mariners moved three games over .500 for the first time since the end of the 2003 season. “

  10. pumpkinhead on May 28th, 2007 9:19 pm

    Rangers sure have been sucking it up. Hope they take at least one from the A’s.

  11. scraps on May 28th, 2007 9:27 pm

    I wish that folks who want to make a case that a player has “padded” their stats with “meaningless” production — I didn’t see the Angels walking off the field early — would back up what they say with information from Fangraphs, since it’s freely available, easily gathered, and actually addresses how a player does in clutch situations, at bat by at bat.

  12. kilroy on May 28th, 2007 9:37 pm

    is “Vern Fonk blast” ok?

  13. earinc on May 28th, 2007 9:43 pm

    Okay, I think the fu*k free zone must continue in tomorrow’s thread.

    And Batista should be banished, let’s not forget this in our angel-slaying delerium. Could Bavasi’s rotation-improving have gone *any* worse? It’s beyond the pale. He had three spots to fill that really shouldn’t have been that hard to get some cumulative improvement out of – those three spots were pretty weak last year. But he’s managed to spend a lot more money while getting worse at each (Baek notwithstanding). How can Bavasi *not* get fired for this? They were questionable acquisitions when he made them and they look even worse in hindsight. Bloomquist’s average is higher than Bavasi’s right now.

    I’m not calling for or expecting a mid-season firing of Bavasi. I’m just sayin’. Even if this team wins the divison or wild card, it won’t be because of Bavasi’s offseason moves, with the possible exception of Guillen, and Guillen’s success hardly outweighs the disaster that has been Bavasi’s pitching staff “upgrades”.

    When Batista, Ramirez or Weaver take the mound, the M’s should just accept the fact that they’re going to give up at least four runs after two innings and actually tell the other team in advance that they’re going to do this on purpose, as a means of psyching them out. Guillen could have told the media beforehand tonight that the M’s were going to spot the Angels a few runs just to make things interesting, since the M’s offense has been on such a tear. This will totally confuse Scoscia. Scoscia, ever the sportsmas, might even refuse to accept this bounty and tell his pitchers to reciprocate. This could work, I’m trying to make lemonade out of lemons here.

    Anyway, this roster is such a strange construct. And then there’s what we gave up this offseason, in Soriano and Snelling, and the fact that we’ve had to rush Morrow’s development as a result. Yet we can’t even put guys like Adam Jones to use.

    I hate to sound so cranky after such a great win! Go M’s! But I’m so tired of hearing the announcers blindly praise/apologize for guys like Sexson and Vidro and Batista and am afraid that the only downside to the M’s competing right now is that it’s giving the illusion that Hargrove and Bavasi are actually excelling at their jobs. The longer these guys are around the less bright our future looks, IMHO, no matter what happens this season.

    Let’s go M’s!

  14. Rick L on May 28th, 2007 9:54 pm

    We got 15 hits and no walks. Amazing.

  15. earinc on May 28th, 2007 10:02 pm

    Seeing my post now, I apologize for my boorish rant. Anyway, go Texas! Oakland’s up 5-3 in the 9th…

  16. fishiam on May 28th, 2007 10:08 pm

    361: I provided some stats but apparently not current or cogent enough for you. If you wish to refute my point, perhaps you could delve into those easy to access stats and show me that my premise is incorrect: Richie Sexson doesn’t bring much to the Mariner’s table … despite being the highest paid player we have. You want to defend him: show me the stats.

  17. on May 28th, 2007 10:08 pm

    robbbbbb: I’ll give you that Geico is milking those commercials a bit, but if you don’t think that the Caveman airport runway commercial is funny, well, I don’t know what to tell you.

  18. on May 28th, 2007 10:14 pm

    In fact, I would argue that the Geico airport ad and the Labron diving slow-mo into the pool ad are the two best tv commercials I’ve seen in a while. Yes, I probably have too much free time…

  19. Axtell on May 28th, 2007 10:21 pm


    The best commercial I’ve seen in a long time is the ESPN fantasy football league one, where the guy is trying to pronounce ‘Houshmandzadeh’…’T.J….whos yer momma’…hilarious stuff.

    Great win tonight, and I see Sexson is dangerously close to the Mendoza line….200 or bust!

  20. skipj on May 28th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Didn’t Angie used to be a babe? I know she had a kid, but she is larger and better upholstered than ny sofa.

  21. smb on May 28th, 2007 10:22 pm

    NO! She’s packin’ heat. Can’t you tell?

    She has Bosworth’s shoulders, too.

  22. gwangung on May 28th, 2007 10:22 pm

    361: I provided some stats but apparently not current or cogent enough for you. If you wish to refute my point, perhaps you could delve into those easy to access stats and show me that my premise is incorrect:

    You could go here.

    May or may not support your point…but they’re more precise, I think.

  23. AuburnM on May 28th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Batista – good enough, barely. He still worries me.


    ONE back in the loss column.

    Guess what? WE DON’T SUCK.

  24. on May 28th, 2007 10:41 pm

    “WE DON’T SUCK.” god that is refreshing! I’m still kinda waiting for the other shoe to drop, if only b/c it’s a protection mechanism, but this is NICE! Let’s Go M’s!

  25. gwangung on May 28th, 2007 10:53 pm

    Hm. I don’t think we suck…but I’m not sure we’re very good.

    Beats the last few years…but not much bang for the buck, and I think we still need to take steps…

  26. Slippery Elmer on May 28th, 2007 11:01 pm


    Does the fact that the Yankees suck so much serve to “inflate” the records of the other AL teams? I mean, if the M’s and Angels had played the 2000-2006 Yankees this year instead of the 2007 version, their records against NY would undoubtedly be much less advantageous. However, since NY really is decimated by karma, injury, and age this season, are the Angela and M’s actually a little worse than they might currently appear, because they were treated to a depleted assailment by their East-coast opponent?

  27. Dave in Palo Alto on May 28th, 2007 11:13 pm

    376 — You’re making my head assplode. Like Detroit didn’t “inflate” in years past? And, and . . . . .

  28. lemonverbena on May 28th, 2007 11:46 pm

    “…three games above .500 for the first time since 2003.”

    wow. that’s a lot of bad baseball.

  29. DMZ on May 28th, 2007 11:55 pm

    w/r/t provability — it’s the responsibility of the person making the assumption to provide evidence. If you’re challenged on something you said about Sexson because you provided no proof, that’s your own burden.

  30. SexsonPower on May 28th, 2007 11:56 pm

    Ok the f – blast better be back in effect tommorow. I mean look at how much fun I missed out on today. Beltre 2 HR’s, Guillen and Sexson Hr.

    If this site feels its above the f – blast. Then please show me a mariners site that is not above the fun and pure joy of writing f- blast when the mariner gladiators I root for kindly deposit the ball over the fence!

    Upon saying that i enjoy this site and Go M’s. 3.5 back in the al west race. A win tommorow would be so Big for this team.

  31. dw on May 28th, 2007 11:57 pm

    The wife and I came up with the right adjective to describe the 2007 M’s: Laodicean.

    Neither great nor awful, just lukewarm.

  32. DMZ on May 29th, 2007 1:06 am

    “above the funk blast”

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, that’s the issue.

  33. fishiam on May 29th, 2007 7:38 am

    363/379. Concerning Sexson, here are the type of stats I refer to. Of the 14 qualified first basemen in AL, Sexson is:

    11th/13th in WPA (at -0.31)
    11th/13th in OPS (at 0.658)
    5th/13th in RBI (at 30). Take away the six of the previous late innning add on variety, he falls to 10th/13th.

    There’s room for improvement there.

  34. gwangung on May 29th, 2007 7:44 am

    Ok the f – blast better be back in effect tommorow

    But what if banning the f– blast CAUSED that power surge? What then, smart guy? Huh? Huh?

  35. msb on May 29th, 2007 8:15 am

    NO! She’s packin’ heat.

    now that is a euphemism I hadn’t heard before …

    She has Bosworth’s shoulders, too.

    it’s the jackets.

  36. joser on May 29th, 2007 9:41 am

    Hmmm, if talking about a no-hitter/perfect game can ruin it, then talking about the fblast….

    First rule of ₣џиΣ Blast: Nobody talks about ₣џиΣ Blast

  37. Lauren, token chick on May 29th, 2007 9:49 am

    Huzzah for the funk ban, says I. But I want to keep the smooth jazz strikeout.

    3.5 games back!

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