Weaver set to return to the rotation

DMZ · May 31, 2007 at 12:51 am · Filed Under Mariners 



If you weren’t down after today’s game, well check this out!

From the PI:

Tuesday, manager Mike Hargrove said he wanted Weaver to face some live batters in game competition. But when Weaver declined to go to the minor leagues for a rehab start, the issue became pitch count.

Weaver, who threw a simulated game Monday, will throw a bullpen session Thursday in Seattle before the Mariners open a homestand with a game against Texas. He’ll then throw another simulated game Sunday, the last day of the series against the Rangers.


With the second simulated game behind him, Weaver will go back into the rotation, Hargrove said Wednesday.

I’m looking at my old CBA (helpfully provided by the MLBPA) and I’m not seeing the exact rule I want to quote, but then I’m tired.

I don’t understand why Weaver would want to do this, though, or why the team wants him back in the rotation. It seems like until they can tell that he’s a better option than anyone currently in the rotation, they would want to hold off. And for Weaver, he draws salary whether he’s getting rocked in the majors or the minors, and he’s likely to get a better view on his suitability to return to action in the minors than side sessions. The only reason I can see for him to refuse a minor league rehab assignment is if Weaver believes… I don’t know. That the minors are that horrible?

I don’t get it. And I don’t look forward to it.


61 Responses to “Weaver set to return to the rotation”

  1. Bearman on May 31st, 2007 1:57 pm

    I’ve come to conclusion that it’s once again a decision of contract over talent and club’s best interest.

    Bavasi trying everything in his power to show he’d make another late offseason signing that now needs to be DFAed and the club’s on the hook for the remainer of a 8.3 mil dollar salary.

    Hopefully two more starts and the jig will be up and Bavasi will have no choice but to DFA Weaver and hopefully will transfer Ramiez to the 60 day DL.

    I had suggest the best possible options late before ST was Redman,Wolf,Jason Johnson in FA and via trade Jennings of or formerly of Colorado.

    I also stated for about the money given to Weaver the M’s could have aquired Mulder and used him as long to middle relief til his arm was sound and strong enough to start.

    Til then either Feierabend or Lehr could have worked the slot in the back of the rotation and at far less money than even Ramirez.

    This is just another reason for Bavasi to be fired and replaced by:
    Bob Engle
    Chris Antonetti
    however not Cashman he just window dressing in NY and a fall guy for Steinbrunner who really makes the decisions and the moves.
    Also Hargrove must be out of the job soon and replaced in the interim by McClaren and the ownership needs to pursue the following if McClaren isn’t the choice in fact:
    Joe Giridi
    Ken Macha
    Tony Pena Sr.
    maybe Bobby Valentine

  2. Ralph Malph on May 31st, 2007 2:14 pm

    They can’t send him down without his OK either.

  3. wabbles on May 31st, 2007 2:20 pm

    I’ve just closed my eyes again
    Climbed aboard the Scream Weaver Train
    Driver take away my hopes for the game today
    And leave the mangled bullpen behind

    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    Cursing and drinking to get me through tonight
    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    When is Bavasi going to see the light?

    Your pitches flying through the starry skies
    Maybe to an astral plane
    This is every benchwarmer’s fantasy
    Help me to forget today’s pain

    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    Cursing and drinking to get me through tonight
    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    Getting a pounded by the Royals really is a sight

    But now the DFA is coming soon
    We all know it’s past time
    Carry you away to the bright side of the moon
    I want you playing for the other side

    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    Cursing and drinking to get me through tonight
    Ooh, scream “Weaver!”
    When is Bavasi going to see the light?

  4. Evan on May 31st, 2007 2:21 pm

    That’s brilliant, wabbles.

  5. Evan on May 31st, 2007 2:22 pm

    I fear I must take issue with Bearman’s selection of field managers. And I actually think Cashman would be prettty cool.

  6. Benno on May 31st, 2007 3:12 pm

    I just realized the greivance issue actually is not an issue. Since the money is guaranteed, Weaver would be drawing the paycheck regardless if he was injured or not. There may be an issue with placing him on the DL, but as has been mantioed before, it isn’t the first time a team has done this. The only thing that could be lost from DFA is someone’s pride. Weaver is the new definition of a “Sunk Cost”.

  7. Bearman on May 31st, 2007 3:42 pm

    Evan they are just suggestions of a beginning list however I’d love to see if fired Ron Washington given the job.He has here at least a solid bullpen with a least a half of a consistent rotation along with a way better D and a easily corrected offence.

    With Washington you’ll see the BB being used as offensive weapon with just enough swingers in the order to spell RBIs.
    As to Cashman if he was a true GM why is it Torre brings his player need list to Steinbrunner first?
    Think about it.

    I agree Benno I don’t think it’s aunion matter with Weaver but more of one of Bavasi having to admit he screwed the pooch in signing him as he had to with so many others Everett,Spiezio etc…..
    With exception of Johjima,Burke,Guillen and maybe Washburn quite frankly the wasted contracts outweight the good ones.

    Trades don’t get me started with those!!!! However with the Broussard deal is decent,the recent Davis one as well,and even the Vidro deal is paying off a little since Fruto is still at AAA with the Nationals.
    Snelling has since been traded to the A’s and has returned to the DL not long after arriving I understand.

    As to moving onto the 60 day DL may prove diffcult cause of his relative health and readiness to pitch again.
    Ramirez should be placed on that list so the M’s can either recall and retain Feierabend in the rotation or bring up Lehr and have a spot for him on the 40 man roster.

  8. SpokaneMsFan on May 31st, 2007 3:51 pm

    Thanks Wabbles, needed that laugh.

  9. tangotiger on May 31st, 2007 4:18 pm

    If you guys haven’t been looking, Rafael Soriano is #1 in WPA:


  10. joser on May 31st, 2007 4:52 pm

    And in a single post Bearman not only indulges in the retro-rosterbation offseason shoulda-coulda, he also invents an entirely new form of rosterbation: the managerkoff.

  11. Paul B on June 1st, 2007 9:10 am

    Before they bring Weaver off the DL, did they even see if his arm was stronger? They should be able to tell in the bullpen if he can now throw faster than he was in games. If not, what’s the point?

    As Dave pointed out probably a month or more ago, Weaver doesn’t have enough movement on his pitches to get by with slow stuff.

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