Game 57, Mariners at Padres

DMZ · June 8, 2007 at 5:51 pm · Filed Under Game Threads 

After an off day, I hope you’re as excited to see some baseball my dear and unfortunately duped readers. Not exciting baseball (Lincecum in Oakland tonight!) but it has its charms:

Batista’s put together a string of not-disastrous starts since his May 12th drubbing at the hands of the Yankees. To compete, the M’s desperately need Batista to at least put up those kind of performances: get six innings in, keep the game under control. It may not be what they hired him on for, but they need the starting pitching to compete.

Fortunately, he’s up against the Padres, who are not a particularly good-hitting team. Even taking park effects into consideration, they’re not good.

Unfortunately, he’s up against Germano, who’s done quite well for himself so far. But the Mariners – they can hit this year. But then Germano’s right-handed, and the M’s aren’t as good against righties. Interestingly, though, the potential swap of Vidro-for-Sexson isn’t nearly the win it might seem. At least this year, while Vidro’s OBP v RHP (.339) is better than Sexson’s (.290)(ugh), Sexson’s decent power when he makes contact makes them a wash offensively. Even more interestingly, now that I look at those splits, is how badly Guillen’s done against righties. He’s hitting .240/.305/.367. That’s low. For a corner outfielder, too.

That’s likely not going to hang around: over the last three years, he’s hit righties better than lefties. Still, it’s weird to think that Guillen’s reasonable performance so far this year is due in such great part to his hitting left-handed pitching so well.

The really interesting thing, of course, is what happens if Hargrove, who seems somewhat bent on shoving Vidro, the team’s third-worst regular hitter (Sexson, Ibanez)(and it’s more like tied-for-second-worst, really), into the lineup, he may well do it at the expense of a lot of hitting and defense at third, less hitting and defense at second, or more or less a wash at first.

Which brings us to another point sometimes brought up in comments. Vidro’s 54 games into the year, he’s got 224 at-bats, 19 walks (11 GIDPs, 9 extra-base hits). At this point last year, Carl Everett had played in 54 games of 57, had 219 at-bats, 22 walks (5 GIDPs, 14 XBH).

Turbo: .290/.344/.357
Jurassic: .257/.338/.403

Carl Everett was, at this point in the season last year, having a better year than Jose Vidro is. You give up six points of OBP to get 43 points of SLG. At least Turbo isn’t quite as expens– ooooooh, right.

Lineups when they’re posted. I’m so excited to see them. Go for it, Hargrove! Be crazy!

Hot update! Hargrove chickens out! Buck-buck-ba-gaawwwwkkkkk! Isn’t baseball intended to be entertaining?

CF-L Ichiro!
2B-R Lopez
RF-R Guillen
LF-L Ibanez
1B-R Sexson
C-R Johjima
3B-R Beltre
SS-R Betancourt

Comments

423 Responses to “Game 57, Mariners at Padres”

  1. billT on June 8th, 2007 5:55 pm

    I read the book on a flight from Seattle to Chicago this week, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I don’t know what’s wrong with that guy. I hope you get the chance to write another book at some point.

  2. CSG on June 8th, 2007 6:05 pm

    Derek, I’m so tired of your “theories” and “facts”.

    And I’m really hoping we can make it through interleague play without being exposed to the atrocity also known as Vidro playing second base.

  3. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:05 pm

    In the nine-hole, Batista is a career .095/.128/.134 hitter, with two career home runs.

  4. CSG on June 8th, 2007 6:13 pm

    Batista’s career ISO is actually better than Bloomquist’s this season.

  5. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 6:15 pm

    Darn! I was hoping for the comedy of Vidro at 2nd! Almost as good as Spiezio at 2nd for one game in 2005! But, alas, Hargrove disappoints. :-(

  6. CSG on June 8th, 2007 6:17 pm

    Sexson playing left field at Safeco would be the worst of all. I can’t believe they seriously discussed that.

  7. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:19 pm

    David J. Corcoran has a career .095/.128/.134 college blood-alcohol level.

  8. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 6:30 pm

    “Tell your statistics to shut up.” — Charley Brown (or maybe it was the Pilots manager as quoted in Ball 4, I forget).

  9. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:32 pm

    And the Ball Four reference brings it around to book reviews. Nice.

  10. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 6:34 pm

    Where’s Batista batting in there?

  11. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:35 pm

    9th.

  12. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 6:36 pm

    Welcome back Beltre, maybe we can get some ignition another day.

    How long does Ibanez (.376 Slg) have to continue to hit like Vidro (.357 Slg) to get moved from the cleanup role? I think he is just old and he isn’t coming out of it, I predict he won’t be above .450 Slg the rest of the year.

  13. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 6:36 pm

    Detroit loses! We’ve already gained on the wild card, and we didn’t even do anything!

  14. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:40 pm

    Ibanez’s power isn’t coming back. He’s passed the point of no-small-sample-size return.

  15. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 6:45 pm

    OK, I missed something, how have I been duped? I take it there was an unfavorable review of the book somewhere. I checked the Blog and Amazon and didn’t see it.

  16. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:47 pm

    Click the link there. All those positive reviews are people I’m conning somehow.

    On Ibanez: I’m willing to wait. The injury explanation may not ending up holding up, but they need a left-handed bat, and bad, and if he can provide, all the better.

  17. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:48 pm

    But do the Mariners need to wait him out in the middle of the lineup? (Granted, there’s nobody else available that the M’s would consider, but ….)

  18. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 6:48 pm

    I’ll wait on Ibanez too, I just wish Hargrove wasn’t such a dweeb to keep running him out there batting 4th every game while he is struggling.

  19. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:49 pm

    I agree. DMZ not only tricked me into buying a copy, he tricked me into getting four free copies from his publisher. You wily mofo, you!

  20. AQ on June 8th, 2007 6:51 pm

    #16 – I heard a nasty rumor that Thomas Lester’s middle name is “Mo”..

  21. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 6:52 pm

    Don’t look now, but Philly.com has posted a story indicating that Gillick might return after the end of the season. Gillick’s denials are accompanied by a couple of points, such as Pat buying a home here in the off-season, which might indicate a return.

    Fire – Frying Pan?

  22. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:52 pm

    Now now.

  23. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 6:52 pm

    I would swap him with Joh or Beltre, prefer the second due to Johjima’s speed and DP possibility. There is no reason to have him struggle at cleanup until he finds his power.

  24. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:53 pm

    The team’s recent contention has convinced him he can do another pump-and-dump? Dear Lord. I’ll throw up if that’s announced.

  25. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 6:53 pm

    Oh, should he be batting cleanup? No. That’s a whole other thing. But I’m a fanatic lineup guy.

  26. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 6:55 pm

    Is there really a person named Vern Fonk?

  27. AQ on June 8th, 2007 6:57 pm

    #21 – Oh great, now that the farm system is starting to recover, he wants to come back and trade all of our prospects?

  28. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 6:57 pm

    I’ll just say this: Pat Gillick is 70 years old. Old people have accidents all the time.

  29. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 6:57 pm

    Re: Gillick… It’s a rumor, and you know how those are. I just thought that on balance, Gillick’s denials weren’t convincing. They mentioned him possibly as part of a new ownership, and frankly, that seems to make the rumor less believable.

  30. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 7:00 pm

    If my LF and DH each had a slg of .370, I’d be panicky looking for ways to get different guys in the lineup.

    Hargrove, he just keeps running them out there and seems to not notice.

  31. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 7:03 pm

    If this worked correctly, my handle should link to the story.

  32. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 7:04 pm

    Fixed

  33. Mike Snow on June 8th, 2007 7:04 pm

    Derek, I’m so tired of your “theories” and “facts”.

    Yeah, me too, but what’s “heresay”?

  34. Mike Snow on June 8th, 2007 7:05 pm

    Answering my own question, I suppose it’s a cross between hearsay and heresy.

  35. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 7:05 pm

    Okay, I give up. Add an “m” to the back of the URL on the error page and you’re there. WordPress won’t let me fix it.

  36. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Interesting second-day draft item:

    “Seattle’s other second-day draftee of note was Rod Scurry from the University of Nevada, son of former Pirates, Yankees and Mariners reliever Rod Scurry. The younger Scurry is 6-7 and, yes, another right-hander.

  37. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:09 pm

    Rod Sr., who died of a drug overdose in 1993, was a lefty.

  38. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:10 pm

    Go M’s! Beat our hated and feared rivals!

  39. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:11 pm

    I love how Ichiro makes it look so easy.

  40. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:11 pm

    (Re)Sign that boy up!

  41. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:12 pm

    Damn … what’s gotten in Jorge Sosa?

  42. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:13 pm

    I love how Mike Cameron makes it look so easy.

  43. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:13 pm

    Ah, Cammy. We miss your fielding.

  44. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:14 pm

    “Moskos is who we’re happy to have. We feel he’s going to be a very talented pitcher. With regards to other players, we decided to pick the best guy for us.” – Dave Littlefield, Pirates GM

  45. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 7:14 pm

    Defense, like speed, never slumps. Except when it does.

  46. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:16 pm

    Whenever a lead off hitter gets stranded, can we call it getting Ichiro’d?

  47. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:16 pm

    Bocachica! I wondered what happened to him.

  48. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 7:17 pm

    And if they’re wiped out in a GIDP they got Vidro’d

  49. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:17 pm

    bocachicka… = mouth girl? How odd.

    Comon Batista… let’s hope you left the suck at home.

  50. msb on June 8th, 2007 7:18 pm

    unfortunately duped readers.

    ah, good to hear from an old asbsm pal again …

    re: Gillick, he has actually lived here for several years, it’s just the Magnolia house that is relatively new. I found it entertaining that the story has moved from ‘buying the team’ to a return to management:

    “I’m hearing it all over the place,” a baseball executive said yesterday. “I’m not hearing it from bozos. I’m hearing it from respectable people – people who would know. It’s all over baseball. From what I’m hearing, [Gillick] can go there right now and be the club president.”

  51. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:18 pm

    Would having your first pitch being hit out of the park be referred to as Weaver’ed?

  52. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:19 pm

    51- It would have to be back to back lead-off homeruns.

  53. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:19 pm

    I think if you give up more runs then IP you pulled a Weaver.

  54. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:19 pm

    “Sure, I’d listen if the Mariners called.” – Pat Gillick

  55. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:20 pm

    Terrmel Sledge looks like the character “Gummy” from “Fletch.”

  56. Gunga on June 8th, 2007 7:20 pm

    I love him as much as anybody, but for the time being, when someone makes a mistake I’m going to say he or she yuni’d.

    Also, the tag should now point to the story with a TinyURL.

  57. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:20 pm

    Can we get someone to disconnect Pat’s phone please!

  58. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 7:20 pm

    Ring ring?
    “Gillick here.”
    “We want some kind of reparations.”
    Click!

  59. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:21 pm

    I’m waiting for Neihaus to think Bocachica is still a Mariner.

  60. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:22 pm

    Holy crap… no hits, walks, and 2k’s already. Let’s hope he keeps it up.

  61. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:24 pm

    I hope Batista can keep up the no-hitter.

  62. Tak on June 8th, 2007 7:25 pm

    Looks like a good day to catch up in both the WC race and division race.

  63. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:25 pm

    59- It wouldn’t surprise me if Neihaus mistaked Willie for David Ortiz.

  64. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:26 pm

    The whole being above the Mendoza line must have not sounded good to Sexson.

  65. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:27 pm

    Sexson’s OPS+ is 84? Geez.

  66. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Yuni!

  67. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 7:29 pm

    That was an interesting slide by Sexson.

  68. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:29 pm

    Plunk.

    1-zip Mariners! Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuni!

  69. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Hitting streak guy!

  70. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Worst slide ever… nice job Sexson!

  71. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Okay, I’d sort of zoned, and didn’t realize Richie was on second, so I thought for a moment he’d scored from first, but it’s amazing enough that he made it in on a shallow fly ball!

    Although that was a pretty embarrassing ‘slide’. More like a bellyflop.

  72. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:30 pm

    67- It appears he was running so fast, he though he caught on fire and proceeded to stop/drop/roll.

  73. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 7:30 pm

    Wow that was a crappy bunt.

  74. Tak on June 8th, 2007 7:31 pm

    LAA vs. STL is starting to get ugly… sigh…

  75. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:31 pm

    You are my Yuni
    My only Yuni
    You keep on hitting
    When bats are cold
    You’ll never know, dude,
    How much we like you
    Please don’t take my Yuni away

  76. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:34 pm

    Ball 4 Bases loaded… oh wait, never mind.

  77. msb on June 8th, 2007 7:36 pm

    hmm. scrolling through the various reviews, interesting to see that the two negative reviews are both from guys who date back to the usenet days …

    ooh, now Schick Shadle’s treatment is being described as “10 enjoyable days”. cool.

  78. Ollie in Raleigh on June 8th, 2007 7:37 pm

    #49 chica means small when describing a feminine noun. It is short for Chiquito/Chiquita. But Chico, Chica is used to refer to kids in the masculine and feminine respectively.

    Actually why am I bothering? GO M’s!!!!!

  79. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:40 pm

    Is Pat O’Day still doing those ads?

  80. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:40 pm

    61- OMGZ You jinxed Batista! His no hitter break-up is all your fault!

    I kid, I kid. Good performace so far though from Batista.

  81. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:41 pm

    I am glad we brought up this Batista guy from Tacoma, that other one we had sucked.

  82. msb on June 8th, 2007 7:41 pm

    #79– yup. lord knows, at this point Pat may actually believe he had ’10 enjoyable dyas’ when he went through the program.

  83. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:42 pm

    Someone talk me out of getting a seat for the Wednesday Sox game in section 138.

  84. msb on June 8th, 2007 7:42 pm

    so in 3 years does Dillon Moyer become a Mariner courtesy pick?

  85. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:43 pm

    82 – Pat has always sounded drunk to me. Isn’t that place just your standard avoidance program?

  86. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:43 pm

    The Associated Press cracks me up sometimes.

    Here’s their text for a graphic ….

    By The Associated Press
    Players who have hit three or more home runs in a game this season:
    National League
    3 — Carlos Lee, Houston, April 13 at Philadelphia
    3 — Alfonso Soriano, Chicago, June 8 at Atlanta

  87. mike1997 on June 8th, 2007 7:43 pm

    Damn Angels are winning again… 8-4 top of 7th

  88. msb on June 8th, 2007 7:44 pm

    #85 — aversion therapy.

  89. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:45 pm

    88 – That’s where they somehow punish you or put bad tasting substances in the alcohol, right?

    Why not just make them drink Bud Dry?

  90. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 7:46 pm

    The best hitting Mariner pitcher I can remember (following up on the trivia question) was a guy that doesn’t look like a hitter.

    Moyer.

    No power at all (zero career homers), but he could get hits. I see he has 5 hits for Philly this year.

  91. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:47 pm

    Close ERA comparison between Crazy Weaver and Chunky Wells.

  92. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 7:48 pm

    We’ve had a couple threads that talked about this. I should just put the links together sometime for easy reference.

  93. terry on June 8th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Isn’t posting the link to the review by the obvious troll with an axe to grind kind of like airing coverage of the drinken slob who runs onto the field and shakes his beer belly all over the place while trying to dodge security?

  94. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Did you ever see Paul Abbott take batting practice? Dude hit monster shots in the seats pretty regularly.

  95. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 7:48 pm

    Man, I can’t wait to see that Weaver/Wells matchup, for all the wrong reasons.

    SWEET! Whatever it takes, Raul, whatever it takes.

  96. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Ibanez get’s a Vidro-esque base hit. Way to power that baby through.

    At least he’s on base anyways.

  97. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Ibanez get’s a Vidro-esque base hit. Way to power that baby through.

    At least he’s on base anyways.

  98. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:49 pm

    Ibanez get’s a Vidro-esque base hit. Way to power that baby through.

    At least he’s on base anyways.

  99. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Woah, don’t know how that happened… sorry ’bout that.

  100. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Oh, those hated Padres.

  101. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Way to get Vidro’d Raul!

  102. theraven on June 8th, 2007 7:50 pm

    Horrible attempt at a take-out slide.

  103. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Bocachica is going to Guillen the Mariners.

  104. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Bocachica’s interleague batting average is better than his his career BA.

  105. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 7:53 pm

    Livin’ La Vida Boca!

  106. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 7:54 pm

    Batista was up that whole AB, lets hope it doesn’t stay that way.

  107. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 7:59 pm

    WHY must ibanez always make it look so difficult.

  108. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 7:59 pm

    Every time they play these Panasonic commercials, I think “Man, Christian Slater… how is he supposed to sell anyone anything?”

  109. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Similar to Kevin Bacon selling Hanes? Never understood that one.

  110. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Bobblehead guy that lives in a tent. Still scary.

  111. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:01 pm

    Ever notice the facial resemblance between DMZ and Philippe Aumont?

  112. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:02 pm

    Lou Piniella has a Bacon number of 2? Wow.

  113. IMissBenDavis on June 8th, 2007 8:03 pm

    79 – yes.

  114. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:04 pm

    Mike Hargrove has a Bacon number of 3:

    Mike Hargrove was in Looking for Oscar (2000) with Ron Shelton
    Ron Shelton was in Welcome to Hollywood (2000) with Sandra Bullock
    Sandra Bullock was in Loverboy (2005) with Kevin Bacon

  115. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:05 pm

    I want a bacon burger.

  116. theraven on June 8th, 2007 8:05 pm

    Me too Thom, me too.

  117. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:05 pm

    What is Sir Francis Bacon’s Bacon Number?

  118. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 8:07 pm

    So here’s the problem with the DirecTV $50 commercial: the guy who’s doing the pitching is saying to each woman “the possibility of me making $50 off of you is worth more to me than the possibility we might be compatible and have a long-term relationship.”

    I don’t think anyone gets away with that.

  119. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:07 pm

    Lauren must be getting some tonight.

  120. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:08 pm

    Would Roger Bacon’s Bacon Number do?

  121. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:08 pm

    Why would anybody pay for home television service? Aren’t there better things to do with your life?

  122. pygmalion on June 8th, 2007 8:09 pm

    I wonder what Roger Bacon’s Francis Bacon number is?

  123. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:09 pm

    “Personal notes” on new M’s pitcher Rod Scurry Jr.:

    “Criminal justice major…born Feb. 1, 1986…son of Rod and Laura Scurry and Jim and Pat Gerling…likes to hunt, fish, and golf in his free time…sports hero is John McEnroe.”

  124. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:11 pm

    Padre fans in the first row behind home plate, holding a cell phone to ear with one hand, and waving energetically with the other hand.

    Look, Vern, I’m on TV! Ooh, Ooh!

  125. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:12 pm

    Wonder what’s gotten into Batista…

    Or does the Padres lineup just bat that poorly?

  126. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:14 pm

    Uh, maybe I’m just easily befuddled, but how does Rod Jr have four parents, three of which could be men?

    Batista’s really glad to be back in the NL West.

  127. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 8:15 pm

    The Padres have had stretches this year where they just could not buy a run. They’re bad.

  128. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:16 pm

    #126: There’s probably a bad drug joke to answer that.

  129. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 8:16 pm

    Uh, maybe I’m just easily befuddled, but how does Rod Jr have four parents, three of which could be men?

    Democrats in the White House. It’s the only explanation. Wait, 1986? Vermont?

  130. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 8:17 pm

    Hey, uh, you don’t have to steal second all the time if Vidro’s not batting #2. Not that you shouldn’t… I’m just saying.

  131. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:18 pm

    A base hit, is that too much to ask?

  132. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:18 pm

    Ichiro’s fear of Vidro has eclipsed conditioning and become brainwashing.

  133. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:18 pm

    There are a few teams in the NL that have scored fewer runs than that Padres. But those are bad teams.

  134. mike1997 on June 8th, 2007 8:19 pm

    LOL Ichiro with 7 SB against Padres

  135. pygmalion on June 8th, 2007 8:19 pm

    The Padres are SoCal. Will that be enough to draw Guillen’s ire?

  136. David* on June 8th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Hay Raul got a hit!

  137. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:21 pm

    Ibanez? Wow, clutch hitting. Thank you!

  138. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:22 pm

    That’s gotta be like, his 4th RBI. Maybe Richie can follow suit.

  139. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:22 pm

    Crap, Sexson.

  140. David* on June 8th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Woo 2-out hitting woo!

  141. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:23 pm

    When I said “crap”, I meant it in the good sense of the word.

  142. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:23 pm

    That was a nice hit!

    And Ibanez scored, even though it was uphill all the way to home.

  143. IMissBenDavis on June 8th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Go Ms!

  144. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:23 pm

    Richie! Way to break that slump.

    If Richie can start hitting, maybe there’s hope.

  145. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:24 pm

    Jeez, Raul ‘digging for home’ made me scream like a little girl.

    Maybe it was wishful thinking, but he sort of hippity-hopped into homeplate. Or was that just me?

  146. jefffrane on June 8th, 2007 8:24 pm

    Jo!!

  147. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:25 pm

    2 outs, so what?

  148. David* on June 8th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Sweet K-Joh! A couple more runs and the lead will be Ramirez-proof!

  149. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Go kenji!! Frick. 12 inches from being a home run. Double’s aren’t shabby either though.

  150. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:25 pm

    Johjima, en fuego!

  151. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:25 pm

    That took a funny hop off the fence, I couldn’t tell if it hit off of Cameron’s glove. Didn’t matter, Kenji got a double off it either way.

  152. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:27 pm

    There’s just something about the cliche, “Cameron gets on his horse!” that cracks me up. I’d pay money to see an outfielder really vault onto the back of a horse out there.

    Dave already used ‘can of corn’ today. Wonder how many well-worn terms we’ll go through?

  153. David* on June 8th, 2007 8:27 pm

    Oops I mean Batista-proof. But I’m not sure they’re two different people…

  154. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:32 pm

    Damn surfer boy. I hate him so.

    Has anyone commented on Hargrove shaving off his Evil!goatee? I’d thought it was the only thing bringing wins, but so far, so good. I can imagine his daughter told him it had to go during Grad festivities; it was repulsive and slightly ridiculous.

  155. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:33 pm

    Khalil’s prettier than I am.

  156. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Maybe Rick Rizz will shave off his goatee as well.

  157. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:34 pm

    Do they have a special section for people with cell phones to go behind home plate to wave? There was a guy standing up right behind home, and on the 3rd base side there are a couple of people still waving like crazy.

  158. jefffrane on June 8th, 2007 8:35 pm

    Batista!

  159. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:36 pm

    At least it didn’t get out of hand, I like this new Batista.

  160. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:36 pm

    So, if Grover can hardly manage a team with a DH, I don’t see any way that he can possibly wrap his head around the pitcher/pinch hit concept.

  161. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:37 pm

    Rizz >> He could save money, and glue it to his head.

    Will the Angels ever lose again? Ever? And how did St. Louis become their rivals? Both have red, and cardinals/angels have wings?

  162. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 8:38 pm

    148. Doubtful we will see Ramirez tonight.

  163. David* on June 8th, 2007 8:39 pm

    According to fangraphs Putz is #5 in WPA for relievers.

    A certain Atlanta Braves reliever is #3.

  164. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 8:39 pm

    AEEII! My Hammy Curse Thunderbolt hit the wrong player!

  165. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:40 pm

    ARG. Bunt pop-ups. Fundamental f-ups drive me crazy.

  166. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:41 pm

    He should just swing next time.

  167. Tak on June 8th, 2007 8:42 pm

    probably not your point, but WPA is probably one of the worse ways of measuring a player’s performance.

  168. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 8:42 pm

    When the M’s (briefly) led the league in team batting average, we were 10th in OPS. Now, coming into tonight, we are 5th. Maybe this team can hit after all. It is certainly refreshing to see these big innings we have put up tonight and against Baltimore (Wednesday the exception).

  169. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:43 pm

    Way to go there, Khalil Spicoli.

  170. pumpkinhead on June 8th, 2007 8:44 pm

    A non-vidro hit scores 2. Comon Guillen. Takin one for the team!

  171. msb on June 8th, 2007 8:44 pm

    Rod has two daddies?

    I can imagine his daughter told him it had to go during Grad festivities

    it was gone before then — according to Hargrove, he forgot to put the guard on the shaver, and took out a big hunk of the beard … then just shaved the whole thing off. word is he plans to bring it back now the graduation is over….

  172. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:46 pm

    Your Seattle Mariners cleanup hitter ladies and gentlemen…

  173. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Maybe Rod was adopted?

    Or maybe his mom remarried?

  174. jefffrane on June 8th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Chump Ibañez. Thanks a bunch, Raul.

  175. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:47 pm

    Little-known fact: Pat Gillick was born in Chico, Calif., the recreational drug capital of the United States.

  176. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 8:48 pm

    Does anyone else think Raul’s done as an everyday player, cause I really think he should be a DH or a platooned outfielder?

  177. msb on June 8th, 2007 8:50 pm

    son of Rod and Laura Scurry and Jim and Pat Gerling

    I think it is prob. a re-marriage– nice (and rare) to include both sets of parents, though.

  178. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 8:51 pm

    With last inning’s clutch hit (Raul had one too) Sesxon got back to .200.

  179. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:51 pm

    I think a call to Adam Jones while Raul has tendinitis sounds great.

  180. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:51 pm

    Who’s this Batista guy? And where’s he been?

  181. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 8:54 pm

    Young Batista’s going to be the ace of the staff in a couple of years…he’ll probably have a full shelf of Cy Young awards by the time he’s through.

  182. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 8:55 pm

    Remember, Aaron Sele shut out the Pads in a complete game two years ago … two months before being released.

  183. msb on June 8th, 2007 8:55 pm

    Boyfriend!

  184. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 8:55 pm

    Boy, Kenji could have easily had a couple of homers tonight.

  185. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 8:56 pm

    This would be a good time to pinch hit for Batista.

  186. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 8:58 pm

    A walk for Yuni! He’s getting more patient every game!

  187. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 8:58 pm

    He has only thrown 78 pitches and we have a 5-1 lead. No reason to pinch hit.

  188. theraven on June 8th, 2007 8:58 pm

    #185 Nah, our bullpen needs all the rest they can get. He’s been pitching well and has another inning or two left in him.

  189. jefffrane on June 8th, 2007 8:59 pm

    Bah. He was safe. Stupid umpire.

  190. Paul B on June 8th, 2007 9:00 pm

    Our bullpen has had a day off, and has a lot of guys in it.

  191. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:00 pm

    187. I didn’t realize he had thrown that few pitches. I was wrong.

  192. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:00 pm

    Regular hitters? That’s the way to run, like you really, really want to beat the throw.

    Obsessing on Rod Jr: If his mother remarried, it would just be Jim Gerling. I gotta think Pat is Jim’s wife, and the Gerlings raised him like their own. When your Daddy clunks over from an O.D., it doesn’t suggest a steady home life. Still, the Pat thing sort of leaves a door open…*flashing back to SNL*

  193. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:00 pm

    #190 You forget who’s pitching tomorrow. ;)

  194. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:02 pm

    Payback!

  195. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:02 pm

    That’s an advantage of having a 6’8″ first baseman.

  196. IMissBenDavis on June 8th, 2007 9:05 pm

    One thing I am thankful for is when I tune into the game on TV on Sunday, it will be Felix on the mound, not Weaver.

  197. Axtell on June 8th, 2007 9:05 pm

    Time to pull Batista? 2 really bad 4 ball walks.

  198. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Time to warm someone up at least…

  199. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:06 pm

    Batista’s getting outs and walking people in a very efficient manner.

  200. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Cruz can’t hit a breaking ball.

  201. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:07 pm

    Anyone want to make predictions on how Weaver’s days gonna be like tomorrow against the Padres, who if I’m not wrong are one of the teams that have issues with hitting.

  202. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:08 pm

    That was a strike!

  203. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:08 pm

    So do the Royals who scored 6 runs in 2/3 inning. Weaver can make anyone good.

  204. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:08 pm

    Maybe pinch hitting would have been good.

  205. Tak on June 8th, 2007 9:08 pm

    ugh…..

  206. IMissBenDavis on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Not good.

  207. Swungonandbelted on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Error? Yu-bet!

  208. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    E6. Again.

  209. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Oh geez… that one strike non-call comes back to haunt.

  210. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Ball 2 and 4 looked good.

  211. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Weaver tomorrow: 6 6 3 3 3 4, 99 pitches, 58 strikes, 41 balls, 9 groundballs, 9 flies.

  212. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    Or Maybe that was on Richie.

  213. msb on June 8th, 2007 9:09 pm

    oh, Yuni.

  214. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Horrible throw.

  215. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Sexson should have at least caught that, how do you come off the bag and have it 5 hole you?

  216. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:10 pm

    Maybe Yuni should be our DH?

  217. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:10 pm

    If this keeps up, Yuni WILL need to be replaced. There’s just been far too much of this.

  218. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:12 pm

    On pace for 40 errors.

  219. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:12 pm

    …Yuni…

  220. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:12 pm

    So I presented that argument about Crazy Carl v. Vidro to my father.

    Even when I pointed out that Everett’s Run Scored/RBI numbers were better (after I gave the original numbers, he says “WHAT ABOUT RUNS SCORED/RBI??!”)

    he said “Wow. Everett must not have been that bad then.”

  221. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Sigh…

  222. David* on June 8th, 2007 9:13 pm

    Dammit.

  223. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:14 pm

    Does anyone know how many unearned runs Yuni is responsible for this year? 4 already this game.

  224. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:15 pm

    …huh?…

  225. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:15 pm

    It happens. Sherrill still rules.

  226. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:15 pm

    Last shot of Hargrove in the dugout looks like he wishes he had that Evil!goatee back. At least he can distressed expression hide behind it.

  227. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:15 pm

    223 – 246,715.5

  228. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Sexson should take responsibility for one of those runs. Obviously a bad throw but how do you come off the bag and miss a catch that hits your glove?

  229. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:16 pm

    Agh. Stranded down here in SoCal, I go to the trouble of checking the score online (just installed my mom’s new DSL today, sparing me the indignity of dialing up to earthlink), only to see a nice 5-1 lead vanish. With two outs. $*(!*#$(!@#!

  230. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:17 pm

    Position player pitching for the Marlins

  231. DMZ on June 8th, 2007 9:17 pm

    Lauren! Stop it! Whatever you’re doing!

  232. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:17 pm

    I’m gonna throw a beatdown on Lauren’s boyfriend.

  233. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:18 pm

    I’m gonna fart in his pillow and give him pinkeye for a month.

  234. JohninDC on June 8th, 2007 9:18 pm

    tightest strike zone I’ve seen in awhile

  235. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Actually, Josh Wilson is pitching for the D-Rays.

  236. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Hey, Lopez is now hitting above the Ichiro line!

  237. David* on June 8th, 2007 9:21 pm

    Nice Raul.

  238. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:22 pm

    Payback for hitting Guillen.

  239. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:23 pm

    So the reason the M’s aren’t winning is become Lauren’s mom got DSL? Not only that, but her mom lives in CA? This seems rather suspicious indeed.

  240. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:23 pm

    Richie, prove your worth, drive in a run…

  241. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:24 pm

    DSL? OR DSLs?

  242. CSG on June 8th, 2007 9:24 pm

    I’m kind of rooting for Raul to end the season with a triple crown line that looks like a slugger from the dead ball era, something along the lines of .290/3 HR/104 RBI.

  243. David* on June 8th, 2007 9:25 pm

    241:

    ugh

  244. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:25 pm

    235: Right. He did a nice job , though.

  245. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:28 pm

    Good to see Morrow using more then the fastball.

  246. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:28 pm

    So Morrow is only going one inning? Great way to prepare for extra innings. That was Double Switch time.

  247. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:29 pm

    Josh Wilson has pitched a scoreless inning for Tampa Bay.

  248. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:29 pm

    Hey. 19-game hitting streak. Guy’s got a lot on his mind, uh, I guess, although I’d think your only real thought in such a situation would need to be “keep hitting.”

    I dunno what to say. I’m happy to either remove him as my unofficial boyfriend or make him official if that’s what’s required to fix the butterfingers.

  249. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Also, thanks to urbandictionary.com, I now have a reason to beat the crap out of bhsmarine. We best not be at the same feed, beeyatch. Yeeeeah.

  250. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:31 pm

    Now that little girl with the flippy hair is going to beat us, just watch.

    *pillow over head*

  251. msb on June 8th, 2007 9:32 pm

    ok, Rod & Laura Scurry were the parents of Rod jr. Maybe Jim & Pat are uncle & aunt? Godparents? Deeply influential role model coach & wife? Rod Jr was 6 when his dad died …

    “No one knows what prompted Scurry to have his final cocaine binge. But he and his wife had decided to separate not long before it happened. There also were reports of back-tax problems. In any event, Betty Scurry received the telephone call she dreaded most early in the morning of Oct. 29, 1992. It came from her grandson, Rodney. His dad was outside, wearing nothing but shorts, begging neighbors to help him fight off invisible snakes that he said were crawling on him and biting him.

    Sheriff’s deputies were called. When they tried to calm Scurry, he became violent. A scuffle followed. By the time he was handcuffed and his feet were bound, he was unconscious and had stopped breathing.

    Paramedics resuscitated Scurry, but he never regained consciousness. He died Nov. 5 of heart failure and a brain hemorrhage after life-support systems were removed.”

  252. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 9:32 pm

    I thought it was “bee-yotch.”

  253. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:33 pm

    I hate Khalil Greene.

  254. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:33 pm

    BAM ZING!

  255. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:34 pm

    Great call

  256. awolfgang on June 8th, 2007 9:35 pm

    I just got back from the game with my family, 3yr old’s first baseball game ever. Needless to say, when I saw Batista batting in the top of the 7th, and realized that Hargrove was going to continue to prove himself as an idiot, I told my wife that we could leave, since either Batista is going to blow up, or the bullpen is going to save the day. Well a block away from the stadium we heard an uproar, and being a life long M’s fan I knew instinctly that the Padres had tied the game. Got back to the hotel and sure enough I was right, wooo that was fun.

  257. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:35 pm

    Ha Lauren, I had to check Urban Dictionary as well. Never heard that term before, anyone else?

  258. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:36 pm

    …Purple Haze vodka…your the best…

  259. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:36 pm

    248. If he were your official boyfriend, I doubt that would fix the butterfingers.

  260. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:37 pm

    If msb can’t uncover the truth, no one can…

    Love how my reverse curse worked on Greene! It only works when it works, though.

  261. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:37 pm

    That was Beltre-esque.

  262. msb on June 8th, 2007 9:37 pm

    [furtive checking of urbandictionary.com] gasp! I’m offended for you, too, Lauren.

    Boyfriend!

  263. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:37 pm

    DSL’s in reference to lips…yes…just like Tig Ol’ Bitties…

  264. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:39 pm

    That was Batista-esque.

  265. DKCecil on June 8th, 2007 9:39 pm

    Facepalm

  266. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:39 pm

    OMG ARGH

  267. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:39 pm

    Beltre Bunting? Really?

  268. msb on June 8th, 2007 9:39 pm

    so, maybe they should have concentrated a bit more on bunts than on hitting it out during b.p.

    I hope Rod Jr has forgotten most of his dad’s bad years.

  269. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:40 pm

    How do you pop-up a ball 8 inches off the ground?

  270. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:40 pm

    If he gets a hit I take back the DSLs comment….

  271. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:40 pm

    YYYYYYYUUUUUUUNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!

  272. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:40 pm

    Hoffman must be 55 years old.

  273. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Even the commentators are tired of Beltre trying to bunt when he doesn’t know how to do it well. If he can’t hit because of his injury, why is he in here? I can’t believe I’d rather see Willie here, but at least, if he actually got the bunt down, there’s a chance he could beat it to first.

    And god, I hate Petco. Makes Safeco look like a bandbox.

  274. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:41 pm

    Almost atoned.

  275. daimajin on June 8th, 2007 9:42 pm

    My gameday for Kenji’s AB, pitch 3 – In play no out
    pitch 4 – swinging strike….
    ????

  276. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:42 pm

    Vidro double coming up.

  277. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:42 pm

    269 – with skill my friend, acquired by the months of hard expert training under the tutelage of the fabulous all knowing Grover.

  278. msb on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    gee, I can’t imagine why the Padres hitters hate Petco.

  279. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    Ooh! What happened there? Yay ejections!

  280. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    Somehow, I don’t think the home plate umpire is impartial.

  281. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    Thanks Umps! They must be on our side…

  282. JohninDC on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    wow carlos, good work

  283. DKCecil on June 8th, 2007 9:43 pm

    What, are you kidding me? That’s ridiculous.

  284. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:44 pm

    That is very strange, you never see something like that happen.

  285. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:45 pm

    Didn’t even have Ellison attempt to run? What the hell?

  286. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 9:45 pm

    This is not the time to save Putz for a save situation

  287. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 9:45 pm

    Whoever bribed the umps, thanks!

  288. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:46 pm

    ESPN.com is showing Batista had 5 runs 4 earned. Correct me if I’m wrong, but shouldn’t only 1 be earned?

  289. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:46 pm

    Errrrgh WHA HAPPEN?

  290. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:46 pm

    Are you on Gameday, Lauren? Do you really need to know what happened?

  291. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:47 pm

    Sean Green!?!

  292. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:48 pm

    #291 It’s our fault, we were talking about bacon earlier. Bacon=ham, Green eggs and ham. Pretty simple really.

  293. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:48 pm

    I’m on ESPN Gamecast, and as is usually the case when people can’t see or listen to the game, they do sort of wonder what happened when someone gets ejected and everyone on USSM makes cryptic comments.

  294. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 9:48 pm

    I guess Hargrove gave up…Sean Green…BEEEELLLLLTTTTRRREEEEE NNNNOOOOO!!!!!

  295. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:48 pm

    288- From what I can tell they called it a single and then a throwing error. So only the 2nd run on that play would be unearned.

  296. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Geez, our vaunted defense is falling apart.

  297. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Turbo can play shortstop, can’t he?

  298. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Oh lordy. Yuni again.

  299. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:49 pm

    Ok, I know Ichiro loves to steal fly balls from Ibanez, but is there anyway he can take over for the left side of our infield as well?

  300. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Crash Davis!

  301. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 9:50 pm

    Well that changes things, doesn’t it :)

    Ooooh he was safe.

  302. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:50 pm

    #295 Wow, how that could be a single is beyond me. He could’ve got an out at 2nd or 1st and he still had some time to throw.

    OUT!!! Finally a break.

  303. colm on June 8th, 2007 9:50 pm

    he looked safe. Yup, he still looks safe.

  304. DKCecil on June 8th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Jamie Burke continues to build his legacy.

  305. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 9:51 pm

    WOOOO!! BURKE!

  306. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Burke!!!

  307. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:51 pm

    Third base ump making up for the bias of the home plate ump.

  308. JohninDC on June 8th, 2007 9:52 pm

    wow burke pwns

  309. Axtell on June 8th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Just heard…this is the M’s first extra innings game this year?

  310. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 9:53 pm

    Wow, he was out after all.

  311. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 9:54 pm

    Ejection: Apparently, the homeplate ump had been warning Carlos Garcia, the 3rd base coach, about being outside his box. He claims not to have heard. I don’t know if suddenly he got tossed when he did it the third time, or what, but all of sudden he charged the plate, was screaming, ump’s running backwards and Hoffman had to go sit down, cause he’s old.

    We can only hope this means a M runner won’t be thrown out at home later with Garcia’s windmilling arm in the background.

  312. MedicineHat on June 8th, 2007 9:55 pm

    Actually, 3rd base ump making the CORRECT call, as proved by still frame reply.

  313. theraven on June 8th, 2007 9:58 pm

    14 hits and 3 walks and this is all we have to show for it? Days like this I really wish we had a legitamite home run hitter.

  314. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:58 pm

    I just noticed that opponenets are hitting .459 off Weaver. .459!

  315. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 9:59 pm

    Was that Hoffman in the stands with a beer?

  316. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 9:59 pm

    I really dislike these Padres announcers.

  317. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 9:59 pm

    How can YuBet make those and not get the easier ones?

  318. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:00 pm

    That’s the Yuni we want to see!

  319. theraven on June 8th, 2007 10:00 pm

    Can Yuni start doing that with runners on? Please?

  320. mr.smartypants on June 8th, 2007 10:01 pm

    Blowers just pointed out that Hoffman is even farther out of the box than Garcia was.

  321. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 10:01 pm

    Really? You’re going to let Green pitch to Adrian Gonzalez?

  322. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:01 pm

    317. The play in the 7th wasn’t an easy one.

  323. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:01 pm

    Time to change pitchers Grover.

  324. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 10:02 pm

    Earth to Hargrove: Green is not the guy you want here.

  325. mr.smartypants on June 8th, 2007 10:02 pm

    wow can’t believe they aren’t going to the pen

  326. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 10:03 pm

    Grover says fuck it…

  327. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 10:03 pm

    I don’t see how this can possibly work out.

  328. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 10:04 pm

    Well, give him his due. But I am about to have a heart attack.

  329. theraven on June 8th, 2007 10:04 pm

    Who’s that in the bullpen?

  330. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:06 pm

    This leaves Reitsma and Huber to relieve Weaver tomorrow. Should be a long game.

  331. IdahoInvader on June 8th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Putz stays on the bench, while at least the Pads can say they used theirs.

    Unbelievable

  332. DiamondDave on June 8th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Jeez, I go take my son to see Shrek 3 and a great ball game breaks out. Who’d a thunk.

    Walked in the door and practically the first play I saw was that throw by Burke. Un-B-Leeeev-able! This guy is no longer Crash Davis. He’s a legit backup man. THat was clutch!!!!

  333. IdahoInvader on June 8th, 2007 10:06 pm

    Their closer that is

  334. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:07 pm

    Whew!

  335. mr.smartypants on June 8th, 2007 10:07 pm

    whhhhhoooofff

  336. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Ok, I’ll admit it: I enjoy the double play twins commercial. Latent homoeroticism and random accordion playing do it for me, I guess.

  337. DiamondDave on June 8th, 2007 10:08 pm

    Once again, Grover proving he is a brillant strategist. What a master.

  338. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 10:09 pm

    That dancing girl was attractive.

  339. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:09 pm

    Wow, that woman was trashed. Or, at least I hope she was, for her own sake.

  340. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 10:09 pm

    332 – this game is not great if you were watching from the point the M’s imploded in the 8th and blew a four run lead.

  341. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    No kidding. Now your long guy can’t go a long time…For once I was rooting for Willie at 2nd and O’Flaherty in Lopez’s spot…it was necessary there.

  342. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    Rauuul! (You get two u’s back for that).

  343. David J. Corcoran I on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    IBANEZ!!!!!!!!!!!

  344. IdahoInvader on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    Is Raul allowed to do that, lol?

  345. zzyzx on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    Now THAT’S a FUNK BLAST!

  346. DiamondDave on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  347. huhwhat on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    Raul…….raaauuullll…..tears………

  348. lokiforever on June 8th, 2007 10:10 pm

    If course Putz is on the bench, this is not a save situation.

  349. G-Man on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    What a time to get the long-awaited 2nd dinger.

  350. DKCecil on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    Raul HR…off of a tough throwing RP…wh-what?

  351. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    WHAT THE F JUST HAPPENED?? Did he just need a lil USSM doubt?

  352. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    That is about the most unlikely way the M’s could have taken the lead. THat would have been about 157th on my list of ways the M’s could score a run.

  353. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    Cleanup batter!

  354. theraven on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    GONE!!!!!!!! FUNKY. Lauren, I think we’ve found you a new boyfriend now that you’ve dumped Yuni.

  355. juneau_fan on June 8th, 2007 10:11 pm

    Okay, Raul doesn’t have to hit another HR this year.

  356. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 10:12 pm

    HaHA! Me, in my mom’s computer room: “cmon Ibanez, let’s hit a homer here.”

    YES!

  357. mike1997 on June 8th, 2007 10:12 pm

    RAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!!!!!!

  358. msb on June 8th, 2007 10:12 pm

    dang, I missed Raul — I got a tad sidetracked by various photos of Trevor Hoffman running in the outfield before a game …

  359. Joe Bag o' Doughnuts on June 8th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Come on, Putz!

  360. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 10:14 pm

    Cla is ga

  361. Mike Snow on June 8th, 2007 10:16 pm

    So he goes to the opposite field, in Petco no less. Was it really all just the shoulder?

  362. Anna11 on June 8th, 2007 10:17 pm

    I literally jumped three feet in the air when Raul hit that home run.

    Now it’s JJ time.

  363. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Yuni, just throw the ball.

  364. Thom Jimsen on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    I AM BOCACHICA!!! ARE YOU THREATENING ME????

  365. MedicineHat on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    As a displaced Dodger fan living in/around Seattle I’m really wanting one more out. Saito just blew the save in LA.

  366. lokiforever on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Go figure, that was unpredictable. Why did Beltre look so mad or bummed?

  367. DiamondDave on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    sorry for all the uuuus and !!!s… I got a little carried away when Raul hits only his second home run of the year in our first extra inning game of the year. I thought I personally broke the site when I lost connection for 5 minutes… ;-)

    Wow am I glad I booked home to see the end of this game…

    Come on Putzy…. oooh, way to take on for the team there! One more!

  368. IMissBenDavis on June 8th, 2007 10:18 pm

    Come on, last out.

  369. TheMsfan on June 8th, 2007 10:19 pm

    did anyone else hear the publishers clearing house theme song when ibanez hit the homer tonight?

  370. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Cruz can’t hit a breaking pitch. Stop throwing the fast ball.

  371. darrylzero on June 8th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Now show me splitter…

  372. Anna11 on June 8th, 2007 10:20 pm

    JJ is the man.

  373. jeffinfremont on June 8th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Putz is The Undertaker. We should start referring to him as such.

    REST…IN…PEACE.

  374. hub on June 8th, 2007 10:20 pm

    Is Putz now a true ‘elite stopper’, or is he just hard-throwing ‘good’ reliever having an amazing couple-season run?

  375. DiamondDave on June 8th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Yee haw!!! Five games over!

  376. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:21 pm

    Not much velocity on JJ’s fast ball tonight.

  377. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 10:21 pm

    M’s win!!!

  378. bhsmarine on June 8th, 2007 10:22 pm

    Good win… Giants got bases juiced against the A’s with 1 out too!

  379. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:23 pm

    I’d take Putz over any other closer in the league…it’s a damn shame if he’s not an all-star this year.

  380. Lauren, token chick on June 8th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Yay.

  381. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Raul was 4 for 6 and raised his average to .290.

  382. msb on June 8th, 2007 10:23 pm

    Not much velocity on JJ’s fast ball tonight.

    hang around Trevor, and you might think you don’t need no stinking velocity.

  383. Axtell on June 8th, 2007 10:25 pm

    I have to admit I had a bad feeling with the multiple errors by Yuni and the Pads coming back to tie it up…but a great win nonetheless.

  384. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:26 pm

    16 hits for the M’s. I’m liking this.

  385. hub on June 8th, 2007 10:28 pm

    CSG Says: “I’d take Putz over any other closer in the league…it’s a damn shame if he’s not an all-star this year.”

    So lets pretend that tomorrow is a reliever-only draft. You have the first pick…Putz would be your #1 overall selection?

  386. lokiforever on June 8th, 2007 10:28 pm

    who would you rather have on the mound, Weaver, or Freddy, who gave up 6 to KC, and couldn’t get out of the 2nd inning.

  387. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:30 pm

    If Weaver sucks again tomorrow, I would be tempted to make him go nine innings and give the bullpen a rest.

  388. hub on June 8th, 2007 10:31 pm

    Whats the record for most runs given up in 1 start?

  389. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:31 pm

    Yep. I don’t think there’s another relief pitcher in the league who’s clearly better than Putz. There’s quite a few who are right there (Joe Nathan, Papelbon, Billy Wagner), but no one I’d definitely take before him.

  390. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:31 pm

    They just showed Aumont striking out a twelve year old.

  391. hub on June 8th, 2007 10:32 pm

    …or does Weaver already own that record?

  392. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:32 pm

    Wait, didn’t Weaver have a start against KC where he gave up 6 runs and couldn’t get out of the first inning?

  393. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:34 pm

    I left K-Rod out of that hastily prepared list. He should be there, even if I’m constantly afraid of his arm bursting into flames as he pitches.

  394. bmanuw on June 8th, 2007 10:35 pm

    Dont worry, the Pads will even it up tommorow against Mr. Automatic (Loss)

  395. bmanuw on June 8th, 2007 10:36 pm

    I guess the M’s will never get closer than 5 1/2 games

  396. colm on June 8th, 2007 10:36 pm

    Yeah! Run Weaver out there for 280 pitches so he can’t never pitch again this season! Or ever. Seems cruel, but it’s only fair really.

  397. Rick L on June 8th, 2007 10:38 pm

    The only hope for tomorrow is that it’s a National League team, and Weaver did better in the NL last year.

  398. theraven on June 8th, 2007 10:38 pm

    #396 Could we give that process a name? You know, when you just pitch someone until his arm falls off so you never have to see him again. I’d like to call it the Old Yeller.

  399. bmanuw on June 8th, 2007 10:38 pm

    Here is a crazy idea, throw out Morrow out there tommorow….No..that would make too much sense

  400. CSG on June 8th, 2007 10:40 pm

    I actually have a strange feeling that Weaver pitches ok tomorrow. It’s basically a perfect storm of poor hitting team, pitcher’s park, and regression to the mean.

  401. yofarbs on June 8th, 2007 10:49 pm

    In the Giants – A’s game, Randy Winn is playing 3B and Noah Lowry in RF. Weird NL ball.

  402. PositivePaul on June 8th, 2007 10:50 pm

    Uh, CSG,

    As much as Putz is kickin’ butt this year, Francisco Cordero is, like, that much better. Almost. Cordero’s ERA+BAA+WHIP combined is only 50 points below Putz’ BAA alone.

  403. PositivePaul on June 8th, 2007 10:51 pm

    Er. 50 points above Putz’ BAA…

  404. IdahoInvader on June 8th, 2007 10:56 pm

    How is Pedro Feliz CATCHING and Randy Winn playing THIRD for SF?

  405. Mike Snow on June 8th, 2007 10:58 pm

    From checking out the play-by-play, it would appear there was probably a collision at the plate that knocked the Giants’ catcher (who had come in as a pinch-hitter, so they were already on their backup). Feliz is thus their emergency catcher, and they had already used up the bench when the injury happened.

  406. CSG on June 8th, 2007 11:00 pm

    I realize that Cordero has been awesome this year, but he’s also very much been a small sample size monster this year. A .168 BABIP, 0.0% HR/FB rate, and 93.3% LB% is not sustainable.

  407. IdahoInvader on June 8th, 2007 11:02 pm

    405

    Thanks. That does make sense. I noticed Lowery finished the game as their right fielder and that Bonds even had a stolen base.

    Wacky stuff!

  408. theraven on June 8th, 2007 11:03 pm

    You guys realize that Brandon Morrow hasn’t allowed a run since April 20th?

  409. CSG on June 8th, 2007 11:04 pm

    Also, as good as Putz was last year, he actually outpitched his actual performance. A K/BB ratio of 8 with over 50% GB is absolutely dominant, and he’s pretty close to replicating that this season. Cordero’s not in the same class as Putz.

  410. msb on June 8th, 2007 11:05 pm

    per Drayer, AB had a meeting with Hargrove after the game– the belief is that the (failed) bunt was not called by the bench

  411. theraven on June 8th, 2007 11:06 pm

    By the way, Putz’s WHIP is actually lower than Cordero’s (0.61 compared to 0.59).

  412. CSG on June 8th, 2007 11:07 pm

    Good tidbit, msb.

    That bunt was so egregiously awful I figured Hargrove had to be behind it.

  413. CSG on June 8th, 2007 11:13 pm

    Morrow’s performance has been excellent thus far, I agree, but I don’t see him being able to sustain this level of dominance into the future. He’s walking almost 8 batters per nine, and he hasn’t given up a homer yet, despite being a strong flyball pitcher thus far.

  414. apunetid on June 8th, 2007 11:29 pm

    Hey, nobody’s mentioning that we beat our hated rivals!

  415. lemonverbena on June 8th, 2007 11:30 pm

    wow… fun game, but i’m hoarse from screaming for relief when Batista was still in with bases loaded. i mean, i’m not a major league manager, but neither is Grover Cleveland.

    skipping the Weaver BP festival tomorrow but back out there on Felix Sunday! woooohoooo

  416. CSG on June 8th, 2007 11:33 pm

    Hey, we did beat our fierce regional rivals!

    Batista’s a weird pitcher. He looked brilliant for most of tonight, then completely shit the bed. He’s done that for most of this season.

  417. phil333 on June 9th, 2007 6:04 am

    #416 – Let’s not forget how much Yuni’s error added to that. There were 2 outs in the 7th when Yuni committed his error. The runs came from there. I have no idea why Batista got 5ER last night, maybe I’m missing something, but it seems he shouldn’t have.

  418. theraven on June 9th, 2007 7:43 am

    #417 I couldn’t agree more. It appears they gave the hitter a single on Yuni’s error (and then a throwing error to Yuni that let the runners advance). I know the scorer’s at home love to credit their guys with singles, but that looked like a textbook error to me. Batista should’ve only had 1 ER on his line for last night, but now it’ll just look like he had a bad game.

  419. AuburnM on June 9th, 2007 8:41 am

    #418

    AND that ump was really squeezing the zone. I think Batista got robbed a couple of times that inning.

    Batista pitched fine again.

  420. msb on June 9th, 2007 8:48 am

    Baker notes that Tomo Ohka would be a cheap arm pick-up

    I see that Mesa has returned to the Phillies, to get back to his former job of racking up those no-decisions for Moyer.

  421. colm on June 9th, 2007 2:21 pm

    Yes, PositivePaul ERA, WHIP and BAA are all (to some degree) bogus stats that do not accurately predict future pitching performance and can’t be held to reflect past pitcher performance. Adding them up just gives us a larger useless number.

    But Cordero’s still pretty darn good. Might as well throw him into the mix.

  422. Ninja Jordan on June 9th, 2007 4:35 pm

    Agree on Ohka. I’d buy him, and also bring up Fierabend permanently; both of whom would replace Weaver and HoRam.

  423. theraven on June 9th, 2007 4:40 pm

    Anyone else sick of everyone glowing over how well Clemens pitched today? I’m sorry, but a guy who has a 4.50 ERA against the Pirates isn’t really worth $17 million. The Pirates average 4.13 runs per game, which means that Clemens actually was well below average against them.

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